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[Dierfire]

D2 FINAL VOTE COUNT

Hiraki (6): Joshz, Lil Uzi Vert, FrankJaeger, TwoFace, Gamma Emerald, xSoniaNevermindx

Aj The Epic (3): Nachomamma8, Aristophanes, Hiraki

No Vote (2): Aj The Epic, Vedith

[Dierfire]

D2 has ended.

Hiraki (Town Citizen)

was lynched.

N2 begins now. Players wishing to submit or change actions must do so before the deadline.
Any outstanding prods must be answered by PM. If replacements are necessary, the deadline will be extended.
There is no option to end N2 early.

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(expired on 2016-12-21 17:15:00)

[Dierfire]

N2 has ended.

FrankJaeger (Town Backup Bodyguard)

was found dead.

D3 begins now.

VOTE COUNT 3.00

No Vote (9): TwoFace, Vedith, Lil Uzi Vert, xSoniaNevermindx, Aj The Epic, Gamma Emerald, Joshz, Aristophanes, Nachomamma8

With 9 players living, 5 votes are required to lynch.

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(expired on 2016-12-31 18:30:00)

NOTES

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[Joshz]

Lynch aside, Frank dying there was optimal in my eyes. Cleared up a slot for me that I was unsure of.

No Vote (9): TwoFace, Vedith, Lil Uzi Vert, xSoniaNevermindx, Aj The Epic, Gamma Emerald, Joshz, Aristophanes, Nachomamma8

Luv Sonia Nacho Josh are Town. Twoface probably too (I DONT LIKE HOW HARD HE TUNNELLED ON HIRAKI BUT HWATEVER).

That leaves Vedith, Aj, Gamma, and Aristophanes. 2/4 of those are 90% the scum. Nacho, now is the time to post your towncase on Aristo zzzzzz

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Lynch aside, Frank dying there was optimal in my eyes. Cleared up a slot for me that I was unsure of.

No Vote (9): TwoFace, Vedith, Lil Uzi Vert, xSoniaNevermindx, Aj The Epic, Gamma Emerald, Joshz, Aristophanes, Nachomamma8

Luv Sonia Nacho Josh are Town. Twoface probably too (I DONT LIKE HOW HARD HE TUNNELLED ON HIRAKI BUT HWATEVER).

That leaves Vedith, Aj, Gamma, and Aristophanes. 2/4 of those are 90% the scum. Nacho, now is the time to post your towncase on Aristo zzzzzz

Why do you tr me/Twoface?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are you clearing Sonia
Look at fitz' push on me near the end of Day 1
I'm p much clear

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Why are you clearing Sonia
Look at fitz' push on me near the end of Day 1
I'm p much clear

ewwwwww

[xSoniaNevermindx]

VOTE: Gamma
I just looked at the wagons at the end of the day
you were no where near getting close to lynched.
So what makes you think you're clear.

[Aj The Epic]

VOTE: Sonia

Really it's disappointing, but you've been able to provide no decent answers and instead insisted on going for lynch bait.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

VOTE: Sonia

Really it's disappointing, but you've been able to provide no decent answers and instead insisted on going for lynch bait.

Decent answers to what I don't think I've been asked anything.
What makes gamma lynch bait to you I can read him pretty dam well

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Gamma come back and answer me friend
you better not be hiding on me :c

[Gamma Emerald]

I wasn't close to being lynched but fitz' push on me was BS. You are terrible at reading interactions if you think that was a bus.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Didn't read interactions just looked at the vote count.

[Aj The Epic]

Lazy excuse for a bad explanation.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Not an excuse
I looked at the vote count when he said he should be cleared for a push he didn't have that many votes on him so I don't think why he thinks he should be cleared
Regardless making a statement like "look at me scum pushed on me!" Is bad in almost any case.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

You still need to tell me why you think Gamma is lynch bait.

