Mini 1860 - Game Over!

[keyenpeydee]

VOTE: Gamma

Your avi change is unacceptable. Lol. Btw, Call me Keyen.

[keyenpeydee]

No Lol I like it

[keyenpeydee]

Lannister...

Is that from GoT? Started watching it few weeks ago...

[keyenpeydee]

Wuz with dis random wagon lol

[keyenpeydee]

@Gear, last time I checked, I got no private topics in this game. Oh yeah, nice to play again with ya.

[keyenpeydee]

I'm on L-3?

[keyenpeydee]

Yyyyyyyyyyyy

[keyenpeydee]

Yyyyyyyyyyyy

The red letters in your role pm.

No. You looked at your role pm.

VOTE: Gear

[keyenpeydee]

Yes. Maybe.

[keyenpeydee]

Duh

[keyenpeydee]

Are we out of RVS?

[keyenpeydee]

Are we out of RVS?

Why does it matter?

Just asking

[keyenpeydee]

Yyyyyyyyyyyy

The red letters in your role pm.

No. You looked at your role pm.

VOTE: Gear

Do you think I'm scum?

Yes. Maybe.

So what does this mean?

[keyenpeydee]

Lol, Gear, Lol.

[keyenpeydee]

@Lannister

Stop spoiling. *cries*

[keyenpeydee]

Also: meta sucks. It's lazy and bad play without a clear substantial pattern over many games, and even then, any half decent player can switch things up regardless of alignment knowing so many people on these forums think meta is useful. Unless they're a robot, then anyone can easily change their meta every game.

I see people use meta constantly in this forum and ice never understood why.

Perhaps they say it could be useful and might base it for suspecting people. Although it sucks. A player can still change its play style.

[keyenpeydee]

Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat

[keyenpeydee]

I actually think keyen could be scum here

[keyenpeydee]

Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat

If you read someone saying you were scummy, how do you not know who said it?

What did you hope to accomplish with that question?

It looks like forced to me. I mean it's not like it's been 20 pages, it's been 6. He could have asked directly, but instead it looked like he was trying to avoid direct confrontation with someone

I'm on my mobile at that time. Your argument on me is invalid.

[keyenpeydee]

@Everyone, I'm gonna be busy this time. I'll catch up tomorrow and perhaps, read the game again so I could give my thoughts.

[keyenpeydee]

I'm on my mobile at that time. Your argument on me is invalid.

seriously?

Of course you can't confirm to yourself whether I'm telling the truth or not. But I'm telling the truth. I'm really busy right now and posting on mobile. It's my Grandpa's bday so I'm with my fam.

[keyenpeydee]

2F, your reads are as shit as ever. I remember you being so aggressive and ruining town.

[keyenpeydee]

lol yeah fine lynch me. go ahead.

[keyenpeydee]

2F, your reads are as shit as ever.

remind me again. what r YOU'RE reads?

Didn't I tell you that I'll be posting my reads when I have the time? My goodness.

[keyenpeydee]

Spoiler: Quotes

Note that I'm quoting this as a new link so I just copied and paste it. Quotes are being randomized.

Hmm. I didn't have it as a scum read at all really against Lil Uzi. Looked inconsequential, but I didn't like Rask's shut down followed by calling the game 'newbie' as an aside. It seems Rask is trying to avoid conversation here, and regardless if the question was about an older post (this game hasn't even been active long enough for that time lapse excuse), what exactly was wrong with the question to shut it down and claim 'this is so newbie' after? Rask said it was a joke, and then called it ridiculous for others to not take it that way.

I find all that to be far too defensive for little reason. Aside from defensive, it has not-so-subtle barbs littering the whole post sequence. Elitism/ego at work, or scum shutting down anything before it starts? If Rask is such a light hearted player who jokes oh so much, then why am I reading it differently than supposedly intended? Maybe the humor is forced? Otherwise, it may just be bad.

Your thoughts Rask?

Accurate.

Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat

You sound awkward and come off pretty self-conscious, in particular you play it cool in your reaction and pretend like you aren't nervous when it feels like the complete opposite.

