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Post Post #3550 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:04 am

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Faye : Men are such idiots.


Vote Count 2.26Skrub (9): Nosferatu , Albert B. Rampage , Cerberus v666 , Mirhawk , randomidget , Skrub , Aristophanes , kraska77 , Vaxkiller
The Ascended Masters (7): Nero Cain , Vedith , pisskop , SirCakez , Panzerjager , Expedience , davesaz
kraska77 (3): MathBlade , Varsoon , Radical Rat
Mirhawk (2): The Ascended Masters , PeregrineV
Expedience (1): Klingoncelt
MathBlade (1): DiamondSentinel
Radical Rat (1): SpyreX
Vaxkiller (1): Killthestory
Nosferatu (1): mhsmith0

Not Voting (2): RachMarie , Drixx


With 28 players alive it takes 15 votes to lynch.

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Post Post #3551 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:53 am

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In post 3547, Expedience wrote:Also, tell Nosferatu to change his avatar. Really not doing him any favors.
did you just assume my gender?
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Post Post #3552 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:57 am

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In post 3550, Frozen Angel wrote:Expedience (1): Klingoncelt
MathBlade (1): DiamondSentinel
Radical Rat (1): SpyreX
Vaxkiller (1): Killthestory
Nosferatu (1): mhsmith0
none of these wagons are going to happen today and each one of these should prob die in the near future.
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Post Post #3553 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:58 am

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In post 3551, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 3547, Expedience wrote:Also, tell Nosferatu to change his avatar. Really not doing him any favors.
did you just assume my gender?
I'd have to say if you don't choose to use the pronoun option, everyone else is welcome to assume whatever they'd like about your gender.


@exp: the wagons should die? The ones being wagoned? The vanity wagon voters?
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Post Post #3554 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:00 am

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In post 3550, Frozen Angel wrote:kraska77 (3): MathBlade , Varsoon , Radical Rat
Mirhawk (2): The Ascended Masters , PeregrineV
these wagons also will likely not happen and I'm not really against lynching any of them either.

@Cerb who thinks I'm Exp-the vanity voters
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Post Post #3555 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:01 am

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@Mod - Exp is voting TAM
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #3556 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:05 am

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In post 3546, Expedience wrote:
In post 3525, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 3504, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 3503, Klingoncelt wrote:Okay, I need to know, are all of you Townreading Expedience?

He'd be a wonderful lynch.
Shit man, you want me to read a 200 post Iso and figure that out??

Tell me, why would they be a "wonderful lynch"?
He cleared some people with no explanation, and Scumread a bunch of players with only the word "fake" as a case. I was one of the "fake" reads.

Ari, you know me well enough to know that I don't do "fake" as either alignment. Meaning that Ex's read was itself fake.

Ex also said I claimed Scum, which is ridiculous, even if I were Scum I certainly wouldn't claim it. I told him at least twice to link to the post where I allegedly made the claim, he has as yet not done so, even though he read my posts containing the demands.

Read through my ISO, you'll find it.
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I'd strongly advise contacting a lawyer, not that it'll be much help.
This is quite the overreaction...
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Post Post #3557 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:06 am

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In post 3555, Vedith wrote:
@Mod - Exp is voting TAM
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Post Post #3558 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:08 am

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In post 3541, Expedience wrote:
In post 3411, Nero Cain wrote:Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:00 am<----when I made my TAM vote
Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:44 pm<---when I accused Cakez of avoiding this thread

Looking at his site activity I thought he was was on a lot sooner than he really was. So I'm willing to agree that this is an unintentional misrep. Though I think Exp is defending him for the town cred and knows he's at least not on his scum team.
"well i guess my post was completely invalid b-but you're still scum!!"
Do you think all "misreps" are from scum?
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In post 3237, Nero Cain wrote:lurking, strong armed a town lynch. Thats like Nacho scum meta.
@nero, cakey: both of you have basically made this point. Can you give a good example of nacho doing this in a relatively large game? Mini if needed but preferably a large of some sort. I'll look at comparable ISO when I have time, but I'm not motivated to go hunting through a bunch of games that may or may not even be relevant.
I'm not really going to slog through my games and find my game with Nacho where she, as scum, strong armed lynches, would lurk and then be active when ever she was a lynch canidate and then run back to the shadows when the heat would die down.
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Post Post #3559 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:32 am

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Vax are you fully caught up?
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Post Post #3560 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:42 am

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Hi. I'm sorry for overreacting before and self voting. Varsoon, you were right about me being a liability. I shouldn't have done that but h was just so frustrated because the wagon on me felt completely unjustified and I just wanted to give up. But it's not fair to you guys so I'm going to keep trying. If I still get lynches today then so be it. I'm seriously doubting my judgement right now so I'd appreciate it if you guys could lay out cases for your scumreads and convince me on where I should put my vote.

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Post Post #3561 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:52 am

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Just swing your vote on to TAM. It's your best bet for not being mislynch today #coachemup
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Post Post #3562 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:53 am

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In post 3554, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3550, Frozen Angel wrote:kraska77 (3): MathBlade , Varsoon , Radical Rat
Mirhawk (2): The Ascended Masters , PeregrineV
these wagons also will likely not happen and I'm not really against lynching any of them either.

