Mini Normal 1854: Game Over

[Dierfire]

VOTE COUNT 2.10

Hiraki (5): Joshz, Lil Uzi Vert, FrankJaeger, TwoFace, Gamma Emerald
Aj The Epic (4): Nachomamma8, xSoniaNevermindx, Aristophanes, Hiraki

No Vote (2): Aj The Epic, Vedith

With 11 players living, 6 votes are required to lynch.

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(expired on 2016-12-20 16:30:00)

NOTES

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[Aj The Epic]

That doesn't address anything, Uzi. Disinterest isn't an option for conftown.

[Aristophanes]

Oh wait did Ari full claim?

Nope. Why would I?

[Hiraki]

I've been disinterested because this day should've been over with already. I hope Sonia follows through and we can move on.

But I swear guys! I'm not a tunneler! I have no grievances against the person who lead the BW on me yesterday!!! )))

Watch how Lil Uzi doesn't do anything tomorrow too. I'm sure being silent and watching the game makes things very productive ))))

[Joshz]

Frank, you use your bg tonight. Use your judgment. I know the two id bg for both of Hiraki's potential flips but obviously I'm not the backup bg. The point is do not save it.

[Joshz]

W8

Does backup bg even make sense?? That role seems awful and I've never even seen a game with it.

[Aristophanes]

W8

Does backup bg even make sense?? That role seems awful and I've never even seen a game with it.

We discussed this a while ago, and it both makes sense and has been seen before.

Plus, lynching a BG I'd bad form. He should absorb a kill at night after properly crumbling his target.

[Joshz]

I remember the discussion, I was there.

But 1 shot backup bg sounds completely garbage. No way there's a universal backup in a game where the prs are bg and masons, and the wiki doesn't even have an entry for backup bg thst i could find. The buff town gets from a 1 shot bg is barely worth noting because bg is already an eh role and think about the fact that nearly every person in the town block as well as others scum read frank and voted him up. I came to the conclusion separately from nacho personally and I was confident in my frank scumread. We backed off but I've thought about this a ton and i came to the conclusion 1 shot backup bg is a bad claim and Frank is probably scum.

Can you link a game where it's been seen before?

[Gamma Emerald]

Not 1 shot I think.

[TwoFace]

There's been a game with a backup protection role before. Do you honestly think scum would claim backup bg? A role that's not even common? If he's scum he's a ballsy MFer

[Aj The Epic]

More importantly, Frank dies tonight in any reasonably scenario. There's really no choice who he protects because scum simply cannot let Nacho live.

[Joshz]

well twoface, he had to claim something if he didnt wanna get lynched since he was l-1, and nobody is gonna lynch prot. i do honestly think scum would claim it, and 1 shot backup bg is weak enough that as scum he can just kill luv/myself/you tn because nacho is the obvious kill. he doesnt need an excuse, its 1 shot and nacho is the obvious target.

[Nachomamma8]

Except he didn't claim one-shot.

[Joshz]

oh

what

am i crazy or did someone say 1 shot at one point
nvm then im satisfied with hiraki lynch

[TwoFace]

yeah he didn't claim 1 shot so not sure where that came from

[FrankJaeger]

Btw im not going to hint at who im guarding. Scum may go somewhere else and try to set me up for a wifom city.

Hint-probably a mason. Ooo what am I gunna do scum? I feel so powerful

[FrankJaeger]

Im going to guard the towniest mason. Not really just saying that so scum doesnt even bother.
TF seems like a good option to guard.

[FrankJaeger]

Nacho I got u bro

[FrankJaeger]

If hiraki flips town i really gotta think though

[FrankJaeger]

If scum ive already made my decision

[Hiraki]

start thinking buddy

[Aj The Epic]

There's no need to worry about Frank because here is the end-all be-all:

If Nacho dies before Frank, Frank gets lynched.

I know I'm beating a dead horse but this is simply the only way that can play out. Scum having a RB is near impossible in this setup since BG is almost negative/neutral utility to the town as it really doesn't help them (they still lose someone).

What do we know about Gamma? In current situation (assuming no lies from Frank), Hiraki's wagon is almost 100% town. This seems nigh impossible to me because scum should've seen the writing on the wall yesterday that Hiraki was probably going to die. Them not being there makes no sense on either side.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Okay just woke up and seems like this is a bit stale so I'm just gonna

VOTE: Hiraki

[Aj The Epic]

Alright Sonia. Assume this is a mislynch, Frank dies tomorrow. Next course of action?

[Aj The Epic]

*Frank dies tonight (BG on nacho)