NY 198: Nexus is Now a New Normal Mafia (Game Over)

[rb]

So anyway I also disliked the fact that I was Pine's only townread and, like Kraska, he wants to apparently not cooperate and only complain about his only townread.

[JarJarDrinks]

Note that I'm posting a fuckton, but if you read my ISO you'll see that I pressured Pine about why he wasn't doing that.

And if you read my ISO, you'll see that I commented on the fact that you pressured him about why he wasn't doing something that you earlier said he was doing

You can also note that I never said Pine WAS saying of those things

GET THE FUCK OUT!!!

That's EXACTLY what you were doing with this post

Spoiler:

There's not really anything wrong with TF or Pine's early game play.

They lack conclusions and conviction, but anyone who thinks that's the only things that benefit town in the early game is simply wrong. A good early game often comprises mostly of questioning and simply interacting and getting interactions out of people.

People are being lambasted with accusations of being shit - that needs to stop from everyone. If something is scummy, fine. Don't just blanket someone as shit because it's not alignment related.

but I expected him to start and when he didn't - I asked him why and pressured him.

Why did you expect him to start? Is there some reason you thought he was town? If not then why defend him?


VOTE: RB Sorry Trans, I think ur wrong here

[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: RB Sorry Trans, I think ur wrong here

PS: please don't fakeclaim mason w/ RB.

[JarJarDrinks]

I can actually see why you think Pine+Me are a scumteam JarJar but we aren't.

Where did I ever say anything like that?

[Pine]

Note that I'm posting a fuckton, but if you read my ISO you'll see that I pressured Pine about why he wasn't doing that.

And if you read my ISO, you'll see that I commented on the fact that you pressured him about why he wasn't doing something that you earlier said he was doing

You can also note that I never said Pine WAS saying of those things

GET THE FUCK OUT!!!

That's EXACTLY what you were doing with this post

Spoiler:

There's not really anything wrong with TF or Pine's early game play.

They lack conclusions and conviction, but anyone who thinks that's the only things that benefit town in the early game is simply wrong. A good early game often comprises mostly of questioning and simply interacting and getting interactions out of people.

People are being lambasted with accusations of being shit - that needs to stop from everyone. If something is scummy, fine. Don't just blanket someone as shit because it's not alignment related.

but I expected him to start and when he didn't - I asked him why and pressured him.

Why did you expect him to start? Is there some reason you thought he was town? If not then why defend him?


VOTE: RB Sorry Trans, I think ur wrong here

This is goodposting. Finally, someone who actually uses deduction

I can see your case on RB

[JarJarDrinks]

Imagine I'm town, you'll see kraska is skuM.

I already said I can easily see kraska as scum if ur town. But imagining u as town aint easy.

[rb]

JarJar stop confbiasing.

That post is NOT me saying that Pine is doing that, I'm commenting on a difference between styles and I hammered Pine on why he wasn't questioning people like 2-3 pages after that post.

[Zachstralkita]

RB, I'd rather wait until kraska gets back from vla. And I have no issue with the lynch really. If you're right we get 1 scum. If you're wrong you don't hold yourself to the same esteem next time.

VOTE: RB Sorry Trans, I think ur wrong here

PS: please don't fakeclaim mason w

/ RB.

This really needs to be stressed here..

[rb]

Or are you 'thoroughly null' on kraska too?

Anyone you're not thoroughly null on?

Because if your game is to work by questioning and slowly build reads - fine. But that would entail pressuring and questioning slots and trying to catch them out doing stuff - instead you're engaging in mostly general commentary and not interacting in ways that put you or anyone else under pressure. Why is this?

You made a vote to 'pressure' davesaz, so you obviously understand the point of pressuring - yet you barely apply pressure on anyone? Why?

^ I have been calling out Pine on his lack of doing that for like 2 pages lmao

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Pine

[rb]

RB, I'd rather wait until kraska gets back from vla. And I have no issue with the lynch really. If you're right we get 1 scum. If you're wrong you don't hold yourself to the same esteem next time.

VOTE: RB Sorry Trans, I think ur wrong here

PS: please don't fakeclaim mason w

/ RB.

This really needs to be stressed here..

Tbh I hold myself to the same esteem (if not higher) always because I'm rarely wrong about many reads in one game. When it comes to slots that I genuinely want to push to a lynch and not just pressure, I'm very rarely wrong.

