Mini Normal 1857 (Game Over - Mafia Wins!)

[JaeReed]

VC 1.25

rb (4)

: Transcend, drealmerz7, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq

gerryoat (3)

: TTTT, ironstove, iamafluffyrabbit

Transcend (1)

: shannon

Drone (1)

: gerryoat

Sesq (1)

: rb

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic, Lil Uzi Vert, Drone

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

iamafluffyrabbit is V/LA until the 2nd.

Impoetic is V/LA until the 4th.

[rb]

Still waiting for drealmerz to explain how im being anti-town apart from low activity cos hes dodged the question like 3 times now

[drealmerz7]

hmmm not sure about the anti-town part, but,

outright scummy through and through, no time at the moment to go back and find where it started/persisted to a point, but I think it might have been right from the beginning, honestly

[rb]

convenient

[Drone]

Agreeing with TTTT.

[drealmerz7]

convenient

scummy ^

had to make winnnnnngs

now I have to eat them

then I need to sleeeep

[ssbm_Kyouko]

and how is my lack on concern not?

I think I'd say the same but I think it's more like we're just saying" get it over with" and he's maybe being scummy about it. Idk, I'd be willing to look at drealmerz if rb flips town but I dont like people just assuming there is a vig to shoot rb.

[drealmerz7]

just finished eating, now bed, but it occured to me, I'm definitely not the only one that was on rb's wagon, yet I'm the only one vocal, so I'm the only one he can point to to try and have disprove his scumness, whereas he's done nothing to PROVE his townness at the same time (and I will go back and try to find if I can pinpoint hisscumness from POV for you all later tnoight meethinx along with other stuffs)

[Drone]

You can't prove you're town unless a confirmed cop outed you, or you flipped.
You can prove your non-scummyness doe.

[TTTT]

and how is my lack on concern not?

it is.
just less so bc of who you are

[TTTT]

rb is probably either scum or VT
don't buy the BP claim right now
there are valid(maybe?) strategic reasons to fake-claim BP here if you are VT

^this is not me trying to soft-counter-claim

[Drone]

For personal benefit, which a VT wouldn't be thinking about.
The claim is genuine, TTTT.
Just look at his earlier posting pattern, there's no chance he claimed bp for personal gain as VT.
And I don't think he's scum.

[gerryoat]

This is my first scumread

VOTE: Drone

Maybe you can post why this is your first scum read too since you're taking so long to catch up you're obviously being super meticulous so why not share your thought process with us???

It was a reaction vote. lol

[gerryoat]

the predecessor of the slot should have no effect on how you read Gerry

anyone who uses facepalm emoji unironically is scum 9/10 l0l

[shannon]

All of this stuff in the spoilers. Just, all of it.

Transcend, your crumbs were about as subtle as a brick. It should have been obvious to you that they were what I referred to when I said I wasn't going to quote you and I thought you were a dirty faker, and that I wasn't going to vote you because of cost/benefit. I.e. if your softclaim was true it'd be worse for us to lose the JK than for us to miss lynching you as scum on D1. If you are town were either being incredibly dense in continuing to scum read me after I said all that, or you just decided to keep being a dick. I don't know. The other option is of course that you are scum.

Also, explain to me how a jailkeeper is supposed to contradict a 1 shot BP (957)? And why you later changed your mind and decided that the roles don't contradict (1043)? Surely this is not such a huge thing that you (with your wealth of mafia experience) were mistaken about whether we could have both roles? I don't get (at all) how you thought that claiming your role as a counter to RB could be more useful for town than simply saying you don't believe his claim. Your claim hasn't painted his in any worse light. If you're town I really can't see your thought process making sense.

Aside: I also don't buy the 'Jae wouldn't do that' angle on the role combo. I just played a game that had a role modifier that hadn't been used in a mini normal in like, six years. And yet, there it is.

Drone says almost exactly what I wanted to say, also in the bit I've spoilered. #dronefortown

TL;DR: I call complete and utter bullshit on Transcend and stand by my vote.

Spoiler:

i am a protective role and i can hardclaim it if necessary. i think our roles contradict.

kill this.

Actually fuck it I'm gonna just claim to get him lynched.

let's hope this game isn't a

prison cell

u kno like some other games

VOTE: rb

u kno why
pedit: VOTE: ironstove

he ninja'd me therefore he's mafia ninja right??

ssbm is town



guys

i think . . .

let's not put him

behind bars

today

why do you think im town transcend

play doesn't seem scum motivated

i'll throw u in the

big house

if ur mafia lol

yes and i will

i'd just rather not be run up

that would be quite a slammer

Rb is L-1

Someone drop dat hammer.

Cuff him up. Sentence him for life.

all these quotes are me crumbing my role which is JAILKEEPER

and i'm fairly sure jae isn't putting a JK and a BP/commuter in the same game.

so yeah i sacrificed my life to lynch you but idrc.

now hammer.

i think d1ing jailkeeper is so bad though dont do that again

unless theres something deeper to it but i wont speculate

pffff

you understand that it'd be completely silly and naive of me to believe that? I can think it might be true (I don't), but regardless a smart player doesn't just trust in that and let you live gutting us for the rest of the game with no consequence, right?

I mean, tell me what you'd do in this instance

you'd buy the BP claim and back off?

ive said it many times before but i never lynch a day1 PR claim because if they're scum they're already dead later on and if they're a town PR well u dun goofed

i crumbed my claim really fucking hard lol

besides our roles don't contradict but he's still scum.

Drone, no. I just reviewed both drealmerz's and rb's ISO's.

drealmerz7 is town, rb is scum.

If rb flips town, you have my blessing to flashwagon drealmerz.

But rb's reactions to drealmerz/me have been awful as well as the rest of his game.

Your points on the BP claim.
As you may seem he can't deliver the playstyle he should be right now, but rb definitely ain't a fool to not know how wasteful it is to claim BP day 1.
There's reason he did, and the play prior to it just hints me there's no scum motive here.

You instead, go ahead and aggressively push him over this. For scum it's a golden road for a mislynch.
This with the addition of how comfy you are with lynching him after claim, and Ironstove's quote.

[gerryoat]

Yo, I think transcend is town. And if his claim is legit then i think rb is maf from a setup standpoint. but hmmmm. question is, would rb REALLY claim BP as maf? that's like the most scummy PR claim. Is it too scummy to be scum? Or is it wifom that we would all think it's too scummy to be scum and unvote it. anyway, i think i'm gonna vote this for now

VOTE: rb

[gerryoat]

All of this stuff in the spoilers. Just, all of it.

the predecessor of the slot should have no effect on how you read Gerry

anyone who uses facepalm emoji unironically is scum 9/10 l0l

^^^^^^^

[shannon]

(Is the unironic use of this scummy too?)

FWIW I think the scummiest looking emojis (emojis? emoji? what is the plural?) are the smiles, they just looks dodgy.

[TTTT]

The dude who just said this

It was a reaction vote. lol

thinks this

is scummy.

[TTTT]

i don't care anymore about rb and trans
day1 claims will be sorted later
i just want #scummygerry to diediedie

[gerryoat]

The dude who just said this

It was a reaction vote. lol

thinks this

is scummy.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joke

[TTTT]

1088 was a joke or 1087?
or both?
this is important.

[Drone]

i don't care anymore about rb and trans
day1 claims will be sorted later
i just want #scummygerry to diediedie

Day 1 claims sorting might be too late day 2, thus not a good choice

[Drone]

Gerryoat.
Give me your eyes.

[iamafluffyrabbit]

if transcend is real thats honestly some of the worst jk play ive ever seen

but ill believe its real lol haha