Mini 532: Yaw's Split Open Mafia: (Game over)

[Drunken Piper]

I am here and ready too,
confirming, I do I do.

[Drunken Piper]

Vote Drunken Piper

Start Writing in Iambic Pentamiter or the vote stays!

Your pressure has been noted, and not ignored.
However, your random vote has not yet struck a chord.

A question to you, that you should ponder.
How far you willing to hold that vote, I wonder?

As for me random vote, I think it tis quite dandy.

Vote: Jex

, because dark side does not offer candy.

[Drunken Piper]

Hmmm, I'll go with my gut this time,

Vote: Drunken Piper

. If not enough evidence or I found (any) other person more scummy, I'll switch my vote >.>

Oh an easy wagon this early on page two.
Because a guy rhymes it must be a scum clue?

I wonder how far this will go and how long votes will stay.
I will not return to the game, until Monday.

[Drunken Piper]

I am back, I am back from the holidays.
Noted that I have been prodded and I am amazed
that the mod is not paying attention.
in my sig, and my last post I did mention
that I would be gone until tomorrow.
To catch up, time I must borrow.

Will post on Monday like I said before.
Sorry I can not offer any more.

[Drunken Piper]

A day late and a dollar short.
Reading to see what there is to report.

Oh an easy wagon this early on page two.
Because a guy rhymes it must be a scum clue?

Hmm, after a 2nd thought, not really, but you must be have 'some role', didn't know a good one or a bad one. I'll

Unvote

, still unsure which one for now.

I don’t have a role, that I be claiming.
Just how I do things, the way I be gaming.

Mass claiming at this point I am against.
In this particular set up, it only helps mafia, or am I being dense?

Huh? Where? Zhao, you phail...

Don't worry, because of my "goon" status, he's willing to let me off the hook for suggesting him and Sensfan are in chahoots.

Zhao has entered being very aggressive.
Think it could be good for the game, and not yet excessive.
Of course the past couple pages he has been mute.
maybe he got insulted and decided to take a different route.

I think Phate’s plan, will work if we are lucky at night.
I couple unlucky NKs, and the plan will be full of blight.
The merits of it, will have to be noted on Day two.

Too much discussion about it today, will only help the scum crew.

Also can we please stop directing the doc.
More helpful information, for the scum flock.

I think today we NOW need to focus on lynching scum,
or victim to a scum win, we will succumb.

Vote Count:
Drunken Piper (2): Thanatos, SensFan

MOD

again you have missed something in the thread.
Sensfan unvoted, his random vote he shed.

Fixed

i closed my eyes and pointed to the screen

vote Korran

, for this is all you have added to this game.
Your participation is low and lame.
Please do comment on current events,
or maybe just provide your two cents.

[Drunken Piper]

Korran seems to have dissapeared from the site. Looking for one now. Will check with someone who offered to replace after the original batch was found before posting in the replacement quene.

this the mod wrote
this, I must

unvote.

[Drunken Piper]

Vote: Drunken Piper

A little witty banter in the random stage is one thing, but now it looks like he is trying to detract conversation and/or try to avoid having to put any real information in his posts.

again, i have provided much more content than many others.
your vote is sad much like Sally Struthers.

Is that the only reason you can come up with to place that vote,
or is there something else possibly you could note?

[Drunken Piper]

Wow oh wow, I got my prod.
Seems like I am not posting enough for the mod.

Jex (1): Drunken Piper

Again, I do not mean to dis.
But my unvote you again seem to miss.

Korlash’s question to the mod means not much,
Seems scummy to attack, and rely on that crutch.

I do not agree the RB is a danger to the town.
If used properly could help bring scum down.

this thought by no means, means Korlash is scummy.
maybe his reasoning is off, or just plan crummy.

I guess I'm confused about why you'd feel the RB was a danger to the town if it was on a townie.

Also,

FOS Korlash

for giving the scum an idea they may not have thought of should they happen to have the reopener or the switcher.

This Fos does not make a lick of sense.

Vote Quickben

, seems like someone trying to stretch to go on the offense.

[Drunken Piper]

Vote Count:
Zhao (3): SensFan, Holy, Off the Mark
Drunken Piper (1): Thanatos
Thantos (1): Phate
SensFan (1): Zhao
Off the Mark (1): Panzerjager
Phate (1): Korlash

Not Voting (4): kabenon007, QuickBen, Jex, DrunkenPiper

With 12 alive it is 7 to lynch.

This Fos does not make a lick of sense.

Vote Quickben

, seems like someone trying to stretch to go on the offense.