It makes no sense to start doubting your reads when you have empirically good reads just because of one mislynch. Happens to everyone, not sure why you'd offer this as game advice.

[rb]

RB, I'd rather wait until kraska gets back from vla. And I have no issue with the lynch really. If you're right we get 1 scum. If you're wrong you don't hold yourself to the same esteem next time.

VOTE: RB Sorry Trans, I think ur wrong here

PS: please don't fakeclaim mason w

/ RB.

This really needs to be stressed here..

Waiting is dumb, this is what kraska does - she coasts out of pressure every. Single. Time.

Not saying the VLA is fake but in 4 days ppl will probably be agonizing over some other trivial development about the "grownup world" - we have like 8 people who think Kraska is likely scum and hate her posts. In my experience when THAT many people think a slot is off it's a decent scumtell as well.

Even JarJar thinks she's likely scum, but votes me because he seems to wanna put meanings behind my words that aren't there instead.

[JarJarDrinks]

That post is NOT me saying that Pine is doing that

Oh well since you say so it must be true. Wanna just tell me ur not scum also?

But ok, if it isn't you saying that pine is doing that then please tell me

why defend him?

[JarJarDrinks]

Even

JarJar thinks she's likely scum

, but votes me because he seems to wanna

put meanings behind my words that aren't there

instead.

[rb]

Where am I defending Pine?

You're misunderstanding a general comment on different playstyles where I used 2Face and Pine as examples to me actually talking explicitly about Pine. This thread was having lots of people base reads on what ultimately amounted to playstyle and I wanted to bridge the gap so that we could work better together instead of berating one another for usage of 'lol'

[rb]

Being town, this push from JarJar is fishy as fuck to me. If I flip town kraska is likely scum? So lynch me and springboard off my enthusiasm for Kraska lynch to lynch her as well.

If I'm wrong about kraska that'd be bad. Gonna re-evaluate here.

[rb]

Then again I'm not getting lynched today so who cares

[JarJarDrinks]

More proof that is exactly what RB was saying:

You can also note that I never said Pine WAS doing of those things, but

I expected him to start

...

NO NO NO. you were SPECIFICALLY pointing out how those players had played up until that point.

There's not really anything wrong with TF or Pine's

early game play

.

They lack conclusions and conviction, but anyone who thinks that's the only things that benefit town in the

early game

is simply wrong. A good

early game

often comprises mostly of questioning and simply interacting and getting interactions out of people.

You wouldn't have been referring to the "early game" if what you meant was that was something you expected those players to start doing later.

Furthermore, if that was something that they weren't doing in the early game why mention that their posts "lack conclusions and conviction"? Why did you expect them to eventually start questioning and interacting but you didn't expect them start concluding and convicting?

[JarJarDrinks]

Being town, this push from JarJar is fishy as fuck to me.

If I flip town kraska is likely scum?

So lynch me and springboard off my enthusiasm for Kraska lynch to lynch her as well.

If I'm wrong about kraska that'd be bad. Gonna re-evaluate here.

This is the 2nd time you're putting these same words in my mouth. All I said was I could see Kraska as scum if you're town. In no way have I implied that she should be chain lynched if u flip town.

So basically what I'm saying is I'm not entertaining the idea of her being scum @ this moment since I believe u to be scum. She would NOT be a top scumread of mine if you flipped town and there's nothing in my posts that suggest that.

[JarJarDrinks]

Being town, this push from JarJar is fishy as fuck to me. If I flip town kraska is likely scum? So lynch me and springboard off my enthusiasm for Kraska lynch to lynch her as well.

If I'm wrong about kraska that'd be bad. Gonna re-evaluate here.

Then again I'm not getting lynched today so

who cares

WHAT?!?!?!?

You want kraska lynched today right. So if she's town you should care just the same amount as if you were being lynched today.

[TwoFace]

VOTE: Pine

Explain please

[rb]

lol can u stop capslocking its so pointless

[TwoFace]

Jar. You're way aggressive this game. Why?

[rb]

anyway you seem either really intent on confbiasing like fucking mad or you're just scum and im not interested in either continuing a debate of you making up shit that's not true and telling me the intended meaning behind my own posts, nor arguing with some scumbucket deliberately trying to irritate and distract me

[JarJarDrinks]

Jar. You're way aggressive this game. Why?

Not sure what ur asking but this is how I play.