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[XnadrojX]

Yay a game which I get to look at before it goes out of RVS.....

Hold on are we out of RVS already in Page 2!?

Dammit.

Spoiler:

4^th Game here, I hope I have a fun time with you all

And I'll look at people more closely later.

[XnadrojX]

What gamma did looks more like seeing the post, and feeling like continuing the discussion. That said, I don't think that stating that that was scummy deserves him a instant lynch, so I'm just going to hold my vote until we gain more solid evidence

[XnadrojX]

What gamma did looks more like seeing the post, and feeling like continuing the discussion. That said, I don't think that stating that that was scummy deserves mykonian a instant lynch, so I'm just going to hold my vote until we gain more solid evidence

Realised that it was horribly phrased, so EBWOP

[XnadrojX]

Yeah
I'm going to expand on my experience with XnadrojX
We played a chat game where I pushed his mislynch as town
Now he is mad at me

XnadrojX weren't you subbed in for that smogon mafia game for like a day before I (as scum) won? Or was that someone else

That's all irrelevant to the game we are playing now, let's move on yeas?

[XnadrojX]

RQS Time!

1) What roles do you like? What roles do you not like?

2) What is a behavior you would lynch if the person who did it was a null read?

3) Who, if town, would you trust with your vote?

My answers:

1) I like Jailkeeper for its multiple uses. Don't like Bus Drivers or Ascetics.
2) I don't like people being inconsiderate.
3) MariaR or kraska, maybe EP or myko

I'm going to entertain this then get back to the game:
1. I like complicated Bastard roles, but I especially love the Goo roles. I hate traitors.
2. Refusing to contribute towards Town.
3. In this game right now, No one. I trust only myself fully.

[XnadrojX]

VOTE: Gerryoat

Nice ISO there m8

[XnadrojX]

Question 3 is meant as a "who do you think is good at finding scum" question

I don't really know how good people here are at finding scum. O guess either Gamma Emerald or MTD

[XnadrojX]

Uh ok, sorry for posting less than I wished to in the past few days,gonna post a little more soon.

As for my reads, on the scum side Gerryoat had weird reactions to votes on him, but I can't really find anyone else particularly scummy (bar Transcend trolling)

On the nullish side, Gamma and My go here their arguments look more to me like drunk Town v another drunk Town.

On the Town side, I think gigabyteTroubadour has been Townish since he subbed in. I also think I would trust MariaR when it comes down to it.

As for the rest, they're mostly very slight reads that I feel will easily sway and therefore will not post here

[XnadrojX]

lol PS Mafia is just shitposting too.

And how is that post scummy I'm going to ask.

By the way I can assure you all I'm not scum.

[XnadrojX]

Uh ok, sorry for posting less than I wished to in the past few days,gonna post a little more soon.

As for my reads, on the scum side Gerryoat had weird reactions to votes on him, but I can't really find anyone else particularly scummy (bar Transcend trolling)

On the nullish side, Gamma and My go here their arguments look more to me like drunk Town v another drunk Town.

On the Town side, I think gigabyteTroubadour has been Townish since he subbed in. I also think I would trust MariaR when it comes down to it.

As for the rest, they're mostly very slight reads that I feel will easily sway and therefore will not post here

Scummy read post imo

Gamma I'm pretty sure you aren't the only one who was waiting to see if I followed through and if you were I'm disappointed in everyone else. At everyone else, this ingenious plan is not explicitly townie

uhhh no you didn't.
I'm fine with you scumreading me at least teach me why this is scummy?

[XnadrojX]

Because that IS a genuine read list that I posted and i shouldn't BE scummy cuz it's legit what I feel?

[XnadrojX]

I never liked ps mafia fwiw I've only played it like twice I don't like the environment and id much rather tos for fast games

On topic: his read post doesn't really commit to anything. Nothing of substance either. Idling and then coming back with that is not great.

How does it "not commit to anything", I cut out a few people, but I did list what I felt were the strongest of my reads.

[XnadrojX]

Uh ok, sorry for posting less than I wished to in the past few days,gonna post a little more soon.

As for my reads, on the scum side Gerryoat had weird reactions to votes on him, but I can't really find anyone else particularly scummy (bar Transcend trolling)

On the nullish side, Gamma and My go here their arguments look more to me like drunk Town v another drunk Town.

On the Town side, I think gigabyteTroubadour has been Townish since he subbed in. I also think I would trust MariaR when it comes down to it.

As for the rest, they're mostly very slight reads that I feel will easily sway and therefore will not post here

You read 5 people. Called it a drunk TvT which is huh, and your only scum read is the idler which is an easy copout without annoying anyone or starting anyrhing. Your only two town reads are "townish" and "I think", generally separating yourself from responsibility. It's not an awful post but it's definitely not great

My read on Gerry isn't for the idle. Look at how he responds to everything that happens to him. He has an "idgaf" attitude that I don't like, I would say I'm pretty commited to him.



