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Friendly reminder that Shannon didn't visit anyone last night according to LUV.
On the other hand, a lot of what raskolnikov said resonates with what I was thinking and/or brings to attention things I hadn't noticed. I don't think she's the *only* person who has those problems, though perhaps the only person who has all of them simultaneously. I know I still need to ISO people though
Rask, I take it you don't want to lynch either of the PR claims so far, right? Is that off reads or mechanics?-
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Cops don't have guns, do they? They can't shoot anyone at least.In post 1884, shannon wrote:
OK, more questions about this role thing - -In post 1399, JaeReed wrote:During the night Transcend was killed.
He was…
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Day 2 begins now!
If another PR dies, does Titus get their powers?
Transcend's death and use of the Bulletproof (if Titus is telling the truth and he actually used it) suggests a strongman (or ninja?). What are the chances that this was one shot?
Is Titus effectively a PR, if there's an active strongman? Like if she jailkept someone, would it stick?
With the gunsmith thing, given that it returns both mafia and cops as having guns, should we expect that we have a town cop?
Doesn't work if Titus and LUV are both scum is what jumps out at me immediately when I read this. Also if they're both town and Titus decides to use JK tonight then mafia knows they can kill Titus N3 and we'll never get a result from her Gunsmith shot.In post 1894, TTTT wrote:so no responses means we are doing this, right?
and lynching outside Titus/LUV/Drone means we all agree to kill shannon.
In post 1877, TTTT wrote:LUV has claimed 2-shot follower
Titus has claimed JOAT with the JK and GS abilities left
So LUV should agree to follow Titus and report what action she took
Titus will do whatever she wants and report the action and target to her neighbor (Drone)
day3 they all report out in this order:
LUV
Titus
Drone
if there discrepancies we have scum among them
problems with the plan:
scum knows who among them are town and so could possibly benefit (for ex. knowing town!LUV is targeting Titus)
It's possible scum will NK Titus or LUV if either is town (but maybe not given suspicion on both slots?)
why it might work:
scum!LUV has a 50% chance of guessing Titus' action
town!titus' action and target gets relayed to us even if she is NKed (unless drone is scum)
not sure about this
help me think through it
Not odd if Gerry is the partner. I'd probably be okay with shannon after reading your wall for the first time, but I'll have to examine your points and make sure they're legit considering the slot you filled.In post 1896, Raskolnikov wrote:The only thing that's actually kind of odd is why shannon herself didn't push gerryoat d1 as cw.-
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If we manage to lynch scum today though it means that there can't be 2 scum among those 3. Problem is, if there are 2 scum among those 3 we literally can't lynch scum today if we lynch outside of them. This train of thought seems circular and I don't think lynching outside of them today is optimal. We don't have to lynch from within them, it just doesn't make sense to me to eliminate them from our choices.
Sesq, Gerry, what're your takes on Raskol's case against shannon?-
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Any plan that depends on me living is a horrible plan.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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Only scum quickhammers like that you're next buddy
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This turned out to be giant. I'll spoiler most of it, please read the end bit if it's all you have time for. If you're voting me, you should at least take time to read the whole thing.
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In post 1903, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:If we manage to lynch scum today though it means that there can't be 2 scum among those 3. Problem is, if there are 2 scum among those 3 we literally can't lynch scum today if we lynch outside of them. This train of thought seems circular and I don't think lynching outside of them today is optimal. We don't have to lynch from within them, it just doesn't make sense to me to eliminate them from our choices.
Sesq, Gerry, what're your takes on Raskol's case against shannon?
If there are two scum among the three of us, then this is the Best Town Ever and deserves an award for efficiency. I think it's unlikely.
Options for the 'two of three are scum' theory, as accurately as I can see them:
Titus is town. LUV faked a result on me to try to get us both town read, and mucked it up royally. First by claiming at all when not under pressure, second by changing the claim when eventually pressured. He's going to have to fake a result again tonight, either on me (which doesn't make sense) or on someone else. Better hope he guesses their activity correctly.
I am town. LUV thinks I'm important enough to try to buddy by faking a result on me. Titus is fake claiming for town cred and is going to have to explain why she doesn't die tonight. Titus and LUV agreed on this strategy.
LUV is town. His result on me is genuine, and he really felt he might be lynched or NKed tonight, so he got it out early. I am scum but wasn't the one who made the kill. Titus made the kill. She's claimed to try to cover her ass, but going to have to explain if she lives tonight. She should have fake claimed something else and didn't have the foresight to do so.
Can you see how unrealistic these scenarios are?
My *personal* opinion is that there might be one, or 0, scum among the three of us, and we need to look at who has been slyly working to set up this whole 'group of three' thing. We have all been chasing our tails and trying to point the finger at the other guy, which I think is mistaken.
What happened to Drone? What happened to Gerry? Was anyone townreading Ironstove yesterday?
I don't have the answers but someone with more time than me can probably find them.-
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Shannon, what are your reads, what did you learn from wagoning me?
Ignoring me three times is a hanging offense. You're at 1.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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i think you're town but have bad reads. sorry for being rude, i'm rude sometimes. but really, dont know how you can think me and rb are teamed. and my vote on lil uzi is logical, to the point where he had to change his claim.In post 1872, Sesq wrote:The only reason you say this is because you didn't provide defense. admit your faults or expect to be frowned upon-
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Don't be melodramatic.In post 1909, Titus wrote:Shannon, what are your reads, what did you learn from wagoning me?
Ignoring me three times is a hanging offense. You're at 1.
I think you and LUV are both town. D7 town. SSBM town. Impoetic town. (The last two are my weakest two reads)
Scum within Gerry, Drone, TTTT, Rask.-
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Couldn't post. Snow. Good case though. This defense also looked really scummy, as if "if i was scum" was a replacement for "my strategy is". 1811 Enough for a vote. VOTE: shannonIn post 1903, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Sesq, Gerry, what're your takes on Raskol's case against shannon?-
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Why on these?In post 1918, shannon wrote:
Don't be melodramatic.In post 1909, Titus wrote:Shannon, what are your reads, what did you learn from wagoning me?
Ignoring me three times is a hanging offense. You're at 1.
I think you and LUV are both town. D7 town. SSBM town. Impoetic town. (The last two are my weakest two reads)
Scum within Gerry, Drone, TTTT, Rask.
What did you learn from wagoning me?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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Only me and Titus.In post 1915, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:btw is anyone else in your neighborhood? or just Titus and Drone?
By this point I would have outed it all.
VOTE: Sesq
I mostly agree with Shannon on the fact we're a little narrow minded and need to keep checking all other options.
Basically, I don't mind Shannon's FoS on me, it's not even shading.
Sesq vote worries me, that as an addition to her overall gameplay throughout the game.
Like, that's a lazy excuse to conveniently voting the easiest wagonable player. Unfortunately, I've been looking this, especially since I'm pretty certain you haven't really read Shannon's wall post.
Guys, keep track of D7.
Also ISO him, can you see what I see?For science. For the mind!-
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How convenient.In post 1921, Sesq wrote:Crap, she's in L-2 now. Should have forseen that. Unvoting if put into L-1For science. For the mind!
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