Mini Normal 1861: Musical Mafia (TOWN WIN)

[MiniDeathStar]

I just don't see how MDS is still running this town.

Probably because I'm actually explaining stuff while you're sticking to "omg wtf" lines like this?

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omg wtf

[MiniDeathStar]

^Grey conf scum.

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omg wtf

[Flubbernugget]

You voted him during the RVS with no bloody evidence and you still credit yourself with "starting his wagon".

Like, it's not like I even care who started the wagon. It just boggles me why you keep bringing it up, as if you're trying to squeeze out some town credit in case he flips scum.

Is it because you *know* he is scum?

Yes, I was making the first accusations on him. You're accusing me of not scumhunting when I began voting him for the same reason you did later

Also, you blatantly lied. And it shows that you thought you would get away with it because you're AGAIN trying to handwave when I began to have an actual scumread on massive.

[Flubbernugget]

Massive, I would like your read on cloudkicker. I see your 94 as not reading them as town, yet your 95 votes for someone else for *reasons*

And my vote is staying on you.

look at how random my vote is everyone

LOOK AT IT

TBF, your push is a softball that could have easily been defended by pointing out how scum is more likely to be concerned about appearances than town.

It's not like you caught him with a smoking gun.

tbf nobody has a smoking gun on page 6

[MiniDeathStar]

Yes, I was making the first accusations on him. You're accusing me of not scumhunting when I began voting him for the same reason you did later

Also, you blatantly lied. And it shows that you thought you would get away with it because you're AGAIN trying to handwave when I began to have an actual scumread on massive.

Tbh you have a point. You *were* scumhunting, lackluster as it was. It's just, the fact all your posts look pretty much the same, and the fact you never actually gave reads or overarching analysis on anybody, makes it very difficult to see the actual scumhunting from you.

But yeah, your defence makes more sense now.

UnFOS: Flubbernugget

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Massive, I would like your read on cloudkicker. I see your 94 as not reading them as town, yet your 95 votes for someone else for *reasons*

And my vote is staying on you.

look at how random my vote is everyone

LOOK AT IT

TBF, your push is a softball that could have easily been defended by pointing out how scum is more likely to be concerned about appearances than town.

It's not like you caught him with a smoking gun.

tbf nobody has a smoking gun on page 6

Yeah but what you're glossing over is the fact that it could easily have been a distancing vote.

I'm not as forgiving as MDS.

[Secret Agent Jin]

Well its blatantly obvious to me who scum is, ill give you a hint, its flubber. He doesnt take much interest in the game until he feels he can strike at an opportune time and argue his way into getting a player lynched. He also, like Massive, doesnt really explain much. He also is just pointing fingers at MDS and pushing the points she is making aside. Its sort of like when you argue with your parents and they say "That doesnt matter, listen to me, i am the parent" he is just deflecting what she says with minimal effort.

[Secret Agent Jin]

I was typing when he posted his last few posts that defend himself a little more, it all looks very suspect to me still but not vote warranting.

[MiniDeathStar]

Well, I was accusing him of not scumhunting and he showed me evidence. I know that it could have been a distancing vote but it *could* have been scumhunting, too. I can't prove it either way until massive flips.

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Well, I was accusing him of not scumhunting and he showed me evidence. I know that it could have been a distancing vote but it *could* have been scumhunting, too. I can't prove it either way until massive flips.

What would massive's alignment tell you about Flubber?

[MiniDeathStar]

If massive is mafia, Flubber could be a partner. Otherwise, not sure. I don't think he looked like an easily mislynchable low-hanging fruit at that time.

[MiniDeathStar]

I also kind of need to see what effort Flub would put into sorting the rest of the village.

[Kairal]

Unfortunately I don't think a massive flip will tell us about flubber specifically. Flubber's vote early is not hard enough to be clear evidence he's town but also not quite soft enough to be sure he's scum. It really could go either way.
That said I don't think he's particularly scummy at the moment. Right now massive,io, shadow, Newman and IamI all take priority for me. Massive, Io and Shadow are quite scummy whilst I have far less of a handle on Newman and IamI then I'd like.

Ideally I'd like to go into day 2 having some idea where everyone stands on the person being lynched.

In other words if you haven't provided a read on massive I'd really like to see one before we proceed to lynching him.

[Kairal]

Hmm actually I disagree (with my own post). Thinking about it more Flubber had a lot of chances to move that RVS vote. If massive is mafia I would be more inclined to read Flubber as town. Not conclusively or anything but it'd buy him a townlean at least.

[MiniDeathStar]

Kairal, remember Börk Börk.

[Kairal]

Thus town lean and not town conf :p

[MiniDeathStar]

The reason why I'm iffy on it is because Flub could have quoted a number of other posts as evidence for his scumhunting, but he was specifically anchored on that *one* post and brought it up several times. It kind of looks like he wants bussing to pay off, if he's indeed bussing.

[Kairal]

Besides Bork's ruthless bussing actually lost her the game. If Flubber was doing the same thing a) He'd be going at massive a lot harder and b) he'd lead us to more scum tomorrow. That game is actually a very clear demonstration to me that scum cannot win by playing like town the whole game. At some point they need to actually be doing things in the day phase that favour scum (i.e directing suspicion towards town and away from scum). Otherwise they run the risk of being found mechanically.

[Kairal]

The reason why I'm iffy on it is because Flub could have quoted a number of other posts as evidence for his scumhunting, but he was specifically anchored on that *one* post and brought it up several times. It kind of looks like he wants bussing to pay off, if he's indeed bussing.

It's possible. In another town I'd probably be very worried about it. However I have literally 3 people who are scummier and 2 who are totally inactive. That puts flubber way down at number 6 personally and therefore I just can't see my way towards lynching or voting him day 1. We'll see how he looks by the end of Day 2 I guess

[MiniDeathStar]

Yeah, you're right, I'm definitely not hanging Flub-nub today... as my UnFOS should have shown.

[MiniDeathStar]

Wait, did I say hanging? I totally meant voting off the island.

[Kairal]

Kids are watching this Mini! We can't have those kind of flubs. *Turns to Camera* Anyone who gets the highest votes is just going home kids, so you don't you worry!

[Kairal]

Anyway seems like we're generally in agreement then. Oh except you seem pretty sure that Cloud/Shadow is town. I am definitely not :p