Mini 1864 - Mao Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Radical Rat]

Interesting.
Either the votecount is lying, or our votes are being passively redirected.
We'll find out first lynch, I suppose.

-Radical Rat

[Radical Rat]

Our of curiosity, I checked the playerlist and our votes are going to the person in the playerlist AFTER our vote.

So if you want to vote Mas y Menos, vote Suzune.

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: suzune

Why did I think this was a mao zedong game again

In a sense, it is.
Our Gracious Moderator is about as effective at telling us her rules as Zedong was at telling China his.

[Radical Rat]

I've also got some juicy info for you, though you might wish to take it with a grain of salt as it is Moderator Supplied.

[Radical Rat]

At least one of each are in the game: Harlequin, Zealot, Yakuza, Sitting Man, and Fallout 4 Protag

[Radical Rat]

My guess is that MyM is the Harlequin.

[Radical Rat]

Suzune
Are you willing to risk being lynched if the vote count is a lie?

[Radical Rat]

I think MyM is a better lynch than Gamma.
Both smell Harlequinish, but MyM is more likely to be real scum.

[Radical Rat]

You know you're wagoning me right...?

That sounds like a violation of rule #1.

So does that.

[Radical Rat]

I

dislike

it because I can't ISO the mod for all of the votecount.

[Radical Rat]

S

[Radical Rat]

@153
I believe it to be a role. An alignment even.
This is who I mean by Sitting Man.

[Radical Rat]

Based on my experience with card Mao, the Sitting Man probably came up with all of these rules.
Though I don't get why they got cancelled.

[Radical Rat]

Speaking of the rules...
Rule #1 is that we can't talk about the rules.

[Radical Rat]

4 people have voted me with shit-all reasoning.

Is that so?

[Radical Rat]

@BTD6 you should do the thing Mas never did and vote me.
KA-LOL!

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Radical Rat]

You're either a Harlequin or scum. I feel similarly about MyM, but whoever brought it up was right about maybe not lynching a daycop

[Radical Rat]

Speaking of Daycop, MyM check Gamma please.

[Radical Rat]

"Your annoying me": Mas y Menos and Gamma Emerald

Would you mind explaining this one?
I know it violates Rule 1, but some rules were made to be broken

[Radical Rat]

This might be useful to some of you
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_(card_game)

[Radical Rat]

vote btd6_maker

You were already voting there. The votes are no longer being moved if you meant to vote Gamma

[Radical Rat]

What is Harlequin? Is it just another name for Jester or is it a different 3P?

The first one.

[Radical Rat]

I read my role PM. My role doesn't include a mechanic to remove threats to the town though, and I'm not sure voting does either. For all I know the vote could be to determine the mayor of the game.

Notice:

5) Voting: ??????
6) Voting: ??????
7) Lynching: ??????

Voting & lynching are listed separately. Maybe the day 1 vote isn't for a lynch. I am just lost.

Feel free to vote my for town mayor.

The rules shouldn't change the basic gameplay. Things can be assumed to be messed with, but we're still playing Mafia.

[Radical Rat]

The information is in my role PM, and I had to come up with the names on my own.

[Radical Rat]

You are correct about Harlequin
Yakuza was not meant as a unique role
This Zealot is ToS's vampire
FO4 is the Sole ________

[Radical Rat]

Might be better if I called that last one "Someone who lives"

[Radical Rat]

SURVIVOR

Yep. That's it.

[Radical Rat]

I don't know if we CAN just vote for the Sitting Man.
I know I can't, but I guess we'll find out next VC.

[Radical Rat]

If we can, I will support that lynch in hopes of keeping the rules the same as days pass.

[Radical Rat]

I will cast the hammer vote, but otherwise shall not join the wagon.

[Radical Rat]

Scum rules can be cancelled by being outed
I don't expect our current SM to work with us though

[Radical Rat]

If he gets replaced it will be the hammerer or killer.
So me if we lynch him. And I'm 9-shot BP.

[Radical Rat]

Reasoning: In card Mao, the winner becomes SM. I'd consider killing the old one "winning" in this context.

[Radical Rat]

Understood.

That explains the chairman replacement thinking. Would the chairman know he's the chairman?

100%.
He would be the dealer in card Mao
Which does suggest the mod, but since the position is dynamic...

[Radical Rat]

Until we're shown otherwise, assume the vote is to lynch.

[Radical Rat]

The position is likely not dynamic; I have good reason to think so.

This good reason is...?

[Radical Rat]

@Mod
VC Please!

[Radical Rat]

What is Harlequin? Is it just another name for Jester or is it a different 3P?

I thought a harlequin was a mafia role. They have different powers though depending on who the host is.

This was not my intention. I just needed a synonym.

