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[Dierfire]

VOTE COUNT 1.19

Creeps20 (6): ScumDeersAreVeryTasty, Hiraki, Aristophanes, MathBlade, FrankJaeger, Gamma Emerald
Hiraki (2): Lil Uzi Vert, Nachomamma8
MathBlade (2): Creeps20, TwoFace
havingfitz (1): Vedith
Vedith (1): Joshz
Gamma Emerald (1): havingfitz

No Vote (0):

With 13 players living, 7 votes are required to lynch.

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(expired on 2016-12-07 16:30:00)

NOTES

Gamma Emerald V/LA until 16 December (normal activity/prod requirements will apply)
Aristophanes V/LA until 6 December
ScumDeersAreVeryTasty V/LA until 9 December

[Joshz]

I thought I posted regarding mathblade but apparently I didn't. Huh.

There's someone in the game called nacho mama?????

[Gamma Emerald]

I thought I posted regarding mathblade but apparently I didn't. Huh.

There's someone in the game called nacho mama?????

Yes
He's good as town ***I guess?***

[havingfitz]

This feels like playing into popular opinion but at least you have the balls to vote me.

TwoFace wasn't gaining any momentum and you had no votes...how is that playing to anything other than switching to a different scumread?

Eric's conftown buddy.

1)...the list I referred to was my Post 349 players assessment. I had Eric as a scum lean. I started backing off that shortly after josh replaced in.

2) How is it Gamma that you consider Eric conftown?

Look at his list of 4 scum... "Only scum vote me" attitude.

Are you even trying? The only person I list as a suspect that had even looked cross-eyed in my direction was Ari.. So not sure wtf you are talking about with the " 'Only scum vote me' attitude" accusation. Unless you are talking about my most recent list. Which as you can see from my first list...half of whom I suspected prior to them casting votes on me.

I also pointed out that he leaves out hiraki/tvd for some reason. He held those 2 as strong town reads based off "gut" and he refused to explain his reads on them until later when masons asked him.

Errrr.....the "some reason" has been stated several times. I didn't do reads on LUV and Misa either...did you have a problem with that? And I never called Hiraki or TVD "strong town reads". I said "Leaning town" and "~ Town"...which is the same as leaning. And their slots are still town reads for me and subject to change based on game events. As is my read on everyone.

His logic was flawed to begin with. The fact he didn't use it equally is actually what makes him suspicious

You are referring to my scum reads with hindsight of voting for masons. Applying the suspicion equally to everyone would cancel it out. As explained several times but outside of your comprehension level or best interests...the voting on masons was only a factor I considered amongst several for each of my scum reads. Everyone that suspected or voted the masons is not scum...but that doesn't mean it was a pro-town thing to do. If I took out any mention of voting or suspecting masons from my scum reads in Post 349 I'd still come out suspecting the same people for the other reasons stated.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lots of people were expressing suspicion of me.
Eric's conftown because he's new enough that he can't make up the "newbies aren't scum" line.

[TwoFace]

Errrr.....the "some reason" has been stated several times. I didn't do reads on LUV and Misa either...did you have a problem with that? And I never called Hiraki or TVD "strong town reads". I said "Leaning town" and "~ Town"...which is the same as leaning. And their slots are still town reads for me and subject to change based on game events. As is my read on everyone.

the "some reasons" were gut, that is what you said until you were asked to go back and justify them,

Actually yes I have issues with you leaving them out, but they are claimed masons and most likely legit so it wasn't really worth arguing about

you don't have to call then strong town reads for them to actually be that way for you. your actions speak way louder than your words. the fact that you specifcally left them out of your initial reads list and held on to these for the duration of the game and openly refused to justify them until a claimed mason pushed you to, implies to me that you are protecting these 2 people for some reason. I already made this point earlier, your excluding them from your suspicion list based off "gut" reads from way back on page 8, really only makes sense if you were all masons together, and since you obviously aren't I don't see how you can protect 2 people who basically did what others did.

use the attacking masons equally or don't use it at all. clearly you aren't using it equally and that is suspicious to me.

It's also suspicious that you are even using that as a scumtell when it is non ai, but I have already explained that also.

[TwoFace]

Catching up more deer is looking town.
VOTE: creep

Care to show your work? You don't post much so I'd really love to see some explaining.

I'd also like your other scum reads with a summary of why

[MathBlade]

Will be home in a few hours and catch up then.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[MathBlade]

Not sure I like where any of this day is going it all feels Town v town. Going to just say screw it all and vote with gut (and the reasons before).

[Hiraki]

VOTE: Creeps
L-1

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i just want to make it very clear that either gamma is really bad or scum

The prior votecount had /5/ voting (including gamma but it's pretty obvious that he was unaware of that due to the following posts)

FrankJaeger votes in 840, the actual L-1 and then Gamma votes in 841 as if that was actually L-1

Gamma - please, please, PLEASE be a bit more careful with your votes if you're town. If you're scum, which I think you are, that was not a smooth move as you may think it was.

