Mini 1864 - Mao Mafia [GAME OVER]

[ironstove]

Votecount 1.11

Mas y Menos (6)

- Tiershift, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, ironstove, SlySly

Gamma Emerald (5)

- Clumsy Phoenix, BTD6_Maker, karnos, Chairman, Radical Rat

Radical Rat (2)

- Suzune, SnarkySnowman

BTD6_Maker (2)

- Chairman, Chairman

123456789 (2)

- Chairman, Chairman

ironstove (2)

- Chairman, shos

SnarkySnowman (1)

- 12345678

Not Voting (2)

- Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord, Mas y Menos

Mod Notes

None!

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So I think we can presume 1 of 2 things:

Either chariman votes don't count or the game requires more than majority votes to lynch.

I'm thinking it's the former more than the latter.

This violates rule #16

[TierShift]

I think it's a waste of time to figure out this game, and I think discussing game structure for too long will detract from the actual game itself which is to find scum, so let's stop with the gameplay discussion unless it's prior to hammer and we want to figure out who the best PR targets are. mmmk.

right this is town

tbh, I don't have a read on anyone because everyone has only been talking about rules/gameplay.

The information is in my role PM, and I had to come up with the names on my own.

this is also town and karnos also should not be lynched.

I don't get why you would want to lynch a claimed day cop something. I also don't get the gamma wagon.

VOTE: shos

this seems like a much better place to start, your ironstove vote is shit.

[TierShift]

So I think we can presume 1 of 2 things:

Either chariman votes don't count or the game requires more than majority votes to lynch.

I'm thinking it's the former more than the latter.

Why the dichotomy? I think they just count regularly and it's majority to lynch.

[shos]

This game feels pretty aimless and confusing considering we don't even know if how many mafia teams or 3rd parties are in the game (if any) so it completely throws off your ability to understand what the correct way to play is.

Tier, what townie would feel aimless because he doesnt know how many scums are out there?
How will knowing that affect your play, anyway?
Why would existence of 3rd parties matter on D1?

That post was horrible

[shos]

[hint: the aim is to find and lynch scum]
[hint: it won't, you will just try to find scum and lynch them regardless of how many]
[hint: it won't, maybe only after youve lynched at least 1 scum or are in mylo/lylo]

In case it wasnt clear

[TierShift]

If you don't know if there is a scumteam or only 3rd parties, or if you don't know if you're hunting for a 2 or 3 man scumteam, I can believe you feel aimless, yes.

I feel pretty aimless too here

[Radical Rat]

So I think we can presume 1 of 2 things:

Either chariman votes don't count or the game requires more than majority votes to lynch.

I'm thinking it's the former more than the latter.

We can presume nothing of the sort until we are another VC.

[Radical Rat]

So I think we can presume 1 of 2 things:

Either chariman votes don't count or the game requires more than majority votes to lynch.

I'm thinking it's the former more than the latter.

We can presume nothing of the sort until we see another VC.

Edit

[shos]

What
There has to be a scumteam. Otherwise it isnt mafia. And it is.

[karnos]

karnos also should not be lynched.

Why not? You want some more activity from me first, before lynching?

[Clumsy Phoenix]

RR has given us the teams. Focus on lynching scummy folks. Priority 1 should be gamma who has a scummy as fuck reaction to an rvs wagon.

[ironstove]

Is no one suspicious of the fact that RR seems to know how everything is setup? Maybe we should lynch him because I have no clue how he has all of this information and I don't, but I'm town, so he must be a 3rd party like the chairman.

Rule #16

[BTD6_maker]

The Chairman is not a third party.

On a completely unrelated note, I ISO'd Snarky and found that she had claimed Chairman, an infinite voter.

Rule #16

[karnos]

"This game has a distribution of 5:4:3:2:1"

5 vanilla town, 4 power role town, 3 mafia, 2 neutral, 1 serial killer.

[BTD6_maker]

Vanilla Town do not exist.

[Clumsy Phoenix]

"This game has a distribution of 5:4:3:2:1"

5 vanilla town, 4 power role town, 3 mafia, 2 neutral, 1 serial killer.

Do your math on those numbers. I told you there was a mod lie in the first post.

[Radical Rat]

Is no one suspicious of the fact that RR seems to know how everything is setup? Maybe we should lynch him because I have no clue how he has all of this information and I don't, but I'm town, so he must be a 3rd party like the chairman.

Knowing this information is a part of my specific role PM, and is not factional.

[Radical Rat]

The Chairman is not a third party.

On a completely unrelated note, I ISO'd Snarky and found that she had claimed Chairman, an infinite voter.

I have in my Role PM a statement implying that it IS a third party.

[Radical Rat]

Vanilla Town do not exist.

We don't know that. Perhaps the VT PM is just worded differently from the sample.

[Clumsy Phoenix]

Have you considered that in the actual card game, veteran players know some of the rules, and RR may be a "veteran player" who is given information on the game at the start?

[FaerieLord]

I have no idea in what world your last post is pro-town, Clumsy Phoenix.

I'm still really happy with my vote on karnos to be honest, considering he just reemerged from nowhere just to doubt tier's claim of his innocence. I'm always a bit suspicious of people who attack people for calling them innocent, always feels like they have something to prove.

I'd also really like to see the mod approved vote count at the top sometime soon.

Also, one final note, this wagon on Mas Y Menos, especially if it ends up being a yolo lynch, was a little bit (really) dumb. They're either 1) frustrating to play with 2) trying to die 3) trying to break to setup in the stupidest way possible - none of these are inherently scummy.

[123456789]

Like shos's case: VOTE: Ironstove

[Suzune]

Now that I think about it... Votecounts never actually listed how many until lynch... They may not be lynched. We'll have to see.

Are you suggesting that they could be votes for something else?

[Suzune]

This game feels pretty aimless and confusing considering we don't even know if how many mafia teams or 3rd parties are in the game (if any) so it completely throws off your ability to understand what the correct way to play is.

Well like any other bastard set up everyone just plays to their win condition. The trick is to figure out who is on the same side as you. But since it has the potential to be super bastard then even the role pms could be fake. I guess, the fun is just playing. Why does this worry you so much? Does it change the way you play or think?

VOTE: Ironstove

[Radical Rat]

Ironstove's confusion seems genuine to me.
I don't like this wagon one bit.