This catch up is just getting me through things commented on on page 15. I will try to catch up on other things tomorrow.
In post 359, TwoFace wrote:First you voted me or did you forget?
That doesn't matter though. Your attempt at a case on me is the kind of garbage I don't see town making. Some of your other posts I don't see town making, especially you who I know is a decent player.
To somehow imply my vote on you was bad just shows you can't be town
I know I voted you...mine was the first you received iirc and your omgus reaction comes across very poorly. As do your wagon mates I cast suspicions towards.
In post 359, TwoFace wrote:That doesn't matter though. Your attempt at a case on me is the kind of garbage I don't see town making. Some of your other posts I don't see town making, especially you who I know is a decent player.
To somehow imply my vote on you was bad just shows you can't be town
But you implying my vote/case on you is bad doesn't "just show you can't be town?"
In post 360, Gamma Emerald wrote:Havingfitz: pushing the masons before they claim is NAI. If you wanted to attack someone for doubting the claim then that would make more sense.
If there was a mislynch today would it be acceptable to cast suspicions D2 on the people voting the mislynch (i.e. VCA?). Two millers claiming D1 essentially provides that same VCA opportunity before D1 ends. Trying to vote town IS AI.
In post 361, TwoFace wrote:I already said I can't remember the term, maybe chainsaw defense? Idk it looks like you're buddying them by calling the people voting them scummy.
The votes could be justified but you don't seem to consider that.
My vote on misa was completely justified.
I don't give a shit if he's a mason, that doesn't change my opinions and I certainly am not going to change that now. I was wrong cause he is town, but that doesn't mean I'm scum or even scummy.
I'm sure town voting the masons thinks their votes are justified. I don't think everyone voting the masons is suspect. But I had stated before the claims that I two of the players were town reads who at some point suspected/voted the masons. That made it more likely IMO that the others had a greater chance of being suspect. And now that misa and LUV have claimed your opinion has changed hasn't it? You won't be voting them because of their claim...correct?
In post 362, Hiraki wrote:moreso just trying to stir discussion, i won't vote eric this game
your analysis is almost spot on except that I also think that eric is lying from a town position - it's a radical theory but it's a theory. how do you feel about that aspect?
I do not lie as town unless it's to save myself from a mislynch. Though I can't remember any examples of when I have. If I think someone is lying that's a scum indictment in my books. Where do you think Eric is lying?
In post 365, TwoFace wrote:Ted said Eric didn't explain his reads. I called him on it because he did explain one of them. Was it a mistake by ted? Probably but again I pointed out the facts. I didn't misrep anyone.
What I said still applies...Ted didn't say ALL Eric's reads were without reason which was what you were inferring and what got you both in a spat.
In post 365, TwoFace wrote:Explaining why I have a gut read on them and keeping my vote on them is giving myself deniability of softening my stance? You can't be serious. By adding to my vote I'm commuting myself more to that read making it harder to get away from it.
The quotes below point out what I am saying. After your naked vote on Misa you gave a few reasons and then afgterwards only referred to your vote as gut...not very strong gut at that. I do not equate reasons with gut so your comments below look like backtracking to me.
In post 210, TwoFace wrote:I voted you cause I think your vote on Eric is garbage. Your reason for voting him is garbage and I disagree that him wanting to rush the day is a scumtell. Looks like going after an easy target which I feel is more likely to come from town. Some of Eric's posts aren't great but nothing looks like they have scummy intentions. Yours on the other hand do to me.
In post 299, TwoFace wrote:It's really just a gut read ATM. Not sure it's strong enough to sell anyone on
In post 365, TwoFace wrote:Is voting misa before I knew she was amasin bad? 100% no way
Is voting town bad? Sure but I didn't know she's town so you can't use that against me.
I can use it against you. And how do I know you didn't know she was town???
In post 365, TwoFace wrote:I guess I do need to find games where you voted a town PR. The fact you act like town can't be wrong and it automatically makes anyone who voted a mason scummy means you're hypocrite or scum.
Of course town can be wrong. I've acknowledged it in this case by admitting my own suspicions and saying I thought Hiraki and TVD were town. Your point???
In post 365, TwoFace wrote:I mean technically you're voting town right now havingfitz, so you're bad or scum your self.
Technically? How do I know you are town who voted town? I mean technically you could be scum voting town.
In post 366, TwoFace wrote:That didn't take long. You pushed a lynch d1 on a town pr and you weren't scum - viewtopic.php?p=6973570#p6973570
So? There are always more town on a successful mislynch wagon than there are scum. How does that relate to this game? Are you saying there were no scum (with the knowledge they were voting for town) voting for the masons before they claimed?
More tomorrow.