You have any thoughts on the game so far?

My thoughts on the game are being unrealistic. Everybody seems normal to me although I find Gear, 2F and JarJar sketchy. Oh yeah post 154 is not a good response but what I agree with.

Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat

If you read someone saying you were scummy, how do you not know who said it?

What did you hope to accomplish with that question?

It looks like forced to me. I mean it's not like it's been 20 pages, it's been 6. He could have asked directly, but instead it looked like he was trying to avoid direct confrontation with someone

It's not. Look, I woke up at that time, trying to read the unread posts. Just finished it and too lazy to where I read that. But see, I've quoted it. Is there still a problem with that? And if I'm avoiding confrontation with someone, then I shouldn't be playing mafia after all.

I've played with Keyen before, I was scum, and had a front row seat to him OMGUSing everyone who suspected him (among other things, but that's what's relevant here). I saw that from him here, and it's good enough for me for now. Now, I am voting someone new.

But he hasn't omgused everyone voting him.

You expecting me to do that?

Yyyyyyyyyyyy

The red letters in your role pm.

No. You looked at your role pm.

VOTE: Gear

Do you think I'm scum?

Yes. Maybe.

Non sense. Do you expect me to say your town when you've actually did is to act, not scummy, but not that townish?

I think Keyen is town. He seems pretty genuine right now. I also concur with JJD in that Gear's reasoning was pretty garbage, but I don't think garbage reasoning is a scum-tell.

I think you're scum because I read you as like my scum partner on that newbie game.

I actually think keyen could be scum here

agree

Why?

.
Keyen - why so concerned about whether or not we're in RVS?

So I know if I'll post another shit posts.

All in All here's my reads:

Town:
Lannister

NullTown or just unsure reads:
All that isn't mentioned.

Leaning Town:
Gamma
Vijarada
Ssbm

NullScum:
Dave
TwoFace
Rasko

Leaning Scum:
Gear
JarJar

[keyenpeydee]

That quote on Vijarada is not serious btw.

[keyenpeydee]

But I think Keyenpeydee needs to be treated with kid gloves.

Shut up. And what's this post's connectivity on you trying to make me look scum?

[keyenpeydee]

JarJar, I still don't get why you're scum reading me. Mind to give reasons?

[keyenpeydee]

That quote on Vijarada is not serious btw.

huh what was that post about then?

It's just much more like saying that he's scum because it's what he's doing to all players when we're scum together.

And are you dodging my question?

[keyenpeydee]

yeah key is a good lynch. I get people don't want to rush things but sometimes rushing isn't so bad. Just had a game end where we lynched someone quickly and it worked in town's favor because he was scum and it helped the PRs find the other scums

Opportunistic

[keyenpeydee]

I get it all now. I'm going to bed and I would explain a lot more tomorrow.

[keyenpeydee]

That quote on Vijarada is not serious btw.

huh what was that post about then?

It's just much more like saying that he's scum because it's what he's doing to all players when we're scum together.

Ok so why isn't it serious?

He hasn't posted any read-worthy posts, I think?

[keyenpeydee]

What Rasko just said on me is real [143]. If you think I'm awkward and self conscious, then let's put it this way: Imagine Gear suspecting me for OMGUS'ing 68, which I think I've done in past games here, People randomly formed an RVS wagon which I need to be careful not to look scummy plus, I've been also thinking it as a random wagon and not a serious one. So you could see my posts here: 43 53, 58 is actually me being silly. 62 68, 74 when I asked if RVS is out because I want to know if I'll read everything as serious. 76 is me being

self-conscious

, So I really didn't say my reason. 89 is really my reaction in post 68.

Okay so this is what I found out: 177 is when JJD suspecting me with Rasko's 143 reason. 2F then immediately said 178 which I think is being opportunistic. Especially when he said: "I get people don't want to rush things but sometimes rushing isn't so bad. Just had a game end where we lynched someone quickly and it worked in town's favor because he was scum and it helped the PRs find the other scums" - I don't see this relation with what he said that I am a good lynch. If it's his gut, It's weak.