[Radical Rat]

This game feels pretty aimless and confusing considering we don't even know if how many mafia teams or 3rd parties are in the game (if any) so it completely throws off your ability to understand what the correct way to play is.

I have revealed the existence of third parties and at least one scumteam. Two if you count zealots.

[Radical Rat]

What is the advantage to us lynching the chairman or is this just some random objective that another person created?

I believe it was an experiment to try to understand the game better.

[Radical Rat]

Gamma is a good lynch for today, assuming we haven't hammered MyM

[Radical Rat]

A rule has been added, and I think it would be wise for us to determine why ASAP.

[Radical Rat]

In card Mao, rules are added after each round. I assumed that meant game day. It does not.

[Radical Rat]

Can someone explain to me tha harlequin thingie?

It is a synonym. Also could be "Clown" or "Fool"

[Radical Rat]

So I think we can presume 1 of 2 things:

Either chariman votes don't count or the game requires more than majority votes to lynch.

I'm thinking it's the former more than the latter.

We can presume nothing of the sort until we are another VC.

[Radical Rat]

So I think we can presume 1 of 2 things:

Either chariman votes don't count or the game requires more than majority votes to lynch.

I'm thinking it's the former more than the latter.

We can presume nothing of the sort until we see another VC.

Edit

[Radical Rat]

Is no one suspicious of the fact that RR seems to know how everything is setup? Maybe we should lynch him because I have no clue how he has all of this information and I don't, but I'm town, so he must be a 3rd party like the chairman.

Knowing this information is a part of my specific role PM, and is not factional.

[Radical Rat]

The Chairman is not a third party.

On a completely unrelated note, I ISO'd Snarky and found that she had claimed Chairman, an infinite voter.

I have in my Role PM a statement implying that it IS a third party.

[Radical Rat]

Vanilla Town do not exist.

We don't know that. Perhaps the VT PM is just worded differently from the sample.

[Radical Rat]

Ironstove's confusion seems genuine to me.
I don't like this wagon one bit.

[Radical Rat]

Votecount 1.12

ironstove (6)

- Chairman, shos, Chairman, Chairman, 123456789, Suzune

Mas y Menos (5)

- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, ironstove, SlySly

Gamma Emerald (5)

- Clumsy Phoenix, BTD6_Maker, karnos, Chairman, Radical Rat

BTD6_Maker (3)

- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

123456789 (2)

- Chairman, Chairman

Shos (1)

- Tiershift

Not Voting (4)

- Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord, Mas y Menos

Mod Notes

None!

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Gamma, Karnos, and MyM are today's reasonable lynches, in that order.

[Radical Rat]

why would you be confused? honestly, do you, as town, ever wonder what you want to do D1?

I did in my first game. Iron's join date is newish, and this is a very strange game, so I don't see a problem.

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: Radical Rat

You supposedly have all this secret information in your role PM, I don't see the pro-town incentive to keep it secret. Lay out the rules.

I don't know the rules. Everything I know has already been posted.

[Radical Rat]

Karnos is. Jester. I really think so.

Radical is probably scum white k ighting ironstove, whose posts really do look lile his inexperience is talking, so he might be town.

Radical should get more voats.

I'm scum for defending him, but he's probtown. Seems legit.

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: Radical Rat

Also, Radical Rat, can you state whether the mod explicitly confirmed in your Role PM that Chairman is a third party? As far as I know, some strange player named Snarky flipped Chairman and is still playing as an infinite voter.

I was told one was "in the game." Which seems kind of silly to say about a mod, doesn't it?

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: shos

Karnos is a good lynch, but this is better.

[Radical Rat]

Votecount 1.14

ironstove (5)

- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, 123456789, Suzune

Mas y Menos (4)

- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, ironstove

BTD6_Maker (4)

- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

Radical Rat (3)

- karnos, shos, BTD6_Maker

karnos (3)

- Chairman, Tiershift, SlySly

123456789 (2)

- Chairman, Chairman

Gamma Emerald (2)

- Clumsy Phoenix, Chairman

shos (1)

- Radical Rat

Not Voting (4)

- Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord, Mas y Menos

Mod Notes

None!

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How did you get from here...

probably an alt. Why are you defending him? he's got, even if not alt, 4 months on site. and this really isn't such a wierd game. it's a mafia game.

ok, not an alt, but this is his 8th game. not even close to 1sat.

... To here?

Karnos is. Jester. I really think so.

Radical is probably scum white k ighting ironstove, whose posts really do look lile his inexperience is talking, so he might be town.

Radical should get more voats.

[Radical Rat]

It probably just means Chairman is a game mechanic, not a real player. How come Chairman always happens to vote for players who violate rules, and no one else?

It was in a list of alignments/roles in the game, along with everything else I've been using synonyms for. They WEREN'T synonyms in the PM.

