The real folk blues [Canceled]

[Frozen Angel]

Andy: Aww shit...
Spike: *Gasps* I told you he was Teddy Bomber you idiot!

Vote Count 2.8

Skrub (4): pisskop , Nosferatu , Albert B. Rampage , kraska77
Mirhawk (3): DrippingGoofball , The Ascended Masters , Skrub
kraska77 (2): MathBlade , Aristophanes
The Ascended Masters (2): SirCakez , Nero Cain
RachMarie (1): Road Kamelot
DiamondSentinel (1): Vedith
Cerberus v666 (1): DiamondSentinel
Expedience (1): randomidget
Nero Cain (1): Expedience

Not Voting (12): Space Dandy , Mirhawk , RachMarie , PeregrineV , davesaz , mhsmith0 , Drixx , Killthestory , Cerberus v666 , SpyreX , Panzerjager , Klingoncelt

With 28 players alive it takes 15 votes to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-11-02 21:10:00)

[pisskop]

[pisskop]

HEY YOU EDITED YOUR POST

[Vedith]

vedith is off. like i said, he dodged the whole zanos thing yesterday, and he did the same to the whole vifam kill drama today. he doesnt have anything to say when it comes to the most controversial wagons. i think he's scum

I can't be scum.
However, Diamond and Cakez can be.
Happy for a lynch on either.

Also your argument here is "didn't vote town, he's scum". GTFO.

[kraska77]

no my argument is u didnt acknowledge the existence of that wagon. stopp pretending to be obtuse and twisting my words
you didnt have a stance on the zanos wagon. like there were people who said they were town, there were people who said they were scum and then there's you
i would give you leeway if it looked like you were just behind on stuff but it looked like u were keeping up just fine, you just didnt have anything to say on the main events of today or yesterday

[davesaz]

Kraska, the content of your post doesn't match the vote.

huh why not?

Disregard, I read it wrong.

[davesaz]

I'm seeing Vedith posting things that are commentary on the wagons, but it's once removed. He made comments about the people voting on the wagons, vs. comments on the wagons themselves.
It is pretty shallow though.

[pisskop]

You leave captain crunch alone

[pisskop]

Davesaz, I need you to vote skrublord

[davesaz]

I don't remember, have you given an actual reason?

[pisskop]

thats not a response thats sidestepping the discussion.

this isnt the huggy feeling club. this isnt differing opinions. this is objective fact.

If you're gonna make such a big deal about it then I'll vote mirhawk.

VOTE: mirhawk

I don't get what the big deal was. It still makes more sense to me to do it the other way around, but whatever

This seems pretty appeasy and unnecessary.

[pisskop]

We need you.

ftr I too felt like that mirhawk vote was forced. Can you say buddies?

[pisskop]

*snark*

[DiamondSentinel]

vedith is off. like i said, he dodged the whole zanos thing yesterday, and he did the same to the whole vifam kill drama today. he doesnt have anything to say when it comes to the most controversial wagons. i think he's scum

I can't be scum.
However, Diamond and Cakez can be.
Happy for a lynch on either.

Also your argument here is "didn't vote town, he's scum". GTFO.

Please, list your ridiculous reasons why I'm scum.

I really need something to laugh at. The laugh I got from the debate has worn off.

[Skrub]

People saying that Moz was a counter wagon, that's dumb. People moved off of my wagon and onto that one because we had

light image reasons

to scumread them. They were scummy as hell.

What does the underlined mean?

Legitimate reasons

People saying that Moz was a counter wagon, that's dumb. People moved off of my wagon and onto that one because we had light image reasons to scumread them. They were scummy as hell.

do a reads list pls

Ok. You too

also skrub who are you voting rn? who are you down to lynch today?

I'm voting mirhawk. I'm down to lynch him or you.

[Cerberus v666]

Random, why are you in all my games all the time?

low key stalking

VOTE: Expedience
Protection of Cakez feels really odd.

I didn't even defend him. I was clarifying a misunderstanding and then I realized Nero was scum.

You are going after anyone who goes after Cakez.

I agree with Cerb's theory crafting.
Kraska is probs town.
Nero could be scum.

But I think you're always signed up first. That's some prescient fucking stalking there.

[DiamondSentinel]

vedith is off. like i said, he dodged the whole zanos thing yesterday, and he did the same to the whole vifam kill drama today. he doesnt have anything to say when it comes to the most controversial wagons. i think he's scum

VOTE: skrub

I hear posturing. Do you hear that? I most certainly do.

