Mini 1864 - Mao Mafia [GAME OVER]

[karnos]

VOTE: BTD6_Maker

Going to sheep the guy above me.

[karnos]

You know you're wagoning me right...?

That sounds like a violation of rule #1.

[karnos]

This game has me very confused. Just checking in, can't really formulate a play strategy since I don't know the goal.

[karnos]

I read my role PM. My role doesn't include a mechanic to remove threats to the town though, and I'm not sure voting does either. For all I know the vote could be to determine the mayor of the game.

Notice:

5) Voting: ??????
6) Voting: ??????
7) Lynching: ??????

Voting & lynching are listed separately. Maybe the day 1 vote isn't for a lynch. I am just lost.

Feel free to vote my for town mayor.

[karnos]

SURVIVOR

[karnos]

Moved over the weekend plus site downage. Reading the last few pages as soon as I get some time.

[karnos]

karnos also should not be lynched.

Why not? You want some more activity from me first, before lynching?

[karnos]

"This game has a distribution of 5:4:3:2:1"

5 vanilla town, 4 power role town, 3 mafia, 2 neutral, 1 serial killer.

[karnos]

VOTE: Radical Rat

You supposedly have all this secret information in your role PM, I don't see the pro-town incentive to keep it secret. Lay out the rules.

Violates Rule #12

[karnos]

I'm not a jester. This is a real claim.

I'm town aligned, lynching me would be dumb. Though, I'm confused enough about this game that I don't really care.

[karnos]

Sorry for my absense, cleaning up after moving into a new home and election crap. I'll be glad when it's over tomorrow.

VOTE: Chairman

[karnos]

My intention was to get to the night phase. Discussion has reached a stalemate, and we need a kill and some investigative results. I meant to hammer.

I agree with this sentiment. The game is a little stale, a flip and night actions is the only way to move things forward at this point. BTD is always scum anyway.

VOTE: BTD6_Maker

[karnos]

No you can't. Either I hammered BTD6, or we can't lynch people in this game.

[karnos]

Votecount 1.19

BTD6_Maker (8)

- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Radical Rat, karnos

ironstove (4)

- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Suzune

Gamma Emerald (4)

- Clumsy Phoenix, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

Mas y Menos (4)

- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

karnos (3)

- Chairman, SlySly, Chairman

123456789 (3)

- Chairman, Chairman, Tiershift

Radical Rat (3)

- karnos, shos, BTD6_Maker

shos (2)

- Gamma Emerald, Chairman

SnarkySnowman (2)

- 123456789, ironstove

Not Voting (3)

- FaerieLord*, Mas y Menos*

Mod Notes

Rule #?? has been invoked!!

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Maybe you are only always scum when you are in a game with me. This is a game with me, so you would be scum in this case.

[karnos]

But I guess I should give people a chance to switch the wagon to me.

UNVOTE: Unvote

[karnos]

Prod noted. Will catch up and post something more meaningful later tonight when I have a few minutes.

[karnos]

VOTE: 123456789

Original Roll String: 1d100 (STATIC)

1 100-Sided Dice: (99) = 99

[karnos]

I just find it very odd that someone can win the game but the game still continues on, seems like this should be a wrap.

How are you feeling today?

[karnos]

I just find it very odd that someone can win the game but the game still continues on, seems like this should be a wrap.

How are you feeling today?

Nothing ironstove? nothing at all?

[karnos]

I just find it very odd that someone can win the game but the game still continues on, seems like this should be a wrap.

How are you feeling today?

Nothing ironstove? nothing at all?

What do you mean by this question tho? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Ironstove is scum.

I'm town psychologist. I can pick a player each night, they get benefits if they are town aligned. Ironstove obviously didn't get any benefit from my night action, which makes him scum.

VOTE: Ironstove

[karnos]

Hmm? You mean how I got to make a rule?

Hmm, are you trying to use my psychology against me? Explain the message you got and what you did with it. And was it night 1 or night 2?