183 is when JJD didn't believe me, Of course, what would you feel if someone think you're lying when you're telling the truth? 191 is offensive. So it's offensive, I said 193. JJD really think I'm scummy, he doesn't want to pay attention on my posts. This is 194 when I said 190 which I stated on .

195 - It is definitely an invalid argument. When I said I'm on my mobile at that time which is true and matter-of-factly speaking, This is NAI. Argument is invalid because I forced myself to find that someone and quoted it with another post. Gerryoat, does that mean I'm avoiding direct confrontation when I quoted it on my next post?

344 - Actually JJD, reads do actually change. If Gamma reads your later posts as scummy, then re-reads your ISO again, He can find your posts that he finds town as scummy. Come to think of it: If you find a food delicious at the first time but saw some things you don't like on it, It can very much change your look on it whatever you say it's not disgusting.

VOTE: TwoFace

I'm still not voting for JJD, I'm going back on forth on him, but 2F - I need your reasons compiled on me why you think I'm a good lynch instead of Tywin who you find scummy?

[keyenpeydee]

I just read Gear's iso which is full of Keyen meta whatever scum yada yada on me. Seriously Gear, If you find me scummy, State some quotes, reasons or whatever which is

related on the game

and not on the previous game we had.

VOTE: keyen

Explain your gear jarjar and tywin reads for me.

Gear's explanation is on the first paragraph here on the post. JarJar is on 371. Tywin, Well, I find him townish. He's not my strongest town read but I like his posts so far.

[keyenpeydee]

KeyNpeeles vote is bad too.

There's alot of resistance to lynching from the Key/Dave/Gamma pool.

JarJarDrinks lemonade is the worst.

[keyenpeydee]

my username clearly states keyenpeydee dumb

[keyenpeydee]

Edited the quote so I could manage to answer it:

I need your reasons compiled on me why you think I'm a good lynch instead of Tywin who you find scummy?

1. I already said that I think tywin is probably scum if you are scum, so clearly i am not going to be voting him right now.
2. I much prefer your lynch because i feel your reaction to the quick votes on you were bad, I don't see you acting the same way in the game that gear linked,
3. and I don't appreciate how you immediately tried to discredit me by calling me a bad player and saying I ruin games when 1. that wasn't true at all and 2. your only experience with me is ongoing which violates site rules.

1. Your X is scum thus Y is scum too is definitely poor weak reason for me and tywin to suspect. This reason is legit shitty so let's analyze 2.
2. Are you pointing the RVS votes? I don't see that quick votes or wagon on me as bad. This reason is legit shitty so let's analyze 3.
3. No comment. Wouldn't want to be banned.

[keyenpeydee]

I just read Gear's iso which is full of Keyen meta whatever scum yada yada on me. Seriously Gear, If you find me scummy, State some quotes, reasons or whatever which is related on the game and not on the previous game we had.

Uhm, his argument was actually in your favour. He was defending you.

How? Do I read him wrong?

[keyenpeydee]

Rasko, He's clearly not. Saying I need to be treated with kid gloves is offensive btw.

[keyenpeydee]

I don't know what to say....

[keyenpeydee]

Put it like this:

People have different interpretation on things.

[keyenpeydee]

If yall would choose who to lynch then Dave is much more good than between me and gamma.

[keyenpeydee]

Keyen what do you see as the difference between twoface and jarjar that made you decide on twoface?

The difference is: I'm being back and forth on JarJar by this:

Everyone please, I've played with jarjar multiple times and he rubs a few people the wrong way every time with his somewhat "harsh" or judgmental-looking demeanor. I don't think he's scum here.

Which basically made me rethink that maybe JarJar could be possible town, just harsh and aggressive or maybe that you two are scum buddies. So, well, I decided to go on 2F first.

[keyenpeydee]

If yall would choose who to lynch then Dave is much more good than between me and gamma.

why?

His posts are actually non sense

[keyenpeydee]

VOTE: TwoFace
Obviously going to betray us.

UNVOTE: TwoFace
Meme is stale now.

