Micro 665 - Autumn Masquerade [Game Over]

[Gamma Emerald]

I've played True Love before so I should be able to handle this no sweat.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can I be gay?

AGREED

GAMMA DANCE WITH ME INSTEAD <3

this post made me lol

[Gamma Emerald]

I have set my sights on the most handsome man here, but if he will not have me I will accept a lesser man.

[Gamma Emerald]

I want to be Dunn's partner

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm scum

[Gamma Emerald]

WHY DOES NO ONE READ THE RULES?
This keeps happening

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm...that's no bueno

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi. All caught up.
Dunnstral might be scum, idek. DIG's plan is a little sketchy. As stated before, scum can get into the works and mess everything up. I don't really think it's AI though, it's just a bad plan. What I would like to see is more content from him. Sick and HS too.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hello

[Gamma Emerald]

Dig seems towny rn.

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW I've changed my preferences
Dave's still not number 1

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't want you anyway, I think you might be scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Parama probs scum, their reasoning for tring me feels weak

[Gamma Emerald]

Interesting I am uncertain on Parama. Is there any reason that warrants a scumread beyond her townread of you?

Some of her posts feel empty too.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well if Dave pairs with Human, that leaves DIG and Sick, as well as me, Vedith, and Parama. I personally want DIG rn

[Gamma Emerald]

category A: dunn posts where he makes a point against someone
43
48

category B: dunn posts where he calls someone scum with no substantiation
25
116
117
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264
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295
304
313


i feel like i'm being pretty generous with the few posts in category A too
this honestly isn't that far out of the norm for dunn (except he's kinda blatantly omgusing me) but if you're saying someone's posting looks empty you better not ignore the elephant in the room

OK, and ftr I'm not a fan of Vedith's push on DIG rn

[Gamma Emerald]

category A: dunn posts where he makes a point against someone
43
48

category B: dunn posts where he calls someone scum with no substantiation
25
116
117
259
264
277
295
304
313


i feel like i'm being pretty generous with the few posts in category A too
this honestly isn't that far out of the norm for dunn (except he's kinda blatantly omgusing me) but if you're saying someone's posting looks empty you better not ignore the elephant in the room

OK, and ftr I'm not a fan of Vedith's push on DIG rn

What did this have to do with the post you quoted?

I was acknowledging the post and stating I had others scum suspects in the ladies.

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma who do you suspect in the dudes?

I believe I already stated Dunn. Sick is a null read atm

[Gamma Emerald]

I think the gentleman should deal with the males and the ladies with the ladies for the most part if we have to come up with a...what's the word uhh I give up I had something and I forgot
I'm iffy of gamma cause I can normally insta know when he's town and I can't this game

OMFG THIS MIGHT BE THE SCUM IN THE LADIES

[Gamma Emerald]

I think the gentleman should deal with the males and the ladies with the ladies for the most part if we have to come up with a...what's the word uhh I give up I had something and I forgot
I'm iffy of gamma cause I can normally insta know when he's town and I can't this game

OMFG THIS MIGHT BE THE SCUM IN THE LADIES

omgus?

Am I wrong? there's only 1 scum in the group of 4 each and using that to our advantage can be very beneficial

Yeah that's not the problem

[Gamma Emerald]

Saying she can normally read me well is a poor reason to have a scumread on me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also this is a very different setup.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also this is a very different setup.

You blaming a set up for how you act is bs
bliz mafia was a dif set up
deatnote was a dif set up
so wtf is your point

Those were slightly different than normal.
This type of game I feel has entirely different strategies than normal mafia. It's why I discount any statements comparing my play in a game to my play in the last Lover's game I played. In that game, getting tred was easy af by just showing a real suspicion of your partner. I abused that as town but still, scum are much less likely to want to suspect their partner.

[Gamma Emerald]

i'm not applying a rigid concept to the game. i'm intepreting dunn's actions in this particular game as towny, because that's how i read the motivations behind their posts
'too scummy to be scum' is doubting yourself because you're reading them as definite scum
i'm reading dunn differently than that, i've seen a few things that ping me but the feeling i get behind his posts are towny and genuine

i just feel like you're being too quick to dismiss the stuff you pointed out about dunn.

i'm not dismissing it, it's still in the thread and it's still in my mind
scumDunn is still a possibility. my read might take a complete 180 if i end up interpreting their thoughts in a different way later due to later actions.

