Micro 649: Normal Idea Mafia (Game Over)

[Leonshade]

I have realized something important though. Because there's a protective, it may be better to lynch today as that gets the most value from a potential save.
Correct lynch + save = tomorrow isn't even mylo, it comes back into a "safe" game with 1 scum out of 5 people.
Mistake lynch + save = tomorrow is lylo and there's another chance.

And if we mislynch and don't get the save, we lose. We might mislynch the protective, or force them to claim. And even if we don't, the scum is going to be looking for the protective. If we mislynch, there's three town left, so scum has a 1/3 chance to hit the protective. And since scum has knowledge of who the protective protected, it's not just going to come down to random chance. There's some other variables here, such as what kind of protective we have, who they targeted etc. but basically scum have a way better chance of NKing than the protective has of getting the correct target again.

So no, we should not lynch today, and I don't like the fact that you're trying us to get to do so.

[Leonshade]

You've softed an investigative, will you be able to get another result N3?

[Heartache]

If I'm alive.

[McMenno]

you will be

[Heartache]

That's a scumclaim.

Mcmenno is saying he's in control of who get's NK'd which is only true if he's scum here.

[McMenno]

what a fucking joke

[Leonshade]

That's not a scumclaim. That's not a scumclaim at all.

Both of my top scumreads (Heartache, Sgz13) have acted scummy today and are townreading each other for bad/vague reasons. Is the game solved? Feels too easy.

[Heartache]

It is a scumclaim. Do you know what he's implying there?
Have you thought things through?

Think about why town would say that, then think about why scum would say that.

[Heartache]

I get the feeling you haven't actually been reading mcmenno this game, you said it was your weakest read but your actions follow the assumption he is town.

[Heartache]

You've softed an investigative, will you be able to get another result N3?

Also this is kind of fishy to be honest.

[Leonshade]

McMenno was obviously implying that you're scum, or at least scummy enough that scum would want to save you for LYLO. You're grasping at straws here.

I asked that because the setup has one-shot roles etc. I was originally going to say "shouldn't you be happy to get another result N3" but then I realized that you might not get another result, so I decided to ask.

[Leonshade]

I'm not going to comment on my townreads anymore.

[Heartache]

Interesting.

[Sgz13]

That's a scumclaim.

Mcmenno is saying he's in control of who get's NK'd which is only true if he's scum here.

No, just no.

I'm not wrong about you am I?

[Heartache]

Okay so this is why I see it as a scumclaim. He looks like he's softing protective to me, but I absolutely know that's not the case.

I saw it as a crumb that he gave with the plan of using it to counterclaim the real protective next day.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait. How are you sure he's not the protective?

[Sgz13]

This is terrible thought. I never see him actually explain any reads, and even when asked last night he just flicked around.

380 - There's nothing to back any of these reads, even Heart.

Meh. Can we have Tere back please?

Can we vote for no lynch on MS or do we have to wait until the day is over?

[Sgz13]

Okay so this is why I see it as a scumclaim. He looks like he's softing protective to me, but I absolutely know that's not the case.

I saw it as a crumb that he gave with the plan of using it to counterclaim the real protective next day.

Sure, he's gonna protect his 2nd biggest scum read.

[Gamma Emerald]

We can vote for no lynch yeah.

[Sgz13]

I want a Heart full claim now tbh.

[Leonshade]

Okay so this is why I see it as a scumclaim. He looks like he's softing protective to me,

but I absolutely know that's not the case.

I saw it as a crumb that he gave with the plan of using it to counterclaim the real protective next day.

Explain.

[Heartache]

Alright, apparently literally no one else sees it...

If I'm alive.

you will be

It's not supposed to be even directed at me really, that doesn't really accomplish anything.
It's that, come tomorrow if I'm alive he gets an easy claim of protective based on this crumb. To potentially CC the real protective and avoid having people confirmed as town.

I can understand missing it if you townread the slot though... I guess he could have said it based on what he said earlier about leonshade being the nk "for sure", but there isn't that much point of saying this then.

[Heartache]

Lol, literally no one townreads me and we're going to no-lynch into lylo. Fantastic.

[Sgz13]

#521 makes no sense. He's been claiming to scum read you all game, so why would he protect you? Nobody would believe that, hence the whole plan is flawed.

[Heartache]

His reads are more like "I'll lynch anyone who isn't leonshade".