[karnos]

Night 2 is the only night I got an unusual message.

And as for what I did, I set a wonderfully hilarious rule which I won't disclose, but when you see it, youll know it was me.

Hmm that *sounds* legit.

UNVOTE:

[karnos]

First of all, before we lynch ironstove, can we wait for karnos to tell us who he targeted night 1?

Why is this so important?

Are you worried that it was you?

[karnos]

No, it's important because there is literally no reason for you to have soft claimed on Day 3 and not on Day 2. You outed yourself as a power role for absolutely no reason today, so I'm just very confused as to why you didn't do it yesterday.

Day 2 lasted 4 hours. I wasn't online to post.

[karnos]

I'm not saying I would have claimed yesterday, but I see advantages to not revealing my target.

If I have two people who I have used my power on, and I question one of them about it, they can't just lie and say "oh yeah, I did get that message on night 1" - not unless they want to gamble a 50% chance of getting the night wrong.

But if I spell out exactly who I targeted and when, they can just lie if they are scum and the investigative potential is wasted.

[karnos]

On the other hand, waiting too many nights increases the chance that I will just be killed before I can share at all, which reduces my role's value to 0. I figure two nights is the sweet spot.

[karnos]

I think you don't understand how my role works. I pick a player to target, that is it. I do not get a result back. I don't know if they are town or scum.

But if I target a given player on one of nights 1 or 2 and then ask them if they got the benefit, and they confirm the correct night... they are probably town. OTOH if they "confirm" and guess the wrong night, obvious scum. Or if they claim they never got any message at all, self admitted scum.

*Scum, meaning not town. They could be some neutral faction.

[karnos]

VOTE: Mas y Menos

Lets just lynch the cult. I hate Scientologists.

[karnos]

Wow.
You do know you have to lynch the leader to get anywhere right?

Nonsense. Cult recruits one each night, you kill one each day, that keeps the cult under control. Alternativbe is to ignore it and the cult gets control of the vote and game over.

[karnos]

To add to my last post, your logic is wrong either way, karnos.

10 people alive // 3 cultists alive -> lynch a cultist, 1-9 elects a cultist (-0 to cultist numbers), scum kill someone (-2 people alive)
8 people alive // 3 cultists alive -> lynch a cultist, 1-9 elects a cultist (-0 again), scum kill someone (-2 people alive)
6 people alive // 3 cultists alive -> cultists have half the number, they win.

We have to lynch 1-9 today or tomorrow. I mean, I'm not sure which.
I'm just worried RR was not the only jester. What if the cult wins if we lynch their leader? Or they can only win if their leader is dead?
Bastard games are bastard.

Terrible logic. You are assuming the cult leader will never target scum, and you are assuming scum will never target cult member or leader.

Realistically, scum kills should hit cult/town equally normalized by numbers, so as long as town counteracts the cult recruit each day cult won't overtake town.

Besides, what the hell is your alternative? If you don't kill a cult member every day, cult will absolutely overtake town, it's 100% guaranteed.

So you want to limit the pool of people we can lynch every day to the people that 1-9 chooses? You actually think this is a good idea?

123456789 has nothing to do with my choice, I picked mas y menos because he was bragging about being in a cult.

[karnos]

I'm still good with my vote. Iron is semi-confirmed town, why are you debating him?

[karnos]

The clumsey phoenix rises from the ashes and soars through the sky majestically before running into a impeccably spotless window and dying again.

Why would town post this. It's throwing shade.

Who knows. But from my POV, it's like debating a cop clear. He got a benefit from my power, knew the night it occurred, that means he is town. Period.

[karnos]

VOTE: 123456789

Whatever. The cult must end.

[karnos]

...Cloud=Jester?

More than one in the game?

[karnos]

Why is town ignoring this evil cult?

Haven't you listened to Tom Cruise go on about Scientology? Cults are bad!