Quickben’s explanation did not address his faulty logic, I see.

unvote:
vote: Zhao

I get the feeling he's not being straight with us, that's all.

I understand SensFan and Holy's votes, but this feels so bandwagony.

Can you please explain their votes to me?

[Drunken Piper]

4 pages I need to read,
so that I might get up to speed.

Mainly because I don't consider my logic to be faulty.

I guess I'm confused about why you'd feel the RB was a danger to the town if it was on a townie.

Also,

FOS Korlash

for giving the scum an idea they may not have thought of should they happen to have the reopener or the switcher.

If he was scum, why would he mention to mafia in thread,
When he could just tell them when we all have gone to bed?

Anyway, back to the game... I have a list of players I trust at this point and players I am still not sure about. I'll share so we can see who agrees and who thinks I'm off my rocker:

Trust:
Phate
Korlash
kabenon (yes I know I suspected him, he's changed my mind)
Holy
SensFan
Drunken Piper

This might be personal thoughts, or feelings from the bust,
I question motivations behind people who post lists of who they trust.
Especially when they were not requested.
OTM why post them, for these answers need to be digested?

Oh yeah, I forgot about that game. Well, I wasn't completely acting like a townie there either, was I? Is that all you got as far as metareasons go? I am acting "between" a survivor and a godfather? Not sure how that even works... but anyway... I play a little differently in almost all my games. It depends on the other people I'm playing with, how much I'm suspected, experience level of the players, etc.

For my own curiosity, please define what it is to play townie.
Then if you can describe how you are playing, you get a brownie.

I really don't like it when people make comments like "I really think one of these two is scum and we should get rid of one of them asap." Its too easy for scum to pull that stuff and set up two townies who happen to be disagreeing for lynching. Being that the two in question seem to be two of our more prolific posters in here, it would also cripple discussion.

FOS Thanatos

I agree, I have to admit,
So an

unvote

you get.

I'm here, sorry for my absense.

OTM has been looking very bad recently, most notably where (As mentionned) he sets up a possible excuse for a Phate mis-lynch and in post 307 where he admits that his playstyle changes based on many factors, including suspicion level. This looks to me like he wants to be able to (hopefully) come out ok of this debate, then lurk later, pointing to 307 as "proof" that he switches when he is not suspicious.

Unvote, Vote: OTM

this smells of someone looking for a reason to vote,
look townish, and disappear again with little note.
Funny he mentions lurking while providing so little.
Maybe he own play he needs to review, before he attempts to belittle.

Thoughts on OTM are nothing new or gigantic.
His current posts and votes seem frantic.
But this does not put him in a scummy hue,
Many act this way while sitting at –2.
However, his accusations seem like a deflection.
Versus someone moving toward a scum hunting direction.

[Drunken Piper]

This might be personal thoughts, or feelings from the bust,
I question motivations behind people who post lists of who they trust.
Especially when they were not requested.
OTM why post them, for these answers need to be digested?

I find trust lists - especially the reactions to trust lists, can be very useful in figuring out alignments. Also, if I do get lynched, it will be a useful reference, since I will be confirmed town if I die.

How will it be useful at all.
You yourself have changed your mind, if I recall.

Also, if you are scum, it is full of lies.
If you are town, it is the perspective from your eyes.

What did you judge from including this list.
So far you referencing people’s reaction, does not exist.

OTM, I do that in all my games. It's cause I have lost interest.

that might be true and that might be so.
But can you provide links when you made similar statements being town pro?

[Drunken Piper]

Vote Count:
Off the Mark (5): Panzerjager, Phate, Thantos, SensFan, Zhao
Zhao (1): Holy
Phate (1): Korlash
QuickBen (1): DrunkenPiper

Not Voting (3): kabenon007, QuickBen, Jex, Off the Mark

With 12 alive it is 7 to lynch.

(yawn)

I agree, I have to admit,
So an

unvote

you get.

[Drunken Piper]

drunken piper: comes out as a townie even though korlash has already done that. Why the need to say you are powerless?

Maybe I have lost my sense,
But can you please quote me for this reference?

As for the Sens thing what don't you get? You post at least 5+ times more then he does. You should have at least 5+ more then him to say about why OTM should be lynched, yet you don't.

I read this twice, and thought “Really?”,
because this statement seems quite silly.