No one in Game of Thrones is bad.
Everyone has their own reasons for doing things and Tywin's is money.

Either keyenpeydee hasn't been lynched yet because scum don't want to lynch their buddy, or people are being cautious.
One of the two, really...

Gear, what are you doing?

Making a probably overused joke.

I caught up and still have null reads on pretty much everyone...

I caught up and still have null reads on pretty much everyone...

1. Why did you unvote twoface when you did?
2. What do you mean in 63?
3. There have been several exchanges by now to judge and the keyen wagon and you don't have any comment on any of it?

1. The random voting thing is a meme. I always unvote memes.
2. Pretty self-explanatory.
3. I'm really not good at scumhunting or anything. I just point out WIFOMs and try to figure shit out. I'm still pretty new to FM.

This is how few his posts are. Doesn't matter how many, but the point is all are nonsense.

[keyenpeydee]

I can see SSBM somewhat but why are you leaning town on Gamma and Vijarada?

I town read them for I am expecting them to be town. Not a strong town read, just a normal post by town. But if they would act scummy, sure it would change.

[keyenpeydee]

One last question, what's your vij read now if that was a joke before?

Let me correct it, It's not a joke. It's just that I stated it as me being not serious on that. My reads on him is still leaning town. He still haven't posted some worthy posts that would earn him a town nor scum points.

[keyenpeydee]

Keyen what do you see as the difference between twoface and jarjar that made you decide on twoface?

The difference is: I'm being back and forth on JarJar by this:

Everyone please, I've played with jarjar multiple times and he rubs a few people the wrong way every time with his somewhat "harsh" or judgmental-looking demeanor. I don't think he's scum here.

Which basically made me rethink that maybe JarJar could be possible town, just harsh and aggressive or maybe that you two are scum buddies. So, well, I decided to go on 2F first.

You use somebody else's meta read change your mind?

Look, You're much more worse than JJD.

[keyenpeydee]

if keyen isn't gonna happen, i'd be ok with grey but think keyen is a good lynch

You feel like I'm a good lynch because I stated you will ruin town? Bad reason.
I'm catching up now. Would want to provide reads with this JJ and Grey exchange.

[keyenpeydee]

I need your reasons compiled on me why you think I'm a good lynch instead of Tywin who you find scummy?

I already said that I think tywin is probably scum if you are scum, so clearly i am not going to be voting him right now. I much prefer your lynch because i feel your reaction to the quick votes on you were bad, I don't see you acting the same way in the game that gear linked, and I don't appreciate how you immediately tried to discredit me by calling me a bad player and saying I ruin games when 1. that wasn't true at all and 2. your only experience with me is ongoing which violates site rules.

Can you quote some posts on my reaction on the quick votes?

[keyenpeydee]

I'll just state this before I read the Grey thing-y again:

So I could see people jumping on my wagon and thanks for gerry and lannister, who called me keyan instead of keyen, for actually wanting a case on me. Seriously though, I need the case compiled so I could understand my wagon. Let's compare me to Dave: The difference between me and Dave is me posting more contents that I believe is enough for myself (Scums wouldn't want to believe it was a content-worthy post because it was posted by the-so-called scummiest person) to explain my reads. Dave, on the other hand, is just posting one sentence.

So if yall would like to lynch me because I'm an easy lynch, think about it more. Who's more the easiest lynch: Me or Dave? The reason I'm asking this is even though I'm not posting some content-worthy post, but still I'm trying to communicate and help town whilst Dave is actually admitting he's dumb town. So yall would like to remain Dave, who could be just a newbtown who's posting non sense, and if LyLo comes, he'll say: "I think X is scummy so Vote X" but Y is the real scum. So yeah, so much for the newbtown to let win the game.

I don't care if this post itself is scummy, but think about it. Nevertheless, we're both the easiest lynch but I find Dave scummy so he's more a lynch-worthy than the-so-called scummy bitch.

[keyenpeydee]

So you declare my posts as serious posts and not rvs posting?

[keyenpeydee]

VT

[keyenpeydee]

I'm a VT.

