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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:26 pm

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But no, not really. I'd go back if the collective demanded it, of course, but I'm pretty interested in Maker at the moment.
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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:28 pm

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In post 1372, The Ascended Masters wrote:By "comes to it" he means at least 200 pages into the game.
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In post 1374, SpyreX wrote:I dont want to go into mega detail but this feels like scum that are caught for the wrong reasons tm and that special indignation that comes with it.

Like he really thought that would stick and turn the tides and is furious that i am a frictionless plane.

Pedit cakes i swear to god be a bro get on the murder bus. If had a dayvig that ended the day id have used it 20 pages ago
LET ME DEVELOP MY SKRUB READ IN PEACE

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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:29 pm

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ok I promise I'll help push Maker through by tuesday night if the wagon hasn't collapsed by then.
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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:30 pm

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In post 1373, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 1371, Vifam wrote:Hey Nacho are you not interested in the Rach wagon at all anymore
I'd ask the same of you about the Maker wagon.
I backed off cuz MoZ's post about SirCakez where it looks like he's about to post a case and just says "Cakez actually hasn't posted enough idk lol" didn't really seem like a post scum would make when pressured. If he was scum and couldn't find anything in Cakez iso I dont see why he'd even bring that up. It's little but it's enough to make me wanna leave him alone. I still think RM is still a good wagon here.

Im not tripping tho he can be our guy today.
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:31 pm

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If mhsmith0 makes the case and Maker responds well enough to what I posted at him recently, I'll probably be willing to back off.
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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:32 pm

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But if I back off at this stage I'm probably pivoting onto someone that I'm killing because the day's already gone on far, far too long.
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:33 pm

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But if he trips or stumbles, I want him dead.
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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:36 pm

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In the meantime while I'm dreaming of ending this day within a reasonable amount of time, I'd like to hear fancy reads (if you have special reasons for killing them or you'd argue their wagon if it popped up) on these people:

1. randomidget
5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
8. Road Kamelot
11. Mirhawk
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
23. PeregrineV
24. davesaz
29. Nosferatu
32. Giovanni il Pellegrino
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:39 pm

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In post 1367, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 1321, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:2. 903 --> Complains about my reactionary analysis of KTS in 889 --> And what exactly is wrong with the post? It wasn't even a strong conclusion; just more of an aside/comment on how KTS was behaving this game & why. At worst its null at best its null. - Neutral (-1)
1. You tried to imply that KTS was scum because he wasn't acting like a troll. You didn't analyze any of his "serious posting", you just took a difference and you used that as an attempt to push him. You are docking points from SpyreX because he disagreed with you; isn't this the definition of bias?
In post 1321, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:Obviously, people are yelling because it isn't super obvious at a glance. Just cuz something looks obvious to you doesn't mean it does to everyone else. And quite frankly, I don't like how you are basically shouting from the sidelines despite not having giving your reasons to do so; it feels you dont want to be held accountable should this slot flip as town.
2. The Skrub wagon wasn't obvious at a glance, but it still popped up anyways. The House wagon wasn't obvious at a glance, but it still popped up anyways. SpyreX was pointing out that these wagons didn't get questioned, but yours did. Why? I don't understand how SpyreX is avoiding being held accountable for your town flip; his response blows this particular criticism out of the water, but just because he didn't give reasons for lynching you doesn't mean that people aren't going to turn to him if you flip town. I find that making a well-reasoned case on a wagon lets you get off with lynching someone more than just lynching someone does. Again, you're criticizing him for how he approached your wagon which again seems biased.
In post 1321, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:Yeah, the confirmation bias coming from this slot is quite obviously, and it really doesnt feel like town deathtunneling each other either. Show that Scrub is obvtown; if that were the case, then why is Scrub the competing top wagon? Also --> Look at the double-standard when it comes to people voting your townreads. I understand that the Scrub vote was somewhat bad, but how can you argue that Scrub's vote was much better in comparison --> You had no problem with it as far as I can tell. This is scum targeting the weakest link, not town that likes to deathtunnel players. Your attitude this game tells me so.
3. First, addressing the "if Skrub is obvtown, why is he the top competing wagon?". The majority opinion does not always align with an individual's opinion. The majority opinion (much like an individual opinion) is not always correct. I can elaborate on this if you'd like, but I'd hope that you can acknowledge that this is a bad line of thought if you spend some more time thinking about it.