[Joshz]

Reread the later part of d1. And yes, I'm doing what everyone hates and putting myself in green because this is for my reads. Suck it up or make your own with me as black or w/e if you want to. Edited Sonia and AJ into first wagon because I hate having too many names sorry!

havingfitz (7):

Nachomamma8,

Gamma Emerald,

Joshz,

Lil Uzi Vert,

Aristophanes, Vedith,

MathBlade

Creeps20 (3): Aj The Epic,

Hiraki, FrankJaeger

MathBlade (2): xSoniaNevermindx, TwoFace
Gamma Emerald (1):

havingfitz

Hiraki (6):

Joshz, Lil Uzi Vert, FrankJaeger,

TwoFace, Gamma Emerald, xSoniaNevermindx
Aj The Epic (3):

Nachomamma8,

Aristophanes,

Hiraki

No Vote (2): Aj The Epic, Vedith


The two final vote counts. Interestingly, both Vedith and Aristophanes were on the scum lynch and not the town lynch, though us town did a great job of lynching town without scum influence (unless scum is twoface). Twoface and Sonia were on the town lynch and not the scum lynch but TwoFace was a big pusher of the scum lynch in the first place and the primary reason fitz was lynched at all so idk and Sonia didn't push the town lynch, just begrudgingly hammered. Aj was on neither lynch.




My current reads on everyone not green/red above:
TwoFace

Sonia
Gamma

Aristophanes

Aj
Vedith



Rereading day 1 and having the knowledge Hiraki was town TwoFace looked worse to me than the lock town I thought he was, but yall said nobody would SvS interact like that so I'll leave him. Sonia was the counterwagon and was good yesterday, defending Hiraki and all, though refusing to read is annoying. Gamma and Fitz probably wasnt SvS but it is a possibility. Gamma was early on the wagon though.

Then the scummier side. Aristophanes might be my number one scum read from just memory/gut: involving rereading and VCs, this read is dependant on Nacho still believing they're town too but voting with both townies and not lynching town while lynching scum is good. Aj and Vedith are PoE but I've sr'd Vedith for a really really long time, and Aj's entrance was all around bad.

HOWEVER: there is the clear issue that Hiraki thought Aj and Vedith were town. I wish he had fucking towncased Vedith but whatever. I tend to analyze dead townies reads and put a lot of stock into reads of players that are experienced, so him townreading both of them is giving me doubts. I am probably wrong somewhere and have to do some more thinking. Ngl so glad Frank was the death because I did not trust him to be bg at all and I was gonna keep questioning him. He was probably the 'ideal' nightkill for my reads if you can use ideal like that. If I were scum I'd have taken out Luv or even myself (Josh) but hey I can't see their chat.

[Aj The Epic]

You still need to tell me why you think Gamma is lynch bait.

HIRAKI was the lynch bait, that you decided to hammer. Not Gamma.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

You still need to tell me why you think Gamma is lynch bait.

HIRAKI was the lynch bait, that you decided to hammer. Not Gamma.

Hira was pretty scummy from the context I was given and he may have been lynch bait but in my eyes it was better to get him out of the game while we have a mislynch because he could've very well have been scum and if he was town no one could push him later on down the road in a more critical time I don't think it was bad to hammer him at all

[Joshz]

hm

as i think im gonna vote with gut for now

VOTE: aristophanes

[Aj The Epic]

"From the context I was given"? AKA the ENTIRETY OF THIS THREAD?

No, your words to me scream that you understood this was a mislynch.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

If you were so sure that he was lynchbait why didn't you start up a wagon why wait until after he's lynched to start coming into action like that's what I don't understand

Pedit: I was told he said he would vote scum and he didn't that's fishy and a dam good enough reason to lynch him imo I didn't know he was gonna be a ml

[xSoniaNevermindx]

I just think you're outright wrong because I am dumbfounded how you can find any of that scummy what so ever

[Aj The Epic]

I finished catching up literally a day and a half before you hammered? That might have a

slight

affect on me making a counterwagon.

Now, your reason is still garbage. You were told he would vote scum, and it's fishy he didn't? Pot, kettle. So is that a good reason to lynch you now?

[TwoFace]

Sometime after the holiday I'll sit down and try and figure things out. Kind of lost right now