His downright refusal to make more content, his "I wasn't going to get on a town wagon", and his complete and utter lack of reasons for Nero and my scumreads makes me think that he's a scum that knew zanos was town, and was trying to be attached to a town lynch, as well as one who wants to avoid saying anything that could potentially be used against him later.

VOTE: Vedith

PEdit: Then you're the stalker, Cerb.

[Cerberus v666]

no my argument is u didnt acknowledge the existence of that wagon. stopp pretending to be obtuse and twisting my words
you didnt have a stance on the zanos wagon. like there were people who said they were town, there were people who said they were scum and then there's you
i would give you leeway if it looked like you were just behind on stuff but it looked like u were keeping up just fine, you just didnt have anything to say on the main events of today or yesterday

Why is this a problem from Vedith but not from me?

[davesaz]

People saying that Moz was a counter wagon, that's dumb. People moved off of my wagon and onto that one because we had

light image reasons

to scumread them. They were scummy as hell.

What does the underlined mean?

Legitimate reasons

You mean those things I've been asking for and not getting replies about?
Specific. Quotable. Reasons. Not merely "scummy as hell".
If you can't provide evidence, then it's not legitimate.

[Cerberus v666]

DS: but I know I'm not!!!! I never check playerlists before I sign up for games! I only care about moderators and themes.

[Skrub]

People saying that Moz was a counter wagon, that's dumb. People moved off of my wagon and onto that one because we had

light image reasons

to scumread them. They were scummy as hell.

What does the underlined mean?

Legitimate reasons

You mean those things I've been asking for and not getting replies about?
Specific. Quotable. Reasons. Not merely "scummy as hell".
If you can't provide evidence, then it's not legitimate.

We have plenty of reasons back then. Were you not reading?

[DiamondSentinel]

People saying that Moz was a counter wagon, that's dumb. People moved off of my wagon and onto that one because we had

light image reasons

to scumread them. They were scummy as hell.

What does the underlined mean?

Legitimate reasons

If you can't provide evidence, then it's not legitimate.

Sorry to disappoint you, but that's not true. Human intuition works predominantly in the subconsciousness, so you can "feel" a certain thing without being able to explain it. C'est a dire, just because someone can't explain why they think what they are thinking doesn't mean it's not a valid thought process.

Granted, I'm not saying that you should blindly follow every intuitive "feeling" you have, but it's worth giving them (and other peoples') credence.

PEdit: I call bullshit on that

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh, btw, what on earth are you and Skrub arguing about, davesaz. I was just embarking on a psychological/philosophical lecture without knowing the context. plz tell

[Skrub]

I think Sircakez and maker of zanos are scum. Especially maker. Nothing about him screams town to me.

VOTE: maker

I'm still not sure why there's a wagon on me, but if you guys have any questions for me I'll answer all of them. This weekend has been much busier than I expected but I'll finally be able to be more active tonight.

Sure. He's wagon hopping like crazy, and when the wagon formed on him he tried way too hard to seem like he didn't care by self voting. But that just made him seem more desperate. Plus he made this horrible post earlier

Actually though, you should probably unvote me.

I'm going to bed before I dig my hole any deeper, its literally 4am here

Worried that you will be lynched so early?

A bit, in large games once a wagon forms on you its difficult to get it off.

seriously tho enuff
lets focus on expedience and spyrex
whaddup expedience got any reads?

Hey, my reads are:
mhsmith0: town
nc: scum

I liked mhsmith0's posts, he seems relaxed and town

NC's entrance was kinda feeble / strained. He doesn't really think House and I are scum together I'm sure, even if he is town.

House / rb are unreadable to me atm.

Everyone else didn't do enough to tell

You feel overanalytical.

~Zanos

PS: BTD6 is either ~BTD6 or ~Maker; I am pretty much everything else.

How did you get overly analytical from that? My reads had pretty simple explanations.

Alright, thanks for actually telling me.

Perhaps questionably obtained reads would've been a better choice. This thread is a mess of ****posting so I don't see where you get so many reads from unless you are scum.

Pedit: I'm good w/ an EXP wagon.
VOTE: Expedience

also this is scum

i thought the same until i realized this was lynchbait that scum would jump on

His reasoning is obviously fake trying to find excuses to join my wagon.

That should be a red flag for your read being wrong on me, not the other way around.

What is this? An OMGUS cuz I voted you? Trust me, I've made worse reads & votes before.
~Zanos

VOTE: Skrub

You seem to not like votes on yourself with little justification. You voted us with little justification yourself. I am not entirely sure whether you genuinely scumread us or are looking for reasons to vote us to push our wagon. Ircher mentioned in the PT that Town need to look for genuine scumminess, be more open minded, and stop voting us for reasons that don't hold water.

