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Joshz · Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:09 am

It doesnt

Fitz/vedith does though

TwoFace · Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:13 am

Or I should say I'm trying to be a reasonable man. Watching people tunnel in others makes me want to stop.

That's why I asked others to look into fitz/hiraki for me to see if I have valid points or not. Nobody did though

Actually I want aristo to show his work. He's done very little explaining.

Aristo - case on why creeps/fitz makes sense as scum team. Factoring in day 1 votes on fitz and hiraki

TwoFace · Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:14 am

In post 1350, Joshz wrote:It doesnt

Fitz/vedith does though

I can that also.

Vedith · Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:41 am

In post 1350, Joshz wrote:It doesnt

Fitz/vedith does though

Oh yeah, run that one past me again.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:45 am

In post 1350, Joshz wrote:It doesnt

Fitz/vedith does though

Tbh this does sound like an interesting idea
Vedith's pushes today leave something to be desired
VOTE: Vedith

Joshz · Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:19 am

In post 1353, Vedith wrote:
In post 1350, Joshz wrote:It doesnt

Fitz/vedith does though
Oh yeah, run that one past me again.

I can't for reasons... Take that as you like but I can answer at a later date.
Le End

TwoFace · Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:23 am

In post 1355, Joshz wrote:I can't for reasons... Take that as you like but I can answer at a later date.
Le End

Vedith · Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:38 pm

In post 1355, Joshz wrote:I can't for reasons... Take that as you like but I can answer at a later date.
Le End

Difference is mine is because of site rules... Dumbass

Joshz · Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:42 pm

and because you're scum... dumbass

TwoFace · Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:48 pm

In post 1357, Vedith wrote:
In post 1355, Joshz wrote:I can't for reasons... Take that as you like but I can answer at a later date.
Le End
Difference is mine is because of site rules... Dumbass

Yeah sorry town read off meta in general is bad. From an ongoing is terrible

Vedith · Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:50 pm

In post 1358, Joshz wrote:and because you're scum... dumbass

Vedith · Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:51 pm

In post 1359, TwoFace wrote:Yeah sorry town read off meta in general is bad. From an ongoing is terrible

It's not what you're thinking, but I'm not talking about it any further from here.
Lynching Hiraki is stupid and the only case on him is you didn't like his posting or some shit.

Joshz · Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:53 pm

btw if it wasnt obvious im not actually voting you specifically for that, ive scum read you for a while and am only voting you because other people are starting to as well

Vedith · Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:57 pm

In post 1362, Joshz wrote:btw if it wasnt obvious im not actually voting you specifically for that, ive scum read you for a while and am only voting you because other people are starting to as well

One thing you need to learn about me, kiddo, I don't care about votes on me.
Also, needing to explaining is not needed, but feel free to.

Dierfire · Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:11 pm

VOTE COUNT 2.03

Hiraki (4): TwoFace, Joshz, Lil Uzi Vert, FrankJaeger
Creeps20 (3): Hiraki, Vedith, Aristophanes
FrankJaeger (1): Creeps20
Vedith (1): Gamma Emerald

No Vote (2): Aj The Epic, Nachomamma8

With 11 players living, 6 votes are required to lynch.

TIMER

(expired on 2016-12-20 16:30:00)

NOTES

Prodding Creeps20
Gamma Emerald V/LA until 16 December (normal activity/prod requirements will apply)

TwoFace · Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:38 pm

In post 1361, Vedith wrote:
In post 1359, TwoFace wrote:Yeah sorry town read off meta in general is bad. From an ongoing is terrible
It's not what you're thinking, but I'm not talking about it any further from here.
Lynching Hiraki is stupid and the only case on him is you didn't like his posting or some shit.

Gee how else do you find scum if by not examining their posts?

I'm still waiting for you to do what I asked.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:31 pm

Vedith is town I think. Tone up until the Creeps vote seals it for me, he just seems misguided a bit recently.

If we're lucky Creeps will get replaced and we'll have another active member of the town.

Aristophanes · Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:38 pm

In post 1366, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Vedith is town I think. Tone up until the Creeps vote seals it for me, he just seems misguided a bit recently.

If we're lucky Creeps will get replaced and we'll have another active member of the town.

This here be a fine post!

Vedith · Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:57 pm

In post 1365, TwoFace wrote:I'm still waiting for you to do what I asked

Like I'm waiting for you to do as I asked?
2 way Street.

Hiraki · Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:09 pm

OK GUYS I'M BACK - I'M READY TO KICK ASS AGAIN, THE ULT CHARGE IS BACK:

In post 1307, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay that response from Hiraki tbh was crap.

Great! I would love to hear what you disagreed about! Oh wait! I can't have that opportunity if you just shout something out with reasoning! Wooo! Aren't posts like these SUPER productive?????

In post 1309, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1308, Vedith wrote:VOTE: Creeps
Hiraki is town.
Not with posts like that he's not

OH! BUT I'M /SURE/ I CAN RESPOND TO THIS O-

Nope, can't do that either! Weeee!

In post 1313, FrankJaeger wrote:VCA is included in my reads bro

Included, or the sole basis? Again, have you read Day 1?

In post 1324, TwoFace wrote:you hate it when people call themselves town?