[keyenpeydee]

I'm done. Lynch me. I am scum. Town wins.

[keyenpeydee]

Yes good job town. But if i flip VT, Lynch JJD and Rasko.

[keyenpeydee]

No lol i'm joking. I'm a VT. But i am so done.

[keyenpeydee]

I'm not self hammering. There's a 5% chance yall can forgive how i fucked up again as town.

[keyenpeydee]

Scum:
2F
JJD
Rasko

Game solved. Bye

[keyenpeydee]

Town:
Gamma

[keyenpeydee]

Cause it's the truth

[keyenpeydee]

Scum:
2F
JJD
Rasko

so ugly

I assumed you looked in your mirror, yes?

[keyenpeydee]

If i am a dayvig, i would shoot jjd

[keyenpeydee]

Bitch you just broke the rules.

Mod - JJD broke the site wide rules. He needs to be force replaced.

[keyenpeydee]

Y would scum claim their mafia?

[keyenpeydee]

They're*

[keyenpeydee]

2F, if I flipped town, Keep an eye on Tywin.

[keyenpeydee]

Just because he's not included in my strongest scum reads doesn't mean he's scum.

[keyenpeydee]

If there is any living cop here and I flipped town, Cop JarJar. Trust me.

[keyenpeydee]

@key,

got any strong townreads?

Tbh none. But my last words are the cop should investigate you if I ever flipped town.

[keyenpeydee]

.

the point is that you supposedly scumread 2face but are telling him to keep an eye on tywin.

2F.is town. I changed my mind. He's emotion is ruling his body just what he did on my Mini Normal 1848 when he shot a town when he was a vig for the same shit reasons.

I also have a suggestion:
There's a possibility that we're experiencing a TvT

[keyenpeydee]

I'm disturbed by these recent developments
Not thinking keyen is town anymore

I'll be hammering unless anyone objects

Ok

[keyenpeydee]

.

the point is that you supposedly scumread 2face but are telling him to keep an eye on tywin.

2F.is town. I changed my mind. He's emotion is ruling his body just what he did on my Mini Normal 1848 when he shot a town when he was a vig for the same shit reasons.

I also have a suggestion:
There's a possibility that we're experiencing a TvT

And you change mind now whyyyyy?

I've really been going back and forth with everyone tbh. My reads are unclear as always. The truth is, I just scum read people who are being so aggressive on me.

Part of me.thinks JJD and Rasko are both scum because of they played each other and Rasko thinks JJD is just aggresive as town. But whenever I read that, There's something in there.

2F, on the other hand, just doesn't want to be suspected for dumb reasons like I stated that his reads are as shit like what he did on Mini Normal 1848. And he's suspecting me for dumb rvs post i posted. U kno what? It's just so frustrating.

Tywin? I feel like he's scum because he suspected for town reading him which is really so frustrating. Like seriously? Have people on my wagon realized that? That Tywin is just basically agreeing with yall and the only differences is that he's suspecting me for Treading him.

And I'm so frustrated. Don't know what to say when people are confbias on me.

And...
Urgh this is not my normal play style.

[keyenpeydee]

The reason my posts are not at all scum hunting is because the universal case is me. What do you expect? Ofc I would suspect people who's giving useless reasons on me. That's 2F. But if the case isn't me, I could give my opinions regarding it.

Do yall understand me? If so then lynch me. Because that's we're going right?

[keyenpeydee]

We need other options if you aren't the lynch. Grey was my pick, but he claimed bodyguard obv.

I couldn't trust the claim. But for me, Dave is much more better than me.

[keyenpeydee]

I'm not seeing much town in keyen's posts. The fact he keeps waffling on reads suggests he doesn't want to out his scumbuddies IMHO.
If anyone has something they need to say and can't say it in the next few hours, please notify me, otherwise I'll hammer when I sign off for the night.

I wasn't that keyen an hour ago.

[keyenpeydee]

I was gonna explain everything *cries*

[keyenpeydee]

If I flipped VT, Cop should investigate JJD's alignment. He can be tricky.

[keyenpeydee]

Great. Real great. Fascinating.