@Dunn and Dave
pls no
i don't think a pt w/ Dave will help me sort out this game at all, i get that having two trs together is a good thing for the rest of the town but it doesn't really help me at all

i would much rather gamma be left behind than vedith, i'm unsure of vedith's alignment, but if she's town she tends to give really good analysis when she decides to pull her finger out and actually play the game

plus then there'll be one more shitposter so i won't feel so alone

i'm not sure gamma will post much to further the game at all if they're left in, which will end up making it even harder to determine their alignment

I can shitpost too!
Also, what makes you say I won't post much that's helpful to advancing the game?

[Gamma Emerald]

I can shitpost too!
Also, what makes you say I won't post much that's helpful to advancing the game?

Because it's you, and you never do?

I certainly posted quite a bit that advanced the game in Dem Tryouts.

[Gamma Emerald]

Thank you for revealing your true colors Vedith!
By which I mean you're scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I

[Gamma Emerald]

zzz

[Gamma Emerald]

I find your behavior simply atrocious, Vedith.

[Gamma Emerald]

I find your behavior simply atrocious, Vedith.

Is this an agreement, or what?

[Gamma Emerald]

Well I'm here so if you still want to pair wth me that works.

[Gamma Emerald]

Dave, I accept your invitation

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh man I would totally snag Dave's dance proposition from before if I didn't want to dance w/ dig so much
Worth noting that dave is a slut with three propositions~

One was a repeat

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh yeah, you're right.
You could have accepted his older one this whole time y'know.

I was making sure he was still OK with it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, if anyone proposes to Vedith, expect to be lynched.

This kid thinks he has any power.

You are with Gamma - Always gets lynched.

LOL
I've been lynched a few times but not enough to say I "always get lynched". And I've never been lynched in a game where Vedith was playing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay.
Name one.

[Gamma Emerald]

No, I'm not telling you my alts!
I can ensure that between you and Dave, you will manage a lynch. If it's on scum, 10/10
If it's on town, that's on you 2.

LOL what an ego
This doesn't live past pre-dance

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm inclined to agree with vedith here. I doubt both Gamma and Dave are town.

That's not the part he needs to die for
Trying to avoid responsibility for a town death is scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

LOL what an ego
This doesn't live past pre-dance

You're just mad that I'm this good.
You know how stubborn I am so I take the worry of me getting into the dance as a strong tell.

How about realizing you always are responsible for a mislynch you push.

[Gamma Emerald]

How about realizing you always are responsible for a mislynch you push.

I think I'm right more than not with my inistial pushes.
Are you actually saying that I have never caught scum?

Well there was that time you rolled lyncher on Charloux so that counts for something.

[Gamma Emerald]

It seems I have ended up picking the universal scumread amongst the males. I do not believe Dave is scum, I feel he would have held out for his buddy to get paired before asking me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yo, Dave claimed to have an infinite null read on Vedith and now reads him as town
Sounds like scum fabricating reads??????????

That was at you silly

[Gamma Emerald]

Mod I have just been called an idiot and to be honest I'm very offended, I'm requesting a modkill on PsychoticDave because he's unreasonable and also scum

this post is a joke please don't take it seriously

Yo, Dave claimed to have an infinite null read on Vedith and now reads him as town
Sounds like scum fabricating reads??????????

Also this is fake as fuck

[Gamma Emerald]

It seems I have ended up picking the universal scumread amongst the males. I do not believe Dave is scum, I feel he would have held out for his buddy to get paired before asking me.

Wait, you just slipped!
You know that Maria and Dunn are town!

What the fuck, you're making shit up. Dunn is the scummiest of the males IMO, and Maria's "eh lynch him IDC" doesn't inspire confidence either.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mod I have just been called an idiot and to be honest I'm very offended, I'm requesting a modkill on PsychoticDave because he's unreasonable and also scum

this post is a joke please don't take it seriously

Yo, Dave claimed to have an infinite null read on Vedith and now reads him as town
Sounds like scum fabricating reads??????????