Whoa dang! You skimmed the thread... and that makes you feel comfortable putting someone at -1? -1 is not something to be skimmed into. It needs to have been thought out. I can't say that I'm not happy to see another vote on him, cuz I was going to do the same myself, but I have been pondering this for awhile. It seems like you, QuickBen, have decided to be, um, a little too quick. (haha)

Um, you realize that the fact that the explanation came later is not a point for you, OTM? If you had posted the explanation first and not waited for us to ask, we could assume that the explanation is true. But if the explanation is posted after we asked you to clarify, mutiple times, I believe, it could be assumed that those explanations were just tacked on once you realized that they were needed. However, I do not think you are the scummiest at the moment. You are second in my mind. QuickBen, you really messed up on this one.

unvote, vote: QuickBen

you continue to attack OTM and even mention you would put him at –1.
You continue to suggest that he is scummy, but your vote on him equals none.

Why does this seem like you don’t want to vote for OTM’s hanging.
But screaming his scumminess, with loud clanging and banging.

Please tell me what QuickBen did to mess up,
I think your play is bad, young pup.

Vote Kabenon.

[Drunken Piper]

Just going out on a limb,
but why would Quickben tell us that he did skim?

And you yourself keep claiming OTM is not town.
but you have yet to place a vote down.

Answer this guy,
Why?

[Drunken Piper]

And here is where QuickBen said he skimmed it:

Ok, I skimmed the thread last night

but

why

would Quickben tell us that he did skim?

Anyways... I can't wait to hear who brings up the "OTM is trying to throw suspicion off himself" blah case first... money is on Zhao, but DP or QB have ok odds... Then there is Phate, you can never tell what that guy will do...

OTM votes looks opportunistic or like a deflection.
Korlash, what are you thoughts of his votes under inspection?

I am actually on the fence about OTM’s alignment.
Due to Kab’s comments and vote reassignment.

[Drunken Piper]

Well, it is no surprise that QuickBen is hardcore lurking atm. I really want some posts from him, explaining his actions. If nothing new happens, I will be moving my vote. I just have to think of to where...

You continue to make nothing look scummy.
A quick meta of QB, sounds just yummy.

It doesn’t look like he has posted anywhere.
Yet this is something you don’t share.

Hello. I am MBF. I

brisky skimmed the thread

and now I want to vote for everybody

, starting with Quickben, Korlash, and Phate, not necessarily in that order.

vote: Phate

Kab, what are your thoughts on the bolded.
I want to see the inconsistencies being unfolded.

[Drunken Piper]

Maybe you shouldnt say he is "hardcore" lurking then.
If he hasnt posted anywhere, that changes the context for quickben.

However, you dont bother to check facts, before making implications.
that is truely scummy accusations.

[Drunken Piper]

Gone till the 26th in an egg nog haze,
hope everyone has happy holidays!!

[Drunken Piper]

I am back from the holidays were I stayed quite pissed.
Going to reread and see if anything I have missed.

Nothing has changed, or deserves a lengthy post.
Seems many are still gone, but I am here I boast...

[Drunken Piper]

So, actually... mostly from DrunkenPiper, Korlash, and mikeburnfire - what is your thoughts of OTM? If you already explained it, please share it again, maybe I missed it somewhere.

I do not like OTM's constant jump on a wagons that are.
His excuses to are not up to snuff or on par.

However, his wagon has been fast.
His worthlessness, inspired votes cast.

I think he will probably hurt us in later days.
His playstyle is lacking, and leaves me in a daze.

But I think his lynch today looks none to hard.
Could be scum driven, and full of lard.

At any rate, me vote is on the scummiest in me view.
Holy, your thoughts on Kab, I think are due.

[Drunken Piper]

I think he will probably hurt us in later days.
His playstyle is lacking, and leaves me in a daze.

You really have no idea what you are talking about here. Review some of my games.

Why do I need to look in other places?
When your play is lacking here in aces?

[Drunken Piper]

Got the prod and have nothing to add,
My vote on Kab is still good, the opposite of bad.

I think panzer is full of shit.
a quick meta will show other games he has not quit.

That being said, OTM is as oppurtunistic and I have grown quite sick.
if my vote is needed there at deadline, I will change it to him, quite quick.

[Drunken Piper]

cop came out too fast, maybe it is fate.
but going with the first claim, and

vote Phate

[Drunken Piper]

Listen ya'll to yer pappy,
I am still good with my vote, it makes me happy.

[Drunken Piper]

putting down my mead,
and going to reread.

[Drunken Piper]

The mod feels like I dont post enough, I got the hunch.
There is nothing really to comment on a bunch.

Me thinks the game is simple, if you just follow the scum killing plan,
Me thinks that our remaining mafia is Sensfan

Let his activity, content, and voting habits speak for him.
And you will find that his town probability looks quite dim.

