Mini 1856 - This Mafia Game is for pieguyn (Game Over)

[Varsoon]

can you explain your pisskop read please?

pedit: @varsoon

This is pisskop's town game. I was able to confidently forward pisskop as town by my fourth post.
If you want more, I can share, but I'd rather keep some of it a secret until post-game.

also Id like to know why you're not voting Cakez who actually has a wagon if you're feeling confident about both him and drealm.

pedit: still @varsoon

I feel stronger about Drealz, and, as the votes on this page reflect, a drealz wagon is possible. That's why I haven't skipped from the Drealz vote that I initially made--I'm confident in the read, and, as Drealz posts more, I am not losing that confidence.

[Gamma Emerald]

drealz is not impressing
Out of Luna/Aero I think I tr Aero more

[Wisdom]

right
What do you think dreal's scum motivation is again?

[Wisdom]

^@varsoon, not gamma

[beeboy]

I actually didnt fully read his reads list ^^;;

Your response to my main point about your Aero stuff being really sketchy is you made a bunch of mistakes and didn't read his posts.

[Luna Fox]

Yeah, so?

[Luna Fox]

I read his catchup, i just misremembered, I just remember reading it and going like "Huh, he has the same opinion of me about this post, i bet he's gonna QFT me somewhere down the line" and then saw nothing.

[Nahdia]

luna is town bc i read her posts and i can tell she's town.

[drealmerz7]

your posts made it look like them voting you made you more certain of them being scum

which is really dumb

it is really dumb

I guess that is why I make posts like that, because I assume the fact that most ppl playing know that is not what anyone does because doing that is dumb, so I must be doing something else and you should look deeper

I guess it's maybe commentary that could be kept to myself, but, I also think it is important to share because, well, they're my reads and reads like that I tend to be good with, they'll develop as the game goes but I need to establish that that is how it is when I feel the need to

[drealmerz7]

luna is town bc i read her posts and i can tell she's town.

to me luna is bleeding town out of each post

[Wisdom]

can you elaborate
because i also read her posts and i cant tell shes town

pedit: @nahdia

[Nahdia]

can you elaborate
because i also read her posts and i cant tell shes town

pedit: @nahdia

Honestly, I'm not sure I can.

It's just one of those things where I read it and it feels like genuine sorting effort. I guess you can call it gut but it's more than gut it's just
she's town.

[Wisdom]

have you played with her before?

[Nahdia]

Yes.

[SirCakez]

@Cakez: I detail exactly what I find weak about the post while positing what I expect the slot to produce, should it be town.
Don't short-change me.

Right, except you flipped out, not just "detailing what was wrong with the post"

i dont feel like dreal is doing anything scummy

So it's not just me

[Varsoon]

right
What do you think dreal's scum motivation is again?

Lynch the town--like, what do you mean?
I saw earlier posts as eager engagements with topics that went on for pages,
coupled with very non-committal reads posted from time to time. (Even now, drealz doesn't expound upon reads--like, why does he think Luna is so town? What posts, specifically? That amount of distance is a smokescreen, imo. It lets drealz come up with reasons later, rather than having to construct a narrative now.)
Moving forward, since I had already had a few votes and had expressed a negative pings from drealz,
It made sense for Drealz to vote me and play the angle that I'm scumpainting players; not that I'm scum pushing people over little issues, notably.
It's way easier for drealz to walk away from my flip with a "Well he was scumpainting everyone, so I thought he was scum, whoops." It excuses his play against me as weak town play, rather than scum play.

[Varsoon]

Right, except you flipped out, not just "detailing what was wrong with the post"

Until I begin posting videos of Macho Man Randy Savage and making photoshop edits of Charles Barkley, I have not yet flipped out.
Did I go a little hard in the paint?
Sure.
That's what pressure looks like.

[Wisdom]

why can't he be town doing all of this?

[SirCakez]

Right, except you flipped out, not just "detailing what was wrong with the post"

Until I begin posting videos of Macho Man Randy Savage and making photoshop edits of Charles Barkley, I have not yet flipped out.
Did I go a little hard in the paint?
Sure.
That's what pressure looks like.

mmk

[drealmerz7]

dissertational reads come on D2, MAYBE

D1 is for note-taking and generating content to garner reads

I did

did you?

who else did?

put your votes down

[Varsoon]

Town, I'd imagine, wouldn't be so dodgy when initially prompted about their alignment--at that point, drealz was heading the conversation. I sought to drive the rhetorical power away from that.
Furthermore, I don't see town being so late in their vote on me. When the initial votes swapped over to me as it was clear the Aeronaut wagon was losing traction, those made sense. Drealz' vote came after the fact, in a place that feels scum to me.
Finally, Drealz posts against me, while they may be mostly NAI, don't ever seek to vindicate the points I make against Drealz. It's this all-out attack, and, most of it, a redirect of very early points I made against Drealz. This tells me that, for some reason, those early criticisms are what stood out and what drealz takes offense to. Which, likely, means that they're on-point.

[beeboy]

I read his catchup, i just misremembered, I just remember reading it and going like "Huh, he has the same opinion of me about this post, i bet he's gonna QFT me somewhere down the line" and then saw nothing.

i literally just don't believe you didn't read his posts if you brought up how he ignored you twice.

[Wisdom]

Town, I'd imagine, wouldn't be so dodgy

yeah ill just stop you there
dont assume townies actually play like town should play, or you'll misread people all the time

this whole thing sounds like you just dislike dreal's playstyle

[pieguyn]

pie is townish --> not gonna rule out a scum pie just because its their special game. pie you hate being scum rite?

this is correct.

I refuse to let a Luna wagon happen until and unless I have a scum read on her. apart from that, I will be back probably tonight or tomorrow.

[Varsoon]

Town, I'd imagine, wouldn't be so dodgy

yeah ill just stop you there
dont assume townies actually play like town should play, or you'll misread people all the time

this whole thing sounds like you just dislike dreal's playstyle

That's probably the case, too.