@Cerb who thinks I'm Exp-the vanity voters
Lol sorry. Saw expedience at the top of that list and his name stuck in my head. :)
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Post Post #3563 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:11 am

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Post Post #3564 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:16 am

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In post 3563, Nero Cain wrote:What do you think of the vanity voters?
I think they need go choose a goddamned wagon!
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Post Post #3565 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:20 am

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Bullets. Or clockwork orange style torture so they don't make these days last the whole 2 weeks :(
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Post Post #3566 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:35 am

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Post Post #3567 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:42 am

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In post 3565, PJ. wrote:Bullets. Or clockwork orange style torture so they don't make these days last the whole 2 weeks :(
I mean, there's a definite possibility of scum among them. But that would insinuate that the current 2 large wagons contain a scum member as well. So I think we should lynch one of these two today and the other tomorrow if we get a town flip. Then look into the vanity voters afterwards as we should have a decent amount of info and interactions to analyze.

How's that?
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Post Post #3568 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:45 am

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In post 3435, DiamondSentinel wrote:I dunno. It's fairly diverse. You've got your "obey the rules all the time" character in Jet, the "I'm just in it for the money" character in Faye, and then Spike is your typical "I'm just doing stuff because that's cool" protagonist.

And then there's Ed. She's a roller coaster. At first, she was introduced as a fairly important character, and then she become comic relief for a good half of the series, and then she's finally starting to get some decent screen-time. I hope. I'm just at episode 19.
In post 3436, DiamondSentinel wrote:I will say that's my biggest problem with it.

Ed had massive potential to be an amazing character and then they just made her a comic relief character with very little point for a while.
The point is you have about 3 or 4 superb main characters in the crew, whereas Firefly had like 8, which didn't feel like too much.
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Post Post #3569 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:52 am

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In post 3490, The Ascended Masters wrote:And somehow someway it's already past my bedtime.

In my heart I want bullets to Nosferatu, I want bullets to mhsmith0, I want bullets to Kraska, I want bullets to randomidget.
Nosferatu hasn't done jack shit will never do jack shit. The part that flips it to a scumread is when they do attempt to scumhunt or do weird scumhunty things it reeks of bullshit; I'd imagine town at that level of no fucks given would probably just replace out or do nothing but troll. Mhsmith0 doesn't feel like the big strong mhsmith0 I needed this game. Kraska self-voting and being like "I need to die" and then suddenly dropping it and shifting to troll mode is kind of crazy. Randomidget's switch on Skrub seems weird. I skimmed Skrub's game in whatever great idea variant was in his Micro games list, was intrigued, will follow up in the future.
I know it looked weird tbh. Th thing is, I was never town reading skrub. I just didn't see any reason that people were scumreading him.
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In post 3434, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 3355, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 3354, DiamondSentinel wrote:Cowboy Bebop is definitely not porn. It's like Firefly but better.
This is the best review I've ever seen for anything!

If this is true, I'll now make an effort to actually watch it!
I would put it on par tbh. It lacks the diversity of main characters in terms of 'the crew' Firefly has, but it is superbly written and has a better soundtrack (main theme to Firefly is still superb). They are really similar, to slightly different things better and overall are both superb. If you like Firefly you will 100% like Cowboy Bebop
Still works! I'll add it to my things I'll actually get around to one day! :)

Also, I just Iso'd you, and you have been more active. I'd like to know what you disliked about Skrub's readslist that made you vote him after trying so hard to get someone to explain the wagon with no positive results there. It just seems a weird flip on your part.
His scum reads were so horrifically easy. Literally the three easiest people for him to scumread in the game who were either arguing him or wouldn't push back. It's what I would do if I was trying to appease people and was panicking as scum.
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Post Post #3570 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:52 am

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In post 3567, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 3565, PJ. wrote:Bullets. Or clockwork orange style torture so they don't make these days last the whole 2 weeks :(
I mean, there's a definite possibility of scum among them. But that would insinuate that the current 2 large wagons contain a scum member as well. So I think we should lynch one of these two today and the other tomorrow if we get a town flip. Then look into the vanity voters afterwards as we should have a decent amount of info and interactions to analyze.

How's that?

No torture?
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Post Post #3571 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:54 am

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In post 3563, Nero Cain wrote:What do you think of the vanity voters?
I don't.
If I were reading every poat and trying REALLY REALLY HARD to figure things out like normal, I'd be irritated at them because the day has clearly stalled and nothing is happening now, and I'd tell them they should all join forces and make a third wagon if they don't like the current two, so at least we'll have more interesting data to look back on in the future.
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Post Post #3572 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:55 am

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In post 3570, PJ. wrote:No torture?
Okay fine, you can torture.

Just make sure you do it well! No half-assed torture will be permitted!
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Post Post #3573 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:57 am

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@Random,
That's cool. Once again, I like it! I just needed to know where you were coming from with it. :)
Let's Skrub out the Scum in this game!

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Post Post #3574 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:10 am

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Aristo, can you explain your read on me? I'm just wondering how you went from not having any strong feelings about me...
In post 3003, Aristophanes wrote:I'd consider Skrub, but I don't have a solid enough place here yet to make a proper case on anyone.
I can work on that though. I'm happy to just wagon atm.

Oggh, ninjas.
In post 3298, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 3250, MathBlade wrote:Scrub claimed VT.

We should be lynching Kraska.
Meh, I'd rather support a wagon that could actually happen. And VT claims are fine for lynches imo.

VOTE: Skrub
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In post 3507, Vaxkiller wrote:@Vedith

I don't see TAM scum here, but I disagree with you about Skrub,

@TAM, I just ended a game with him as scum. He played well, but I'm seeing similar patterns from him when he starts to get votes.

VOTE: Skrub
Worst Ideas meta?

Is that really a good idea?
... to suddenly being sure that I'm scum.
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