Micro 649: Normal Idea Mafia (Game Over)

[Sgz13]

Who are your scum reads Gamma?

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

I don't see a lot from heart being town. Humour me and go over it again.
Also confirm if you think scum chose to not night kill.

[Sgz13]

I'm working on the assumption we have a protective or at least a BP.

[Gamma Emerald]

My reads...IDK RN. I was so sure BYF was scum my reads are all very outdated and I haven't worked to fix them yet.

[Sgz13]

I'll look over the posts tonight. First 2 reads the only suspicion came from Reso though, and the little call for a massclaim from Heartache, but I'm willing to forgive one little post.

[Sgz13]

I can't stop changing my mind on Gamma.

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

Okay... so you think in 9 player game town have a 1 shot cop, a Bodyguard, an investigating role and another protective or BP role?
If you truly believed that they chose to not night kill then you would not have heart as town so easily.

With a dead Bodyguard scum lack little motive to no kill as it shows that it's most likely the only protective.

This is why you're scum for a start and this is why heart is your buddy.

The push on Gamma from heart is too fake and forced and the "soft investigator" claim is an obvious lie. If really town then heart would want to give scum a chance to fake claim instead, builds up an obvious play of "I claimed first let's lynch the counter claim as it's MYLO and they gain more from lying".

Gamma push was the back up plan and the no kill (yes scum chose to night kill) was a backup plan to a no lynch today to claim the BP in LYLO.

[Sgz13]

Have you looked at the setup generation?

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

It was a prank bro!
I read it as normal game.

[Sgz13]

What?

[Sgz13]

You do realise your scum two is based on scum coming up with a weird plan and two other backup plans to the original far fetched plan right?

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

So it's a power heavy game.
I guess that changes a lot then.

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

You do realise your scum two is based on scum coming up with a weird plan and two other backup plans to the original far fetched plan right?

If this was just a normal I'd be spot on.

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

Maybe Heart is town then.
I'll re look over the iso but I feel the point on Gamma from heart will stand.

[Heartache]

Welcome 1svt.
Why do you scumread sgz?

Also, if you think my scumreads are wrong, can you please say why you think that is. Thanks.

[Heartache]

It seems like a lot of your thinking was before you caught the setup, actually same thing happened to me a little when I replaced in.

[Leonshade]

I was debating spelling out what the setup is, but I thought "setup gen is in the OP" would be enough. It's never enough.

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

I always jump the gun!
Concerning sgz, he just seems to be voicing from afar, going with what ever flow he can.

Scum is 2 out of Leon/Gamma/McMenno. At that time, I couldn't really see how Gamma was the town one of the 3. I think I can now, so not really selling. Leon has overtaken him now.

This is terrible thought. I never see him actually explain any reads, and even when asked last night he just flicked around.

380 - There's nothing to back any of these reads, even Heart.
Always seems happy to lynch where others are, but never actually puts down a vote.

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

Also, if you think my scumreads are wrong, can you please say why you think that is. Thanks.

This was more due to setup.
Originally I was disliking Gamma from day 1, but after reading your page by page level of scum or whatever it was I instantly disliked your entrance.
You say that it doesn't make sense that Gamma pushed with you, but yet why doesn't it? If your thought process was that BYF was scum, then why not his?

McMenno is a town read from meta mainly. He looks pretty scummy in most games he plays to be fair.
I just don't feel scummy on him in this game.

Leo, I'm stumped on. His comment wasn't a slip at all. I need to read him over again but I don't think I've ever read him properly.
448 - Looks more scummy that joke concerning this too.

@Heart - Why did you decide to say you have an investigating role and request a mass claim without others agreeing?
It does look more like hasty town...

[Gamma Emerald]

Half assed reads list because I don't care to actually reread, town to scum:
Leon
McMenno
1SVT
Heartache
Sgz13
Don't expect much from me today.

[Heartache]

@Heart - Why did you decide to say you have an investigating role and request a mass claim without others agreeing?
It does look more like hasty town...

Massclaim is standard in normal setups, and optimal play too. Often done pre-lylo/mylo even, as it gives a night to check and root out false claims.
But this setup is different and I don't have no clue what should be done here, no counterclaims obviously changes things. I was hoping I could catch someone in a lie, but now I doubt it's worth outing all town power for that chance. Also the problem that people don't trust me enough to lateclaim, yet doing so early obviously defeats the purpose.

I have realized something important though. Because there's a protective, it may be better to lynch today as that gets the most value from a potential save.
Correct lynch + save = tomorrow isn't even mylo, it comes back into a "safe" game with 1 scum out of 5 people.
Mistake lynch + save = tomorrow is lylo and there's another chance.

[Heartache]

Gamma emerald does not appear to push on his scumreads, where if he were town he should.

[Gamma Emerald]

That's actually why I scumread Sgz his only push I remember was on me and that was a dumb vote so w/e.

[Heartache]

Gamma

emerald does not appear to push on his scumreads, where if

he

were town he

should

.

Was not talking about sgz.

[Gamma Emerald]

Excuse me I understand that am I not allow to make statements related to what you say?