This being said, I would also be down for a Kab lynch.
For me thinks he is the SK, and it is time for him to take the bench.

He makes mountains out of mole hills and is very pragmatic.
Given their actions, these votes should be automatic.

Today most likely I will only vote these two.
Unless you can make a better case, lynch me if that bothers you.

[Drunken Piper]

When we had two claimed cops, I still didn't know who actually said the truth.

Drunken Piper, while your rhyming is amusing, please pay attention. We have already determined that the last scum is almost certainly a roleblocker, and sensfan has not been counterclaimed on being a roleswitcher. He is not scum. SK maybe, but not scum.

Dont push your logic on me.
there are other possiblities

Why cant the SK be the blocker of roles?
Blocks the cop and rakes another (kills) over the coals.

[Drunken Piper]

There can't be two scum left... are you confused?

Math is tough what to do
but I know that Sk plus one mafia left is a scum total of 2.

@DrunkenPiper: I played with Sensfan on other 2 games, he was replaced and the other one he acted just like here. So in general from my 3 games with him, he is a lurkish player, so I still doubt about him being SK if based from that suspicion.

I for one know the Mod is on top of this game.
So why hasnt his fate in this game been the same?

He's posted in the last 72 hours, and also I know he's busy right now. He'll be prodded if 72 hours passes without him posting

MBF, did I miss this or did you not address,
The other possibilities of the SK in this mess.

Why cant the SK be the blocker of roles?
Blocks the cop and rakes another (kills) over the coals.

[Drunken Piper]

Want to talk about simplest theory, listen up and be still.
Maybe sensfan simply did not PM a kill

vote Sensfan

[Drunken Piper]

We can save kabenon-the_scum-lynch later, lets

Unvote, Vote: Drunken Piper

the hiding behind rhyme guy.

if I should hang today please note this reason why.
because I think you have just found the spices for scum pie.

vote Holy

you would rather lynch me, then someone you think is scum.
and you reasons provided, should make everyone go "hmmm"

[Drunken Piper]

I also feel like my vote is fine,
as holy's vote and play seeps of mafia's wine.

[Drunken Piper]

I am of the belief, in this game.
that the SK and roleblocker are the same.

Why are you guessing what scum will do?
Exactly who does it help right now, who?

[Drunken Piper]

If you're innocent, my bet is still on Holy.

but your vote was on Kab, due to your "mistake"
and his life you did take.

if this could be wrong, please someone tell me.
but could the SK be a cop and the scum the RB?

for there is much conversation about who is scum now.
even before the mod has shown us the result of our dead pal.

[Drunken Piper]

Skruffs, so if Holy is on top of you list.
What are you waiting, for this I have missed?

Do you have questions for Holy or I,
or are you just waiting for town feelings to see who you want to push to die?

Holy was the top of my list until the above^
now I am wondering who really does wear the SK glove.

[Drunken Piper]

you make a good point, and now we see eye to eye.
I was just wondering why there was no for on Holy or I?

[Drunken Piper]

In the reread, which I found a little tough,
I have come to the conclusion that me doubts our SK is scruffs.

My suspicion of Holy, is going to and fro.
I see her words, but her actions today I would rather know.
I would like to see what she does today.
Which is why me thinks, her lynch should be waylaid.

MBF, is aggressive and has proven to be actively on the scum hunt.
But so would the SK and he could be putting on a front.
I say that he does have a townish look,
But I can not yet put him in my town book.

Sensfan I have thought was scum for some time.
I disagree with Skruffs, when last he chimed
in that he thought Sens was not the SK.
Why do you think this every day?

Most likely my vote will find it’s way to Sens,
Before this day comes to a close, my town friends.

[Drunken Piper]

vote Sensfan

[Drunken Piper]

My suspicion of Holy, is going to and fro.
I see her words, but her actions today I would rather know.
I would like to see what she does today.

[Drunken Piper]

Mostly it is on gut,
And I do not understand why toward Sens your eyes are shut.
Now you will want to know what goes into the “gut” equation.
Some revolves around this lurking persuasion.
Some of it is his attitude and lack of the scum hunt.
Some of it is his voting habits, to be blunt.

Skruffs, why wouldn’t the SK support a mass claim?
Does not hurt him either way, things would be the same,
if he went along with the crowd
he could comfortably wear the town shroud.

[Drunken Piper]

are you saying the SK would not want the mafia and power roles outed.
in the process, getting town creds sprouted?

[Drunken Piper]

Still here,
and my vote is clear.

[Drunken Piper]

Bump
this lump

[Drunken Piper]

Damn...well played Mike.
schooled me liked a little tike.