Also this is fake as fuck

Good job! You found the joke!

Suuuure...

[Gamma Emerald]

Would you care to dance with me, Gamma Emerald?

I'm ready to advance to the next phase

Dunn's windup for proposal came way later

[Gamma Emerald]

Or even later than I thought
Where was that again

[Gamma Emerald]

Would you care to dance with me, MariaR?

All the way on page 7

[Gamma Emerald]

Or 8
Post numbers are hard

[Gamma Emerald]

IIRC DIG's plan was starting to form by then

[Gamma Emerald]

Consolidating my points
>Dave wouldn't have proposed in his first post as scum FMPOV
>Dunn proposed several pages later, after DIG and Dave started forming the plan

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW my only games so far where I've been lynched are
Open 654
Mini Normal 1832
Mini Themes 1837 and 1840
I'll find out who you are, Vedith.

[Gamma Emerald]

I've managed to reduce your possible pool of people to ~15 by seeing who you played with.

[Gamma Emerald]

So I suspect Maria and Dunn might be scum together if it wasn't clear from my summary.

[Gamma Emerald]

anyways bye vedith see you in game 666 (which is not yet an ongoing game thus I can talk about it)

lol gfdi
Not like that's substantative anyways

[Gamma Emerald]

He already did

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum don't need to read the thread, they already know everybody's alignment.

Sweet shade throwing bud. He misses one thing and you assume he's seen nothing.

[Gamma Emerald]

The fact you said it twice probably means you don't really believe it and are just trying to force your reads on others.

[Gamma Emerald]

I said it again because it also applied to you.

That's a fucking misrepresentation I've read the entire game.

[Gamma Emerald]

LOL
If you weren't so quick to jump on him about that you wouldn't have fucked up the context.

[Gamma Emerald]

She accepted too.
PEdit: shut the fuck up we know what you think Human.

[Gamma Emerald]

She accepted too.
PEdit: shut the fuck up we know what you think Human.

AtE

How is that AtE

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Human Sequencer/DIG
I am more confident in this than Dunn/Maria right now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum don't need to read the thread, they already know everybody's alignment.

Scum don't need to read the thread, they already know everybody's alignment.

Scum don't need to read the thread, they already know everybody's alignment.

Scum don't need to read the thread, they already know everybody's alignment.

There is no need to say this 4 times except to drill it in.

[Gamma Emerald]

So like, what's the scum motivation?

To try and strong arm my lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma you got 5 seconds to answer why I should not lynch your ass

Because Hs's push on my pair buddy is fucking rehearsed

[Gamma Emerald]

That was poorly worded, but I only had 5 seconds.
Why would town post that one exact phrase four times? It feels like scum trying to put Dave's play under that one idea.

[Gamma Emerald]

Is your case literally me memeing by quoting one line four times
Is that literally it
Surely there's more to it than that?

Pretty much, but it's strong enough to make me confident in this. IIRC you also got a ton of towncred for no good reason.

[Gamma Emerald]

Reading over it it looks like Sick was the first one to give towncred to HS. BTW the way this makes it likely scum is that it puts out a townread on the slot without much to go on so they can either bus easier by saying the townread was weak or have a base for defending their buddy.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why is everybody voting dunn/mariar
Stop plz

?

[Gamma Emerald]

I can get with that, I suspect Sick as a likely scumbuddy of HS.
However, I'd rather push the main scum than the associated.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma why all this tunnel on HS. I don't think either her or DIG is worth killing at all. I mean seriously? You are scumreading her for posting something 5 times? I don't think scum would be that obvious.

That's what they want you to believe
Maybe her buddy in the gentlemen is the one being pushed the most prior to that point.

[Gamma Emerald]

I was pressuring Dunn/MariaR right before then so maybe Dunn is her partner

[Gamma Emerald]

I was pressuring Dunn/MariaR right before then so maybe Dunn is her partner

Awful trying go push us as both scum. We'd obviously lose this game

Didn't you say you were good as scum in another game?