It creates a huge bias in your reads that not everyone else can follow because only you know that you're town.

In post 1329, TwoFace wrote:plus his posts today are very scummy

Great! Remember yesterday when TwoFace

literally

said that he just can't respond to my posts anymore? Haha! That was not irritating at all!

In post 1342, TwoFace wrote:and I think the VCA points to confirming creeps is probably town.

Because confirmed town are always correct, right???

In post 1342, TwoFace wrote:why not look into people I am scum reading?

You keep asking us if we think you're tunneling and THIS is the question that you pose to Vedith?

Really?

In post 1351, TwoFace wrote:He's done very little explaining.

(citation needed)

In post 1354, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tbh this does sound like an interesting idea
Vedith's pushes today leave something to be desired

What does this mean????

How do people's /pushes/ leave something to be desired? I don't even know how to put that in a more inquisitve way. It's like Gamma saw candy and said "Ooo! That one looks yummy right now!"

Can you guys really form solid reads and opinions???

In post 1362, Joshz wrote:ive scum read you for a while

In post 630, Joshz wrote:vedith is null himself but i sr'd twiszted so its a push forward from that.

In post 805, Joshz wrote:there is scum in vedith and scumdeers :*

In post 828, Joshz wrote:I don't particularly like mathblade (no offense meant I dislike most people I'm an asshole) but idt he's scum. Yknow who's scum? Vedith!

VOTE: vedith

In post 829, Joshz wrote:This is mostly for twiszted slot. Looking at twiszted content, it's disgustingly bad. Vedith has idled and not been particularly townie himself, so while his content is more of a null read twiszteds was enough to make him likely scum.

In post 875, Joshz wrote:It's not a fake read, you're scum. Stop diverting attention.

In post 922, Joshz wrote:i have a very, very strong scum read on twiszted, and vedith hasnt exactly been a super strong townie. i encourage you to read through twiszted's content itt, its awful.

In post 942, Joshz wrote:ive scrolled through the thread and isos a ton and i feel confident gut wise about vedith being scum, but i dont have a case atm that i can post so for now and i get im not being very convincing.

Now, hold on - this one is important:

In post 1161, Joshz wrote:changed my mind a bit on vedith but i still scum read twiszted pretty hard so he is only slightly town overall as a slot

In post 1161, Joshz wrote:townier side/null {gamma, vedith}

In post 1217, Joshz wrote:still dont think vedith/scumdeers/creeps are clear but poe wise theyre probably town.

BEEP BEEP

In post 1221, Joshz wrote:hiraki/gamma/frank most likely contains both scum, id still lynch vedith but apparently nobody agrees with that so

What happened between these two posts that made you switch your read from null/town to scum? Keep in mind that you had

four

scumreads at that time and Ved beats out all of them???? Huh???

In post 1290, Joshz wrote:yay for someone else scumreading vedith!

And this is the official scumread. I think you have some explaining to do.

In post 1362, Joshz wrote:because other people are starting to as well

OK, so here's what I want:

In almost every post that you call Vedith scum, you refer to TwisTed as being the BIGGEST source for this scumread - is there anything that happened between 1161 and 1221 that made you switch so quickly from Vedith's posting?

In post 1366, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:If we're lucky Creeps will get replaced and we'll have another active member of the town.

In post 363, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:As for Creeps, from my experience, he's like this and is going to most likely be a difficult read. We'll see what he brings to the table Day 2.

TwoFace · Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:29 pm

In post 1368, Vedith wrote:
In post 1365, TwoFace wrote:I'm still waiting for you to do what I asked
Like I'm waiting for you to do as I asked?
2 way Street.

Pretty sure I've responded to all your requests

TwoFace · Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:42 pm

About me: I'm a tortoise not a hare. That means don't rush me. If you say things about me that's not true I will get defensive about it. If I'm attacking you, arguing with me isn't going to work.
4. If people want me to stop tunneling they need to provide me with a better alternative with good reasoning.
5. I hate lazy/lurking players.

I'm still waiting for somebody to do the bolded.

Vedith · Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:50 pm

In post 1370, TwoFace wrote:Pretty sure I've responded to all your requests

Responding and doing it are 2 different things.

TwoFace · Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:53 pm

Btw I skimmed this interactions you wanted me to. They barely interacted so what the hell am I supposed to look at? Hiraki/fitz interactions were scummier imo. After I destroyed fitz hiraki tried to come to fitz' defense. Stalled with the defense and eventually posted something that was very weird. I remember thinking "this is what I was waiting for?"

And the fact you're still not factoring in that creeps was the easiest of all the day 1 wagons means he's probably town. I feel if you were town you'd see that already

TwoFace · Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:57 pm

In post 1372, Vedith wrote:
In post 1370, TwoFace wrote:Pretty sure I've responded to all your requests
Responding and doing it are 2 different things.

you're probably scum so I'm done with you.

Literally nothing points to fitz/creeps scum team yet you keep saying there is and refuse to explain it.

Everything points to a fitz/hiraki team and you disagree and refuse to explain it.

Pretty sure the "against site rules" thing is code for you're scum together

You can stop talking to me now. You refuse to explain after being asked over and over again. That's not townie play.