4. As far as a double standard goes, SpyreX never argued that Skrub's vote was better than yours (although I'd argue that it was); he said that your vote was bad and that Skrub was obvtown (he argued absolutely nothing about your vote).

5. You seem to be arguing that old-timers (which feels directed at me and SpyreX in particular, please correct me if I'm wrong) are currently approaching your case with a closed mind and are producing terrible logic to push a lynch through. If you are town, I'd argue that this case is a case that you're making because you're frustrated by the push against you; you seem like a person who can approach a situation objectively but I'd be very surprised if you look at this case after the game is done and tell me that this is your objective approach to SpyreX's push on you.
At least someone isn't going to troll all day...


1. Fair about KTS. Maybe so with SpyreX; will think about that.
2. Maybe, maybe not (for wagon formation). I will concede about the accountability. The approach DOES matter imo, but you make me stop and rethink if the approach really is indicative of scum or null. Still hard to tell here imo, so I'll think about that too.
3. I agree with your premise here.
4. I implied that argument, but admittedly, its a bit of a stretch.
5. In a way, yes. It doesn't help when SpyreX just trolls though.

I will reconsider my stance. One problem I think is a there is a misunderstanding gap somewhere and that was partially what I was looking for. I try to approach things objectively, but there is always going to be bias. I had a feeling there was bias in my case, but I couldn't say what it was at the time.

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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:39 pm

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I have no read on any of those slots kek
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:39 pm

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^ is one of the reasons why I don't want to end the day yet
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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:42 pm

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In post 1222, Road Kamelot wrote:
In post 1217, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1210, Killthestory wrote:Nero's being a meany head.
wah wah wah!

You and Road can't sit there and accuse me of being scum thats hunting the opposite team and not expect me (and others) to not raise an eyebrow.
Why do i keep getting brought into this discussion like
I asked ya one question that was kind of a joke in its pedantry but every time you talk to KTS you bring me up like were joined at the hip

Also this is a hilarious quote to respond to in this way like buds just fuckin around at this point and youre all responding to him like a police investigator tryin to get a confession before your 24 hours of holding time are up

Also re: Skrub if hes an alt that changes things, i was thinking newscum w that reaction
If hes lying fuck em but i doubt it

Ill be back later for some cool votes
UNVOTE:
Kraskas town btw u go friend <3

@Diamond your 0 to 100 scumread on me made me laugh pls keep it up. not even the scumread itself but the "fuck RK" like i personally executed your family with my skrub vote and opinions about reading players based on their reactions
I don't like this post, it feels fake with the "haha you all make me laugh your accusations are so petty pshh ur nothing to me"
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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:43 pm

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Yall mfs need a song to get this done i can do that.

Moving forward full speed ahead
Time to ride and kill the red
No doubt, no regret, nothing to feel.
Mind a razor, heart of steel.

Then the doubt comes in, its no surprise.
The army stops, the tensions rise.
Until that moment he steps out of line.
Ready to stop the wave, axe to grind.

(Chorus)
The road is tough, we start to shiver.
Yet we know its time to deliver.
Take the swing, axe the faker.
It is time he meets his Maker.

United we survive, divided we fall.
Its always hard to make that call.
The executioner comes, his eyes cold.
But he knows his role is told.

Cause while he does what must be done
No one sings the axemans song
The people can rest a quiet sleep
Because the axeman gently weeps

(Chorus x3)
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:44 pm

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Id prefer to get a lynch before page 80
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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:45 pm

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In post 1382, The Ascended Masters wrote:In the meantime while I'm dreaming of ending this day within a reasonable amount of time, I'd like to hear fancy reads (if you have special reasons for killing them or you'd argue their wagon if it popped up) on these people:

1. randomidget
5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
8. Road Kamelot
11. Mirhawk
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
23. PeregrineV
24. davesaz
29. Nosferatu
32. Giovanni il Pellegrino
You do realize that most all of them have posted maybe 10 times.