FYI it is now L-2, i can hop on Gamma or Creeps at this point - mathblade also loses a town point for shying out at the last minute

Catching up more deer is looking town.
VOTE: creep

Care to show your work? You don't post much so I'd really love to see some explaining.

I'd also like your other scum reads with a summary of why

we really don't agree on much (i.e. anything) but i think we can finally agree that a force replacement is almost sorely needed at this point (and yes, i understand how frustrating this is mod, i am sorry for agreeing)

a vote is not a content based post

[MathBlade]

Good thing I don't care about town points. Pretty sure it won't matter what you score you have for me now anyway. Eventually I will be 3.14259 always and for the end of time.

And yeah I tend to agree on the FrankJaeger bit he needs to post content.

[Gamma Emerald]

Not sure I like where any of this day is going it all feels Town v town. Going to just say screw it all and vote with gut (and the reasons before).

Didn't you say Creeps was scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Creeps
L-1

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i just want to make it very clear that either gamma is really bad or scum

The prior votecount had /5/ voting (including gamma but it's pretty obvious that he was unaware of that due to the following posts)

FrankJaeger votes in 840, the actual L-1 and then Gamma votes in 841 as if that was actually L-1

Gamma - please, please, PLEASE be a bit more careful with your votes if you're town. If you're scum, which I think you are, that was not a smooth move as you may think it was.

FYI it is now L-2, i can hop on Gamma or Creeps at this point - mathblade also loses a town point for shying out at the last minute

Catching up more deer is looking town.
VOTE: creep

Care to show your work? You don't post much so I'd really love to see some explaining.

I'd also like your other scum reads with a summary of why

we really don't agree on much (i.e. anything) but i think we can finally agree that a force replacement is almost sorely needed at this point (and yes, i understand how frustrating this is mod, i am sorry for agreeing)

a vote is not a content based post

I switched off to vote fitz between the VC and Frank's vote

[MathBlade]

Not sure I like where any of this day is going it all feels Town v town. Going to just say screw it all and vote with gut (and the reasons before).

Didn't you say Creeps was scum?

I did.
I also promised to reread. Which I did.
That reread left things confusing as hell except for you being scum.
So I switched my vote.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay then, MathBlade seems determined to tunnel me.

[Joshz]

tunnel vedith instead!

[Nachomamma8]

Tomorrow is going to be a busy day, but today was worse (and over!). I realize that deadline is coming quicker than I'd like it to and thus I'll do my best to produce something significant when I get home tomorrow.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Did a quick skim and ISO, my vote is still where it needs to be. Willing to compromise on Ari.

Why!?

Missed this. A lot of your posts feel fake and all of you're votes are just really bad or blind sheeping.

[Hiraki]

VOTE: Creeps
L-1

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i just want to make it very clear that either gamma is really bad or scum

The prior votecount had /5/ voting (including gamma but it's pretty obvious that he was unaware of that due to the following posts)

FrankJaeger votes in 840, the actual L-1 and then Gamma votes in 841 as if that was actually L-1

Gamma - please, please, PLEASE be a bit more careful with your votes if you're town. If you're scum, which I think you are, that was not a smooth move as you may think it was.

FYI it is now L-2, i can hop on Gamma or Creeps at this point - mathblade also loses a town point for shying out at the last minute

Catching up more deer is looking town.
VOTE: creep

Care to show your work? You don't post much so I'd really love to see some explaining.

I'd also like your other scum reads with a summary of why

we really don't agree on much (i.e. anything) but i think we can finally agree that a force replacement is almost sorely needed at this point (and yes, i understand how frustrating this is mod, i am sorry for agreeing)

a vote is not a content based post

I switched off to vote fitz between the VC and Frank's vote

my b - dunno how i missed that, you're completely correct

Did a quick skim and ISO, my vote is still where it needs to be. Willing to compromise on Ari.

Why!?

Missed this. A lot of your posts feel fake and all of you're votes are just really bad or blind sheeping.

hello pot

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hello scum!

[Vedith]

Okay then, MathBlade seems determined to tunnel me.

Will be interesting to see if Fritz changes he vote on you if you get more votes.

VOTE: Gamma

tunnel vedith instead!

Stop trying to coast the game with a fake read.
Tell me your thoughts on Fritz, Math, Ari and Gamma.

[TwoFace]

this game...

[MathBlade]

Tomorrow is going to be a busy day, but today was worse (and over!). I realize that deadline is coming quicker than I'd like it to and thus I'll do my best to produce something significant when I get home tomorrow.

Looking forward to it.

[Dierfire]

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