Mini 1856 - This Mafia Game is for pieguyn (Game Over)

[beeboy]

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[beeboy]

As a side note I want Drealz to explain why Dwlee, Wisdom and PK are scum and I want him to quote the Luna town posts.

[beeboy]

Until he does those simple things only using posts before I asked the first time I won't unvote him

[beeboy]

I asked at the top of page 22 btw

[Varsoon]

Good luck.

[mhsmith0]

I'm not talking about the Miller claim--that was a good idea. Claiming Miller D1 is what you should always do.
I'm talking about being the highest voted wagon and then claiming Miller but also claiming your role is very powerful otherwise.

IIRC when Aero claimed, his wagon was basically collapsing.

395Here he claims

200Here he was at L-2
Nahdia, pieguyn, beeboy, Wisdom, mhsmith0

217Here Nahdia flips to Varsoon (Aero at 4)
225Here beeboy also flips to Varsoon(Aero at 3)
231Here Varsoon flips to no voting to voting Drealz making him a 3-vote wagon
274Here Pie flips to Dwlee (Aero at 2)
285Here Wisdom flips to Cakez (Aero at 1)
and then various other votes
and only then does Aero claim. So I don't really see how "Aero claimed to shut down his wagon" works as any kind of theory. He was long since off of the board's radar when he claimed.

[beeboy]

Smith what are your reads right now?

[mhsmith0]

pieguyn - town lean
Varsoon - ???
Luna Fox - null
Gamma Emerald - town lean
Nahdia - ???
Wisdom - town lean
drealmerz7 - ???
SirCakez - ???
Aeronaut - town lean
beeboy - town
Dwlee99 - ???
pisskop - ???

I feel like I should have a decent scum read by now but I don't particularly.

[mhsmith0]

As a simple example, I look at Varsoon's 744 and it displays a pretty profound lack of thread awareness given that he's pushing an argument that makes zero sense given what was actually happening. It's derpy enough to maybe be town (since scum would probably know basic stuff like "what was actually happening around the events that I'm talking about) but idk if Varsoon is any good at faking that sort of thing, or is actually derpy as scum.

[Luna Fox]

I just remembered i promised some links but i kinda need to go to work like right now so i'll do that when i get back.
Please remind me and dont let me forget again, thanks.

[Luna Fox]

Also looking at that reads list what's the difference between ??? and null

[beeboy]

I think he assumes I would want to know what his read on you was as I asked for the read list.

[beeboy]

I would love for you to find a game where you fail to read someone's read list and proceed to push them about there reads.

[mhsmith0]

It's more that I've spent more time thinking on Luna's slot than the ???'s, so I'm actually null on her, compared to some of the other slots where I don't really have a developed opinion. Some, like Varsoon, Nahdia, and dwlee, I'm not really sure that there's enough there that I could have a meaningful opinion yet (I'm mulling over whether it's fair to at least slight town read varsoon for the derp in 744, haven't decided yet). I don't really feel good about my ability to read Cakez and probably should spend more time there but haven't. I've also been demotivated from really digging through dreal's shit-posting and deciding what I should be thinking about him.

[pisskop]

Yea, but everyone else (me) are town hunh. I gotcha

[beeboy]

Luna before you go and find posts I just want you to know that even if you really do regularly forget to read individual important posts that still doesn't change how sketchy it is you expect to be town read for sharing 1 or 2 reads with someone.

[Luna Fox]

I would love for you to find a game where you fail to read someone's read list and proceed to push them about there reads.

Except that's not what i did here.
First, I never pushed Aero, i was wondering why he was ignoring me.
Second, I was talking about his opinions during the catchup not his reads list. look at 473, Do you see me talking about reads in there?

[Luna Fox]

Luna before you go and find posts I just want you to know that even if you really do regularly forget to read individual important posts that still doesn't change how sketchy it is you expect to be town read for sharing 1 or 2 reads with someone.

I thought there were more opinions, and i DO townread ppl that share my opinions most of the time, this isn't even new knowledge nor a surprise. If you think you're expecting to mislynch me for expecting other people to not parrot opinions and ignore the people that have already posted about them in the first place you got another thing coming.

[beeboy]

Here is what you asking me to believe since you misinterpreted vague statements in a few other games (which you never actually quoted and I can't remember)

1. That you thought Aero made a variety of statements he never actually made and if you expected him to town read you based on similar thoughts you must have imagined a lot of statements that weren't actually there.
2. You read all of Aero's posts except his read list where you only read his read on you and somehow managed to avoid at looking at anything else in his read list. Which I also don't buy because you claimed to have read his town reads that contains a variety of players you aren't town reading and you thought he was fabricating your thoughts but didn't actually read what his thoughts where.

I have trouble believing either of these individually and both together have to be true for you to be town.
Do you really think I am being unreasonable right now?

[beeboy]

I honestly can't believe you are scum reading me because I don't think you just magically forgot to read over 90% of a post and somehow read a variety of Aero posts that where never made.
Well I actually can believe you are scum reading me because you are just scum.

[Wisdom]

beeboy i think you're tunneling here

[beeboy]

I am voting Drealz tho.

It's kinda hard for me to not talk about my Luna read as long as she is pushing me on the notion that my read on her isn't possible because a town beeboy would know better.

[Luna Fox]

1. That you thought Aero made a variety of statements he never actually made and if you expected him to town read you based on similar thoughts you must have imagined a lot of statements that weren't actually there.

That happens like all the time, but no i dont call them imaginary posts i call it "i thought there were more opinions than what i remember"

2. You read all of Aero's posts except his read list

where you only read his read on you and somehow managed to avoid at looking at anything else in his read list.

Which I also don't buy because you claimed to have read his town reads that contains a variety of players you aren't town reading and you thought he was fabricating your thoughts but didn't actually read what his thoughts where.

For someone that speaks english as their main language, you seem to be very bad at reading my posts like this one:

I was reading from top down and then went like "Wait why am i null when he's commenting on the same things i've commented"

So either you're bad at reading english posts or you're misrepresenting me again, which one is it?

[Wisdom]

i know how it feels, ive tunneled on her a lot

i dont think shes scum here

can you remind me why you think dreal is scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

I see this and I really want to comment but I don't really have much to contribute to the topic at hand
I think beeboy is likely right tho