Hey mod, I know you're asleep, but PV hasn't even posted. Can you give him a double prod since he can't even be bothered to play the game after confirming? Also, I get that he's V/LA, but this happens literally

every

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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:45 pm

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Ps you're all safe cause I'm the troll today. Its my curse and burden.

Just note chuckles wont play murderball but still wont just call me town its a mystery
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:45 pm

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In post 1233, Road Kamelot wrote:Ive gotta go but before i do
VOTE: Expedience
Why?
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:47 pm

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I dont think I've ever been called a troll before.

Hundred plus games, and a new first.
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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:49 pm

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In post 1390, SpyreX wrote:Just note chuckles wont play murderball but still wont just call me town its a mystery
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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:49 pm

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In post 1387, SpyreX wrote:Yall mfs need a song to get this done i can do that.

Moving forward full speed ahead
Time to ride and kill the red
No doubt, no regret, nothing to feel.
Mind a razor, heart of steel.

Then the doubt comes in, its no surprise.
The army stops, the tensions rise.
Until that moment he steps out of line.
Ready to stop the wave, axe to grind.

(Chorus)
The road is tough, we start to shiver.
Yet we know its time to deliver.
Take the swing, axe the faker.
It is time he meets his Maker.

United we survive, divided we fall.
Its always hard to make that call.
The executioner comes, his eyes cold.
But he knows his role is told.

Cause while he does what must be done
No one sings the axemans song
The people can rest a quiet sleep
Because the axeman gently weeps

(Chorus x3)
Road goes ever ever on,
Over rock and under tree,
By caves where never sun has shown,
By streams that never find the sea;
Over snow by winter sown,
And through the merry flowers of June,
Over grass and over stone,
And under mountains in the moon.

Roads go ever ever on
Under cloud and under star,
Yet feet that wandering have gone
Turn at last to home afar.
Eyes that fire and sword have seen
And horror in the halls of stone
Look at last on meadows green
And trees and hills they long have known.


Or my favorite rendition:

The Road goes ever ever on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.


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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:51 pm

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In post 1382, The Ascended Masters wrote:In the meantime while I'm dreaming of ending this day within a reasonable amount of time, I'd like to hear fancy reads (if you have special reasons for killing them or you'd argue their wagon if it popped up) on these people:

1. randomidget
5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
8. Road Kamelot
11. Mirhawk
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
23. PeregrineV
24. davesaz
29. Nos-feratu
32. Giovanni il Pellegrino
Maybe Road Kamelot for the post I quoted before
davesaz I would lynch
Nos-feratu because he's doing the exact thing as before where as scum he acted all snarky, dropped a vote on me and then lurked, coasting on a scumread on me until like day 3, long after I the wagon dissolved (getting wagoned early d1 but then it dissolving has happened in the past few large themes I've played). I expect he's going to do this and I didn't want to say anything but then I realized he probably won't actually read this lol. Just in case, I hyphenated his name so it doesn't come up in the search.

I have slightly positive feelings on SirCakez / grapes / Vedith
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:53 pm

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because youre ignoring my question


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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:55 pm

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Grapes was the miller? If hed give a shit hed be fine.
Cakez is fine.
Dandy i actively remember doing nothing and i would shoot in the face.
Dgb needs to showup but secret love pass is this mess for now.

Most of the others have faded into the darkness of sadness that's this thread
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Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:55 pm

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In post 1393, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1390, SpyreX wrote:Just note chuckles wont play murderball but still wont just call me town its a mystery
who
Obviously us.
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:57 pm

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In post 1396, pisskop wrote:because youre ignoring my question


p: @expedience
In post 1309, pisskop wrote:
In post 1135, pisskop wrote:pppe


expedient why do you scumread house again?
This? I didn't see the requote, and I already answered it the first time:
In post 1137, Expedience wrote:
In post 1135, pisskop wrote:pppe


expedient why do you scumread house again?
Because he voted Skrub saying it was "survivalism" when I was the larger wagon, and previously the idea was floated of us being scum together. That's the only thing though, I'll mostly judge it based off the replacement.

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