[Gamma Emerald]

LOL
I'm pushing scum, sorry if ignore a vote on me

[Gamma Emerald]

I care more about my life then my read between u2

Didn't you say you didn't care if you were lynched earlier

[Gamma Emerald]

What the fuuuuuuck
I try to push what I think is scummy and become ubiquitously scumread
Do you want me to actually play, or do you want me to be a mindless sheep?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm ignoring it because I'd rather focus on the more substantative votes.

[Gamma Emerald]

So you don't care that sickofit has no substance?

They're a null read because of that.

[Gamma Emerald]

323 was me trying to segway into another opinion, that's why it says ftr

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm.
I can see HS having convinced DIG to give Sick a pass in the Lover PT.

[Gamma Emerald]

@maria
1. you set up this weird pairing of dunn and human that doesn't even make any sense and doesn't seem to come from anywhere
2. you seem to really dislike dig but give no indication as to why

unrelated but 365 is a post you made i'm not sure what you're referring to here

and it sort of reads like a reaction to dig calling you his top lady scum pick, kinda omgusy

Wait am I the only one that really sees a dunn/human pair?...really????
That's shocking

I don't like how dig pops of gives a reads list goes away I've been waiting for SOMETHING from him and what I get is THAT...
what I meant with the 365 is he didn't see what was wrong with what gamma says and once again I thought it was fairly clear >.>
Maybe because in my mind everything is easy to see.

Didn't you state you thought that based on me suggesting it?

[Gamma Emerald]

My PT has only been me talking so far
First post was an egopost
second was asking dave for some reads

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma might be town.
I've been thinking in the back of my mind it could be dunn/human

Although it may have come across a little muddy. IIRC Dunn though it was suggesting Dunn/Maria scum again.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait am I the only one that really sees a dunn/human pair?...really????

I don't blame you. Unfortunately you're wrong this time

Hey I'm seeing that possibility too.

[Gamma Emerald]

AND PEOPLE STILL WONDER WHY I DON'T SEE A HUMAN/DUNN TEAM?

Do you mean do?

[Gamma Emerald]

I've been pushing other lynches because no one wants to believe I'm town. I'm exploring options, I don't think HS is the only possible scum in the ladies.

[Gamma Emerald]

Then as soon as she's called out on it she flips a 180.
Lynch this ^^^

There's not really a 180 in there. I'm saying what I think, and if you have an issue with me not completely confbiasing, then I might as well replace out because my play is obviously suboptimal.

[Gamma Emerald]

Whoa. I need to actually fully read what Dunn said, and see if it makes sense, but I'm inclined to trust him after that reaction.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also gamma just took a complete 180 on her beliefs from earlier-- That Dunn is scum.

The case looks sound, but I'll see how Dunn acts on it.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: GammaEmerald

sorry dave you're with scum

Is this because I'm waiting to see what Dunn does?
It will help me read genuinity.

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually I don't need to wait, his logic doesn't seem forced.
VOTE: SickofParama

[Gamma Emerald]

parama laughed. "you mean the gamma emerald?"

dafuq

[Gamma Emerald]

the mod is on so the game will be able to continue right away~

This doesn't sit right with me
Seems like you're just going through the motions.

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean that you are trying to go from one part of your plan to the next.

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma
829 reads as 'Look at me I don't care that I'm l-1! Look at how towny I am with my unsubstantial empty reads!'
LYNCHTHIS

Nice discredit

[Gamma Emerald]

My plan is:
Lynch Sick
If Sick flips scum lynch you
If Sick flips town lynch Dunnstral or you

[Gamma Emerald]

I've said this like three times before, guess what scum don't have to do because they already know everybody's alignment?

4!

[Gamma Emerald]

Technically 5 now

[Gamma Emerald]

Fine. Lynch me/Parama the when I flip town lynch Dunn/Mariah and Gamma/Psyhotic.

