Open 656- Tit For Tat - Endgame


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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:40 am

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To be fair on Eager he did give us our first life line by shooting Kop.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:45 am

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MDS also deserves a lot of credit. Replacing into a scummy slot and making herself immediately valuable enough to eat the maf NK.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:47 am

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In post 1476, FancyPants wrote:MDS also deserves a lot of credit. Replacing into a scummy slot and making herself immediately valuable enough to eat the maf NK.
Yeah that's really impressive.
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:40 am

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I'm gonna give myself town MVP, clearly I inspired the team to victory :P
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:42 am

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To be honest ironstove I thought it was either you or twizted. I didn't think it would be infinity because bussing when he did would've been a sub op play. Didn't want to shoot twizted because he was replaced at nightstart by mhsmith and I felt that would've been rude.

Essentially this win boiled down to infinity making two sub op choices in a row (bussing and not killing role cop). I think they could have got away with a twizted Lynch instead of bussing else they should have killed the role cop. Either of those choices would've likely resulted in a scum win.
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:47 am

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In post 1475, FancyPants wrote:To be fair on Eager he did give us our first life line by shooting Kop.
Yeah. My bad shooting the jk n1 but he was the competing wagon. At first he was looking like he would be the Lynch but I decided since everyone wants him lynched I might as well move the wagon over to the next scummiest person and vg kill the original wagon at night
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:48 am

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eager, twiszted was voting farside too.....

The only reason I bussed was because I essentially had no justification not to. I had expressed townreads on every other slot in the game up until that point, so to avoid voting farside would've been suspicious as hell.
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:49 am

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I just think you guys could've pulled out a twizted Lynch to win

Else you should've still killed the claimed role cop who said he was investigating you (this was another reason I didn't shoot infinity)
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:50 am

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In post 1482, eagerSnake wrote:I just think you guys could've pulled out a twizted Lynch to win

Else you should've still killed the claimed role cop who said he was investigating you (this was another reason I didn't shoot infinity)
Yeah that was dumb.

The issue with the twiszted lynch was that we didn't have enough votes when fancy got paranoid at the end there.
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:52 am

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Even if you had voted ted we would've needed fancy's vote and he backed off at the last second.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:52 am

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My contribution was skimming the last day and thinking it really didn't look like a bus between house and far side.
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:53 am

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In post 1482, eagerSnake wrote:I just think you guys could've pulled out a twizted Lynch to win

Else you should've still killed the claimed role cop who said he was investigating you (this was another reason I didn't shoot infinity)
I don't think anyone is arguing killing infinity was the right call, I do think killing Ted may have been optimal though.

Had you killed Ted (which I think was optimal) and had infinity killed me (which was definitly optimal).

It would have been Ironstove, Infinity and you. In that case it's up to infinity to convince you to vote Iron, which I think was doable.

Another interesting option would have been for Infinity to jail me. Then we are left with a few interesting outcomes.
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:54 am

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Jailing would be REALLY sub optimal. Then you lynch one of the vt claims and vig the other, auto win for town.
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:11 am

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In post 1476, FancyPants wrote:MDS also deserves a lot of credit. Replacing into a scummy slot and making herself immediately valuable enough to eat the maf NK.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:14 pm

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In post 1465, MiniDeathStar wrote:Good job townies!

I see I was right about Gamma and farside22. Do I owe you an "I told you so" y/y? ;)
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:14 pm

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Don't think anyone honestly deserved a win, maybe MDS. Almost everyone played really poorly here.
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:53 pm

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I think eager Def should not have won. He played horrible and the arbitrary scum read while lurking and not talking that could GA e lost the game proves my point, he's a shit can mafia player who doesn't use his most important tool I. E. His brain
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:54 pm

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Infinity made some questionable and plays as well, and Ted was basically begging to be mislynched... Farside played really well when I look back at the game and mds had great reads too bad town we're all fucking retards who didn't listen
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:24 pm

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Thank you everyone for playing! Sorry for my lackluster activity but work is killing me lately (just woke up after 4h sleep after 18h shift and I'm now heading to work again now). Many thanks to all replacements and the amazing Plotinus, without whom I would've been where the Sun doesn't shine :3 For the most of the game I was sure mafia would've won, loved all the acitivty and distancing from them. Some town players were better earlygame, some stepped it up later and overall I don't think anybody should be too harsh on themself. See you guys in the future!
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:02 pm

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Dead pt: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8412302

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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:09 pm

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In post 1491, ironstove wrote:I think eager Def should not have won. He played horrible and the arbitrary scum read while lurking and not talking that could GA e lost the game proves my point, he's a shit can mafia player who doesn't use his most important tool I. E. His brain
I had fun though :-)

It was a tough game. Thanks scumbags! :-)
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:12 pm

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Good job, Jester, now the whole world can see how you were hitting on zombie me for pages. :shifty:
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:13 pm

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Basically my goal was: Don't be too townie or too threatening so I can avoid NKs and role cops. Don't be too scummy to where I get put l1 and forced to claim. Do be scummy enough that scum may think they might win a counterclaim (I had a really good crumb ready and there was no way I was losing a counterclaim
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:02 am

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Are scum OK with releasing their thread?
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:03 pm

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Right,eager you understand it was mylo the last day I subbed in, and you basically only had to communicate with me.

I saw when you said I was scum, then I tried to engage with you and ask you 1. Why were you scum reading me, and 2. What you thought about pre-declared targets.

If you were against #2, you should have said so so that I could have convinced you it was optimal and such, but instead you site flaked and you decided 'fuck it I'm going to shoot this guy because I am gut reading it instead of even talking to him'

And had infinity said 'Fuck it I'm going to kill the RC' then you basically would have been in a miserable 3-way all because you never bothered to talk with me at end game. There is no point trying to avoid NK when you're vig and it's mylo, literally 0 point.
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