AhIn post 1171, Nachomamma8 wrote:in fact, in Family Mafia, the first three votes on Spicy were town. the three person wagon that formed on me that game was also all town.
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meta. his scum game looks like Frank's play here.In post 1173, Joshz wrote:nacho, can you explain why you consider Aristophanes lock town?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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FrankJaeger (2): Nachomamma8, Joshz
Creeps20 (1): Gamma Emerald
No Vote (8): TwoFace, Vedith, Lil Uzi Vert, FrankJaeger, Creeps20, Hiraki, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty, Aristophanes
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If you're looking for people who "voted Eric early", why not look at Deers?
He said that Eric was scum because Eric said "helps me and not my team" - I find that reason to generally be pretty semantic and saying that the line was setting up for "just hopping on BWs saying you have a reason" is a pretty bad stretch.In post 315, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty wrote:140 "helps me and not my team" Something like you are scum and you dont want to out any reason and just hop on the BWs saying you have a reason?
Deer isn't wrong that Eric's logic is bad, but saying that his bad logic makes him scummy is... iffy. I hate the "Mafias play with emotions, Townies play with facts and logics" line - he made up a hard rule to say that Eric having emotions is scummy and if that's not a scum play then I don't know what is.In post 315, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty wrote:161 That's a BS reason saying he is town because he is newbie. And Why wont Host do that? About "you will regret it" Mafias play with emotions, Townies play with facts and logics.
Deer didn't say why he thought it was scummy, just used the fact that it was terse as a reason to vote against him.In post 315, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty wrote:170 Again, He votes just saying "This is all i need".
I don't think that this is the thought process of someone legitimately trying to read Eric; I think it's the thought process of someone who is trying to push a lynch on lynchbait."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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and i know this isn't satisfactory, and will expand on why Aristo is town once I'm finished casing Deers.In post 1176, Nachomamma8 wrote:
meta. his scum game looks like Frank's play here.In post 1173, Joshz wrote:nacho, can you explain why you consider Aristophanes lock town?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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why are you still voting Creeps?In post 1175, Gamma Emerald wrote:
AhIn post 1171, Nachomamma8 wrote:in fact, in Family Mafia, the first three votes on Spicy were town. the three person wagon that formed on me that game was also all town."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Hang on.In post 1181, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because I left for a bit
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I'll look at Deers. I believe I aldo voted Eric, so it would be wise for you guys to take a look at me too.
This sounds like he is ruing too hard to be townie.
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ruing?In post 1182, Creeps20 wrote:
Hang on.In post 1181, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because I left for a bit
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I'll look at Deers. I believe I aldo voted Eric, so it would be wise for you guys to take a look at me too.
This sounds like he is ruing too hard to be townie.
Not enough for a vote yet but could be useful to note. Very useful to note.<Embrace The Void>
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that was clearly a typoIn post 1185, Gamma Emerald wrote:I do not like Deers' vote on Eric at all. He clearly states he doesn't see scum intent in Eric's posts. However, I'm not sure scum would be so direct in that statement."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nacho replaced Misa, one of the masons.In post 1187, FrankJaeger wrote:Doing some vca.
Nacho is prob town based on d2 posting.
Joshz vote looks bad here.
VCA should be revealing in anycase.<Embrace The Void>
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Welp maybe i should write that downIn post 1188, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Nacho replaced Misa, one of the masons.In post 1187, FrankJaeger wrote:Doing some vca.
Nacho is prob town based on d2 posting.
Joshz vote looks bad here.
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I need to look at how you voted yesterday.In post 1190, Joshz wrote:why dont u explain to me why my vote looks bad
1 thing is that half of your reads are scum.
You also seem to be buddying up to a mason.
Im the easiest vote right now, and your reasoning looks like "a mason did it so Im town too"
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Well idk joshz vote here is prob town...In post 1142, Dierfire wrote:D1 FINAL VOTE COUNT
havingfitz (7): Nachomamma8, Gamma Emerald, Joshz, Lil Uzi Vert, Aristophanes, Vedith, MathBlade
Creeps20 (3): ScumDeersAreVeryTasty, Hiraki, FrankJaeger
MathBlade (2): Creeps20, TwoFace
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Sorry for the lack of activity. Disinterest and life reared their ugly heads again but I'm going to start seriously playing this game now.
Fitz had me fooled for a little while to be honest when I finally got him to explain those gut reads. I was satisfied with the reasons he gave for those reads but I kept overlooking how much he's ignored those two slots.
I share the same stance on claimed PRs Day 1 as TF does so it would be very hypocritical for me to scum read for that him but, it was very odd there the end of Day 1 where he just adamantly refused to lynch Fitz after how hard he pushed him. I understand people have beliefs and all but it's a little concerning how easy TF was willing to give up that lynch. Might be scum who tried a last effort attempt to hop off of a buddy.
Not really feeling Josh at all. He hasn't done anything at all that makes me want to TR him and he's only brought the suspicions I had about that slot back and this time, they're a lot more intense. I'm not sensing effort at all in any of the scum reads he shares or the cases he presents. I also think he's playing up his play style a bit in order to justify how's he playing in order to coast.
I saw some talk about Gamma forcing me to claim and I want to state again that I don't think he should be SR for this. I had no choice to claim at the time and part of this is why I've been scum reading Hiraki.
Ari continues to filler with a bit of maifia theory and sheeping. Frank continues to prod dodge and not commit to fully catching up.
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In post 1195, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I share the same stance on claimed PRs Day 1 as TF does so it would be very hypocritical for me to scum read for that him but, it was very odd there the end of Day 1 where he just adamantly refused to lynch Fitz after how hard he pushed him. I understand people have beliefs and all but it's a little concerning how easy TF was willing to give up that lynch. Might be scum who tried a last effort attempt to hop off of a buddy.-
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Sometimes you don't agree with the other masonIn post 1197, Joshz wrote:Sorry if this is dumb but isn't the point of masons to do things ie discuss and iron out reads with someone you know you can trust? I'd have thought they'd come back with a joint reads post-
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Yeah I strongly disagree with his read on you Josh. A little bit on Ari as well.
Definitely agree with him on TF, I just threw that observation out there just because you'd be surprised and it's not out of the realm possibility technically. TF response though is typical TF and reads town. I liked Deer's content but I think he's going to get replaced soon so it'll probably go back to null for me.
If I had to give reads list:
Town: Creeps, Gamma, TF
Null: Deer, Vedith
Null Scum: Ari, Frank
Scum: Josh, Hiraki
Looking now I don't think are reads are that different where it should be an issue. Nice town block we have honestly if Gamma and TF are town.
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