Also, Gamma Emerald can you stop trolling and play? Thank you.

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I'd be happy if you could try to bundle some of your thoughts into single posts i think.

Sure thing, friend. But, in the meantime, could you please answer?

MTD can you explain the scumread on him besides the argument things? I really don't see how causing arguments is scummy in itself as it can show partner or non partner reads.

I presumed you hadnt read up yet because with the posts i made so far your question does not really make sense at all.
I never based my read on him starting arguments, the one post now where i even mentioned those was in reply to people defending him.
I also never said he started arguments, i said that he tried to devolve the arguments i started into meaningless semantics.
So idk, maybe just read my posts next time?

Why could I not be a day 1 lynch if I'm scum?

UNVOTE: Gerry
I main LC btw
VOTE: Josh
If you read me, why not lynch me? Why am I not supposed to be lynched day 1?

[XnadrojX]

Uhhhhhhh I quotes the wrong post. I meant to quote the one where Josh said that I'm not Day 1 lymch

[XnadrojX]

Nice probably.

thanks Josh

[XnadrojX]

Ugh
UNVOTE: Josh
Agh i just dont feel that anyone is scummy.

[XnadrojX]

I'll probably go through a few ISOs and reread the thread later over the weekend I was kinda disconnected from this game for a while, I'll just get back into it over the next few daya

[XnadrojX]

VOTE: MTD

Briefly skimming thru the thread, this is the person I feel most comfortable on

[XnadrojX]

Well mykonian doesn't feel scum to me and neither does ssbm. MTD feels scum to me

[XnadrojX]

Uh I look at their posts, and just MTD gives me the feel like he just needs people dead. Lemme go quote them

[XnadrojX]

Spoiler: Pretty much a whole bunch of stuff between these posts feel off

Also i am afraid i will have to find someone whose read on transcend i can copy.
His playstyle so far annoys me greatly and i dont think i can be objective enough with that.

I mostly agree with myko on josh, although i think most of his current way of playing does come from other places' meta.

Potato potato. I didn't misrep anyrhing, do you know what reactive devaluation is? And why is gamma allowed to get away with a master plan of seeing if I contribute? Of course I'll go on, what do you want me to do, stop playing and start getting into a pointless back and fourth with mykonian? Maria says my read post is bad for the reason it's bad and nobody comments on it? So many questions, the only real answer is I'm almost positive there's 1-2 scum in mykonian gamma and gerry, and you morons lynching me is a stupid mislynch that should not happen and you'll regret later but at least it'll teach me my place here or is that an ate that makes me obvious scum omg lynch me I scum slipped!!!

All I can say is you guys have weird methodologies, no clue why transcend is so sure I'm town but props

Oh I do know what reactive devaluation is. That has nothing to do with what i am talking about though.

In your post you claim myko still had a scumread on gamma.
Myko points out that was not the case and asks you to actually read his posts.
You claim you did read them.

This leaves three options:
a) You read the posts and understood them, but decided to lie.
b) You read them and didnt understand them.
c) You lied about reading them.

None of those leaves you in particularly good light.

Gives me more of the "I don't want to be scumread, scumread that other dude" feel than the "I'm a Townie he's the scum" feel.

[XnadrojX]

And if I'm wrong, I learn through failure I guess

[XnadrojX]

I do agree my posts were awful. But my votes are justified where I placed them.

[XnadrojX]

I shifted votes. I had reasons.

[XnadrojX]

Ugh
UNVOTE: Josh
Agh i just dont feel that anyone is scummy.

VOTE: MTD

Briefly skimming thru the thread, this is the person I feel most comfortable on

yeah, I see.

I originally voted Josh because he gave me his reasoning which was why I voted him in the first place.

After reading the thread I felt MTD was scummy

[XnadrojX]

oh woah

yeah that's the tos jailer oops

i assumed he was talking about PS! roles sorry

Even on PS! it's called Jailkeeper.

[XnadrojX]

hmmm 1. Continue lurking 2. Actually be useful

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

[XnadrojX]

JK I'm just going to read more from page 13 cuz that's where things get interesting

[XnadrojX]

Skimmed through my opinions so far are still scum MTD

gigabyteTroubadour is Town.

Gamma and mykonian are town lean

[XnadrojX]

Josh is meh.

idk Maria either.

I'm kinda bad at reading and stuff

[XnadrojX]

To me people pushing my TRs shouldn't affect how I read them. It's more of the "motives" than "what they do" to me

[XnadrojX]

He has it set up so no matter who we lynch he gets off scott free and that bothers me

I don't even know what I did. I kinda suck at Mafia(working on improving rn) so uhhh I'm not meaning to lurk or anything. Just trying not to fluff too much.