[Radical Rat]

The votes are likely automatic, and in addition to a regular vote. The only real benefit they would get is knowledge of the rules.

[Radical Rat]

The conjecture in 330 is based on card Mao.

[Radical Rat]

Mini-Theme 1846

13) Posting: Any hydra that signs a post as one of the heads will receive a post restriction - max 150 characters for the next 5 posts. Posts that do not comply to this will receive a vote from the mod.

"A vote from the mod".

I didn't even catch that. I guess you're right. It just made more sense to me it would be a player

[Radical Rat]

Tabledude

I have still not seen any explanation for the radical rat wagon.

VOTE: 1-9

This is probably a good vote since they sheeped shos's shit case.

Why lynch the sheep when you can lynch the shepherd?

[Radical Rat]

Still lol
It wouldbe reasonless hard defending stove. Both if scum and town.

So you're saying that Town should

not

be defended?

[Radical Rat]

Because sheep are more often scum

Alright, why 1-9 then? He's not the only one sheeping shos.

[Radical Rat]

I'll be on in the morning. I am very sick, catch up soon.

I hope you feel better in the morning!

[Radical Rat]

Mustnt post gifs?

And the reason is not that he was defending him, but that he was reasonlessly soing so.

He was being voted for being confused. That's a bad wagon.

[Radical Rat]

Lynching the mod is probably an exercise in futility. We should focus on actual scum.

[Radical Rat]

Lynching Snarky is a great idea; he would no longer be able to add stupid rules to the game.

And how often does lynching a moderator work?

[Radical Rat]

Do you honestly expect a flip from the moderator though? We need to lynch a

player

[Radical Rat]

And that player is shos.

[Radical Rat]

Whoops. The point remains for those who are though.

[Radical Rat]

Votecount 1.17

BTD6_Maker (6)

- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

ironstove (4)

- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Suzune

Gamma Emerald (4)

- Clumsy Phoenix, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

Mas y Menos (4)

- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, BTD6_Maker

karnos (4)

- Chairman, SlySly, Tiershift, Chairman

shos (3)

- Radical Rat, Gamma Emerald, Chairman

123456789 (2)

- Chairman, Chairman

Radical Rat (2)

- karnos, shos

SnarkySnowman (2)

- 123456789, ironstove

Not Voting (3)

- FaerieLord*, Mas y Menos*

Mod Notes

None!

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Sorry for my absense, cleaning up after moving into a new home and election crap. I'll be glad when it's over tomorrow.

VOTE: Chairman

We've already established those votes mean nothing.

[Radical Rat]

In all my time in Mafia, I have never been more confident in a read than shoscum

[Radical Rat]

In all my time in Mafia, I have never been more confident in a read than shoscum

Your day 1 read of someone must surely be stronger than all your previous lylo scumreads!

I've only been to LyLo once as Town, and yes this is stronger.

[Radical Rat]

I don't see how that makes him Town at all. Loved has great scum utility

[Radical Rat]

Unbalanced if he's scum? Definitely. But this game is unbalanced

[Radical Rat]

If shos is scum, and he is, he NEEDS to die TODAY, before this loved nonsense makes him immortal.

[Radical Rat]

I think loved modifiers disappear as they become too powerful
It happened in my last completed Mini Theme

I assumed they wouldn't because Bastard. But if it's balanced they have to.

[Radical Rat]

In that case, we need a flip from anyone at all ASAP.
Hammer time
VOTE: BTD6_Maker

[Radical Rat]

My intention was to get to the night phase. Discussion has reached a stalemate, and we need a kill and some investigative results. I meant to hammer.

[Radical Rat]

Now THIS is interesting. So let's try something different...

[Radical Rat]

@Mod
What is the lynch threshold?

No.

[Radical Rat]

This game has been approved for Non-normalcy and Non-balance by everyone!

Correction: This game is balanced.

Felt this should be pointed out.

[Radical Rat]

@RR: why didn't you ask for claim/reads?

Because the modvotes have proven fickle, and I didn't know how long the chance would be there

[Radical Rat]

Shos, if there is any truth to your claim, I recommend you take down Rule 7

[Radical Rat]

Uh
hint me as for what it is? because I'm not sure

Rule 12 violated.

Neither am I, or I'd just say it. But I suspect it's why we can't get a lynch through

[Radical Rat]

Each vote appears to bring with it a d100 roll. Rule 17, I believe. As for what it means... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Radical Rat]

Maybe it's only the ones that use the vote tags?

[Radical Rat]

Speaking of votes on you...
VOTE: shos

Original Roll String: 1d100 (STATIC)

1 100-Sided Dice: (74) = 74

[Radical Rat]

We know about the dice because every vote since rule 17 was added gets one edited in.

[Radical Rat]

We do not know what it means her though

[Radical Rat]

Where the fuck did that "her" come from?