Fine, fuck it I will quote my own ISO because apparently you refuse to read it before throwing out posts.
In post 1968, Grendel wrote:
Shouting into the void=/=proactively trying to convince people that Penguin is best wagon.
Well, then. Let's go look at the places where I talked to people specifically.
534 Here's D1 where I talked to Dierfire about it.
1602 - I specifically told LUV he was top scum, right after my initial explanation of the read (
1592)
1616 - I talked to Boring about it.
1621 /
1624 /
1639 - I engaged Gamma about it.
1650 /
1656 /
1658 - I talked to Implosion about my case.
1752 - This was kinda in response to a question about me, but I took the opportunity to talk to NN about my Penguin case and why I was okay voting him.
1810 - I talked to Boring about my scum read.
1870 - I reiterated to Boring that I wasn't going to vote Gamma, and was voting Penguin and that she / others should join me there.
1874 - I advocated to you why I thought Penguin was scum.
In post 1968, Grendel wrote:
Telling Eager that he needs to act more town+ once again shouting into the void=/= trying to reason directly with the people on Eager's wagon.
How many time did you directly talk to anybody by name when doing your convincing?
*sigh*
Okay, let's just cite. Here's Eager.
192 - I told SS I town leaned the slot.
199 - I told Boring I was okay with how Eager played his claim and how the line of questioning on him was invalid.
1132 - After a bunch of talking to Eager about his reads and motivations, here I responded to Penguin and explained why I thought Eager's line of play didn't make sense as scum.
1192 - I told you that ignoring setup meta re: Eager was a good idea.
The thread got into a bit of a lull, so around
1441 I rambled a bit, then wandered off into Narnia trying to scum hunt boring or for an alternative train. Maria was basically repeating my point and quoting my post about scum never pre-claiming Ascetic, so I didn't feel much need to individually reiterate that read.
I specifically asked Prism not to swing the hammer in
1509 because I was still trying to find a lynch I liked better than Eager. Then he got hammered by LUV.
And here's Gamma:
323 - I tell Penguin that I think Gamma is town and explain my read.
341 - I talk with Implosion about my Gamma town read, and explain why I think it's right and that he is wrong to scumread Gamma.
527 - I tell you that I think Gamma is town.
578 - I told NN30 I thought Gamma was town.
1852 - I told you again that I think Gamma is town.
1862 - I argued with you some more, repeating that I think Gamma is town.
1863 - I explained to Boring why I thought your argument about Gamma being scum was invalid.
1868 - I told you some more that Gamma was likely town.
So. Yeah. You're seeing what you want, not what actually is. Which blows my mind that you can magically forgot how much I was arguing with *you specifically* that your meta read on Gamma wasn't great and that Penguin was scum, but that's where we are.