In post 693, GreyICE wrote:So early on Victor was getting significant pressure. A feud with GoodMorning, several votes, people pushing him, etc. He had to defend himself. Then it tapered off. What did Victor do? He tapered off. It's not like any of his comments were particularly insightful or probing earlier, but after the town read? He didn't try and sell a single person on voting GoodMorning. He just was happy to leave his vote there until the "oh gee, I guess I better join the wagon under duress".
I think the fact that Victor was more willing to leave GM than GM has been willing to leave her one vote on him show more townie cred than otherwise. He realized that GM wasn't going to happen a few people were town reading her, and he moved on. It wasn't like suspicion from him on your slot is out of the blue so switching there makes a lot more sense than say GM plowing along with her vote Victor while saying she is willing to vote either wagon. The vig stuff could easliy, yet again, be another issue on play style. I really don't find that scummy. At that point why would he suggest a vig shoot GM anyway? It's clear he has no support there anyway.
In post 694, goodmorning wrote:@Sotty: I disagree, as is probably obvious. I'm not really looking to have an argument about it and wouldn't have even bothered posting any of that had I not been directly asked. I've been pretty averse to pushing weakish wagons on players who are probably better than me since NY169.
Okay. Lets try this then. You're the only vote on Victor, what would you say would be the most compelling reason that he is scum. The entrance into the game point you made I don't agree with. He's moved on from interacting with Hoopla. What about his other stances makes him scum? Did you think his BBT/Grey vote was scummy?
I'm happy with Maria being town at this point.
In post 746, I Am Innocent wrote:Jack is a really good vote that hoopla, maria, blackvoid, myself have all expressed suspicion of...yet votes victor.
When GI flips scum jack is next.
I was getting ready to switch to Jaack but Grey's vote on Victor stops that dead in it's tracks. I'm staying right were I am.
In post 754, Jaack wrote:This feels contradictory. Her case on BBT was a good part meta, but after Rask sort of argues against that (209), sotty wants to simultaneously drop discussion of BBT's meta while also getting Rask to vote?
I asked Rask's opionon of my BBT meta which was from awhile back. She said I was wrong I said okay, let me wait for BBT to post more and we can take it from there. Nothing contradictory.
In post 754, Jaack wrote:But in that interim, she does very little to push on that TwoFace vote.
Okay that's just blatantly untrue. I push Twoface hard and we have an extensive back and forth that could have easily became a death tunnel. I am interacting and questioning twoface who starts off answering me and then just really falls back to insulting and taking pot shots at me. I pushed his voting behavior, I asked him for several reads a couple of pages back that he still hasn't provided. What would you consider "pushing a scum read"? Vote them then disappear for several pages and never interacting or questioning them again like you have been doing with me?