I will analyse Skrub more later when I have more time but I already scumread this slot and this vote is better than nothing.

~Maker

This is weak sauce. The fact that you said you need to analyze me later implied that you voted me without even reading my posts. And then you said this vote is "better than nothing" which feels like you don't even really believe that I'm scum. This guy needs to be lynched.

I have skimmed your posts and got a scumread. By analysing I mean analysing in more depth. Notice I said "analyse Skrub

more

".
It is better than nothing as voting a scumread is better than not voting at all. I will wait for my other head's opinion on the matter. Your post is a very weak rebuttal.

~Maker

You gave a weak post without any real content. It didn't give me much to reply to. What exactly did you scum read in my posts?

I am phone posting here. I may have time to go in depth tomorow. Here is the Skrub stuff I noticed.

I have skimmed your posts and got a scumread. By analysing I mean analysing in more depth. Notice I said "analyse Skrub

more

".
It is better than nothing as voting a scumread is better than not voting at all. I will wait for my other head's opinion on the matter. Your post is a very weak rebuttal.

~Maker

You gave a weak post without any real content. It didn't give me much to reply to. What exactly did you scum read in my posts?

It was more gut from your tone from just skimming your posts. Like I said, I will go into more detail when I explain in depth.

Skrub's vote on MoZ is so bad

What's bad about it?

Just seemed to me like you saw the wagon building up on you and just voted for the brand new counterwagon cuz you were in a shitty spot.


Why do you think SirCakez is scum

Nah, that's what maker did. I'll go in depth on my Cakez read later

I'll go in depth on my Skrub read later.

In all honesty, you accuse me of doing a lot of things that you do yourself. Your posts seem very like you voted the most popular wagon and attempted a justification. Vifam picked up on it and you are now accusing me.
At best, you are no better than me.

At worst, this is outright hypocrisy.

If something is scummy when I do it, it's scummy when you do it. You are not somehow exempt from being scumread by your own tells.

~Maker

I didn't vote you because you were a popular wagon though. I voted you because your posts are scummy as hell. So its not outright hypocrisy, its me calling you out on bullshit. And I like how you admitted in the next sentence that you only voted me because I'm a popular wagon and that you tried to justify it. Thanks for letting us all know that you don't really have a scum read on me.

I said that from your perspective I am voting you because you are the most popular wagon. That is the way you see it. If you have a scumread on me for that, you must also accept that I can have a genuine scum read on you for voting the most popular wagon. Also, I said "at worst". I do not know whether you genuinely scumread me (I'm not telepathic) but I know I genuinely scumread you. You are free to cast shade on that but if you do then you must also accept that others can have genuine suspicions about your read on me.

Your case is slowly degrading into outright misrep.

~Maker

I am phone posting here. I may have time to go in depth tomorow. Here is the Skrub stuff I noticed.

I have skimmed your posts and got a scumread. By analysing I mean analysing in more depth. Notice I said "analyse Skrub

more

".
It is better than nothing as voting a scumread is better than not voting at all. I will wait for my other head's opinion on the matter. Your post is a very weak rebuttal.

~Maker

You gave a weak post without any real content. It didn't give me much to reply to. What exactly did you scum read in my posts?

It was more gut from your tone from just skimming your posts. Like I said, I will go into more detail when I explain in depth.

Skrub's vote on MoZ is so bad

What's bad about it?

Just seemed to me like you saw the wagon building up on you and just voted for the brand new counterwagon cuz you were in a shitty spot.


Why do you think SirCakez is scum

Nah, that's what maker did. I'll go in depth on my Cakez read later

I'll go in depth on my Skrub read later.

In all honesty, you accuse me of doing a lot of things that you do yourself.

Your posts seem very like you voted the most popular wagon and attempted a justification.

Vifam picked up on it and you are now accusing me.
At best, you are no better than me. At worst, this is outright hypocrisy.

If something is scummy when I do it, it's scummy when you do it

. You are not somehow exempt from being scumread by your own tells.

~Maker

How did I misrep you?

@Maker That's one of the weakest "cases" I've ever seen. You just said that you think my posts are generic. That's not inherently scummy and its not like there's much I can say to defend myself. I don't think my posts have been generic and I'm sure you'll say that in your opinion they look that way. All I can say to that is okay. That doesn't really invite any discussion and its a safe way of casting shade.

[DiamondSentinel]

@Skrub please spoiler that in the future. That was far too long.