VOTE: SickofParama

Jk. You're not lynching us first
UNVOTE:

Lynch Dunn and gamma. If either of them flip town then lynch me and you lose. But they're not flipping town

VOTE: GE

You don't have anything to say about HS?

Yeah, that's the "reaction" I noted earlier.

[Gamma Emerald]

@DIG: where are you?

[Gamma Emerald]

GUYS
DIG JUST HAD A PERIOD WHERE HE POSTED NOTHING
I THINK HE'S SCUM

[Gamma Emerald]

Dude's in two games, one is a Newbie in Daytime, the other is this one. There's no posts from DIG at all since their last post here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma why all this tunnel on HS. I don't think either her or DIG is worth killing at all. I mean seriously? You are scumreading her for posting something 5 times? I don't think scum would be that obvious.

Nice 180 bro.
>inb4 they say 'That was 150 posts ago!'
You had from post 801 to change your mind, in fact you ended up naked voting gamma.
Hory shet if you get to l-1 I might just lynch you anyway.

They're already at L-1. But not anymore.
VOTE: DIG/Human
In your words:

Scum don't need to read the thread, they already know everybody's alignment.

[Gamma Emerald]

No, I just peeled of a L-1 wagon.

[Gamma Emerald]

GUYS
DIG JUST HAD A PERIOD WHERE HE POSTED NOTHING
I THINK HE'S SCUM

I guess this catch means fucking nothing since he had no time...

[Gamma Emerald]

AAAAAHHH
I keep trying to be helpful and all I get is hate
fuck it

@MOD: replace me out

[Gamma Emerald]

>parama
>he
REALITY RUINED

The setup and flavour was fucking incredible to be honest, do you run these often? I want in.
Also this is the first game I've actually done well in lmao
If 'clean town game'='get townreads, sheep townreads' then I got that shit on lockdown, finding scum is considerably harder though

I'm a he
I'm comfortable in my masculinity enough to plat as a lady
If we ever do one of the larger scale games I'd love to join.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also make sure to redact all that filler in the scum PT, I'll post my conclusions here but the legwork is unnecessary.

[Gamma Emerald]

DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE ALT SPOILED!
These are my suspects for that alt Vedith talked about.
I eliminated:
players who joined before him
People who played with him
Banned players

Spoiler:

Postie
Not Chara
Zulfy
Aubrey
BigYoshiFan
ecane
Gear

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, I have failed in this game, but I've learned a valuable lesson about my scum meta.
Also: SCREW YOU MARIAR! I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU!

[Gamma Emerald]

You cannot be Zulfy and Aubrey
You cannot be BYF AND ecane AND Gear.
They were in the same game.

[Gamma Emerald]

I also don't see him being Not Chara.

[Gamma Emerald]

HA NO
They just have the same avatar.

[Gamma Emerald]

Now we just need DIG to pick Human.

Scum don't need to read the thread, they already know everybody's alignment.

this is ace posting from human tbh

This post probably

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you think I'd want that?

[Gamma Emerald]

I could have fucking turned that shitty meta argument on you but NOOOO YOU GUYS HAD TO FUCKING BLITZ
Maria if you ever use that "this doesn't look like his town game" excuse again I will tunnel you into the ground.

[Gamma Emerald]

IT WORKED CAUSE IT'S TRUE GAMMA!

Even if it was I'm tired of seeing it. Come up with something better to explain your gut reads.

[Gamma Emerald]

IT WORKED CAUSE IT'S TRUE GAMMA!

Even if it was I'm tired of seeing it. Come up with something better to explain your gut reads.

I don't need to because it works and until it doesn't I won't need to change it
it's an epicmafia thing

Okay then buddy

[Gamma Emerald]

Yessss
Hopefully whatever alignment I roll I do better in that game.

[Gamma Emerald]

/pre-in ALL THE WAY

[Gamma Emerald]

Will you permit hydras for this game?

[Gamma Emerald]

mkay

[Gamma Emerald]

What happens if there's a misbalance of ladies to gentlemen?
Also, itmight be more fun if the group with 1 more made the offers, as you then make it a game of "can you look good enough to get accepted".

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay.
Is it allowed to /in as either?