[XnadrojX]

Well I'm trying not to be inactive but it's kind of hard to keep up and stuff sometimes when you guys post for like a few hours straight.

Jordan is not contributing at all and has bad content. I agree completely and it annoys me too. But like I said, I don't think that's from being scum.

I see your opinions on me have fluctuated again.

you get lynch immunity today because of all those walls

but holy fuck

those reads.... what....

And walls doesn't neccasarily give him lynch-immunity or conftown (although I do TR giga)

i think people wouldn't townread him for genuinity/tone because he'd just straight up shitpost as scum, while here he's shitposting because his genuine attempts at solving the game are shit... but genuine.

I'm working on it

[XnadrojX]

Sorry about the prod

[XnadrojX]

Lemme read the game

[XnadrojX]

UNVOTE: MTD

intent to hammer Gamma

[XnadrojX]

ok ignore everything there I just woke up and was like fuck I have 3 hours to prodge so I just typed what came to mind after seeing the VC aka someone on 5 votes and I was like "fuck this shit" and yeah.

I just read through the past few pages and Transcend is acting scummier than before. I'll go quote them in a sec.
VOTE: Transcend

[XnadrojX]

Spoiler:

I've flaked out of games as town

I've flaked out of games as scum

The reasons I flaked were sometimes not even related to the game

Now can you put that theory to rest plz

Gamma, no.

This scum fuck hangs some other time.

a lot of the stuff here contains a lot of fluff and a either a lack of effort or just horrible language

[XnadrojX]

Spoiler:

I've flaked out of games as town

I've flaked out of games as scum

The reasons I flaked were sometimes not even related to the game

Now can you put that theory to rest plz

Gamma, no.

This scum fuck hangs some other time.

a lot of the stuff *between* here contains a lot of fluff and a either a lack of effort or just horrible language

EBWOP

[XnadrojX]

Am I allowed to request a sub for him?

He's technically met his prods but like he hasn't even had real content at ANY point during the game, and even his "game progressing posts" have been bad. He is different from idlers like kraska and RK because at least they have content at some point. Jordan has done nothing period and we'd benefit much more from a more active player.

Alternatively not opposed to jordan seeing this and posting more in the slightest but I don't expect it.

Edited. Let's not talk about outside games, and if you have any issues you can discuss with me via PM.

- Mod

Scuse me you cant demand to kick me out when I'm technically playing.

[XnadrojX]

Confident in kraska, mykonian and Gamma Emerald for Town after MariaR ISO.

VOTE: MTD

[XnadrojX]

Spoiler: I will fight you

Am I allowed to request a sub for him?

He's technically met his prods but like he hasn't even had real content at ANY point during the game, and even his "game progressing posts" have been bad. He is different from idlers like kraska and RK because at least they have content at some point. Jordan has done nothing period and we'd benefit much more from a more active player.

Alternatively not opposed to jordan seeing this and posting more in the slightest but I don't expect it.

Edited. Let's not talk about outside games, and if you have any issues you can discuss with me via PM.

- Mod

Scuse me you cant demand to kick me out when I'm technically playing.

Scuse me but that's not what I call playing and if your only post after the flips is this and you feel like you're playing we aren't going to agree so maybe stop talking avoid it and yknow, post about the games ND the people scumreading you?

I would entertain this if it would help us in the slightest but me not playing like ehat you want me to play is not infringing any of the rules in the slightest.

What motivation does scum have to kill Gerryoat over more "Town Leader" people? Most of gerryoat's contribution came near the end of day.

PEdit: Because he was what I was comfortable with before deciding to vote Transcend for, how do i put it, unusual play, before he basically conformed himself as Tow

[XnadrojX]

we're only like 1 or 2 days into the day so i don't think she really has to worry about saving her derrière just yet :/

Actually I understand I have been unproductive in this game. But we shouldn't waste a mislynch like that, I would much prefer being vigged. My vote is still on MTD

[XnadrojX]

Oops I quotes that on accident

[XnadrojX]

I'm still pretty sure MTD is scum with someone else. Can't make a convincing case but it's just how I feel. Also I'm probably getting vigged tonight so....

gigabyteTroubadour is TOwn

[XnadrojX]

I'm VT sorry for the absence. I played horribly this game I know I started this game thinking I can commit to it then I just sorta..... Couldn't keep up.

VOTE: mtd[\v]

[XnadrojX]

VOTE: MTD

nvm you lol hammered before me.

I played real shit here thanks gigabyte for protecting me since your meta of me involves another ene of my shit games and first impression of me = shit means good for me.

I would have committed more to this if something major hadn't happened to me in between ye. Also Transcend was incredibly trolly

[XnadrojX]

Is this your normal meta Transcend?

[XnadrojX]

I think he hard claims toast.

[XnadrojX]

Thx penguin. I was shit ;;