The real folk blues [Canceled]

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First!

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I am Nacho. I will probably be posting a majority of the time until my hydra partner's schedule clears up. My schedule is not particularly clear, but this will not be a problem as far as content and as far as reads produced go.

This is a game where there are 32 people playing. For the early stages, I don't give a fuck if you are awkward scum and awkward town; if you hide, if you are not aggressive, if you make bullshit pushes, I will push you until you die. If, for some obnoxious reason, my chosen wagon is not the wagon in the lead and that wagon is not utterly atrocious, I will push the shit out of the wagon until you die or you town hard enough for people to get off of you. If there is ever a wagon at L-1 that I am not very, very strongly townreading, I'm hammering. If you are a power role and you find yourself nearing death, be very very aware of where my vote is because I'm not claiming intent and I'm not listening to any players who are screaming "DON'T QUICKHAMMER YET" in the background.

Great. 1 person I can already ignore.

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I am Nacho. I will probably be posting a majority of the time until my hydra partner's schedule clears up. My schedule is not particularly clear, but this will not be a problem as far as content and as far as reads produced go.

This is a game where there are 32 people playing. For the early stages, I don't give a fuck if you are awkward scum and awkward town; if you hide, if you are not aggressive, if you make bullshit pushes, I will push you until you die. If, for some obnoxious reason, my chosen wagon is not the wagon in the lead and that wagon is not utterly atrocious, I will push the shit out of the wagon until you die or you town hard enough for people to get off of you. If there is ever a wagon at L-1 that I am not very, very strongly townreading, I'm hammering. If you are a power role and you find yourself nearing death, be very very aware of where my vote is because I'm not claiming intent and I'm not listening to any players who are screaming "DON'T QUICKHAMMER YET" in the background.

Great. 1 person I can already ignore.

Good luck with that, Diamond.

I've played 2 games with you and neither game you had a chip on your shoulder like this. I don't like that.

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I am Nacho. I will probably be posting a majority of the time until my hydra partner's schedule clears up. My schedule is not particularly clear, but this will not be a problem as far as content and as far as reads produced go.

This is a game where there are 32 people playing. For the early stages, I don't give a fuck if you are awkward scum and awkward town; if you hide, if you are not aggressive, if you make bullshit pushes, I will push you until you die. If, for some obnoxious reason, my chosen wagon is not the wagon in the lead and that wagon is not utterly atrocious, I will push the shit out of the wagon until you die or you town hard enough for people to get off of you. If there is ever a wagon at L-1 that I am not very, very strongly townreading, I'm hammering. If you are a power role and you find yourself nearing death, be very very aware of where my vote is because I'm not claiming intent and I'm not listening to any players who are screaming "DON'T QUICKHAMMER YET" in the background.

Great. 1 person I can already ignore.

Good luck with that, Diamond.

I've played 2 games with you and neither game you had a chip on your shoulder like this. I don't like that.

So by ignore, you meant to say "push", correct?
I don't have a chip on my shoulder. I expect that this game will be fun.

Not yet. Depends how you pan out. The game hasn't even started.

I'll stop shitposting when the game actually progresses
But until then I am enjoying my shitty throne

Also, the game hasn't started. Anyone who wants people to stop shitposting need to stfu and deal with it.

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Nacho the cut of your jib is beautiful.

There may not be an sdc, but I'm down for the dc. You've got my vote for at least a few days.

Skulls for the skull throne

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE

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Warhammer Trek 40k: The Wrath of KHORNE

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VOTE: Frozen Angel

After Cyberpunk, I never trust her anymore. ^_^

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VOTE: DiamondSentinel

Can never go wrong with this vote.

Can't tell if compliment or insult...

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VOTE: DiamondSentinel

Hi DS!

Hey Expedience! I'm back!

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also willing to policy lynch/vig

1. randomidget
2. Sekirei [Hydra of Yume and Titus]
5. ? [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
9. DiamondSentinel
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
16. Expedience
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
21. Skrub
24. davesaz
25. pisskop
28. Norvicodin [Hydra of House and Drixx]
29. Nosferatu
30. Killthestory

If you want to policy lynch people before the game is even really starting, why the fuck would you join?

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This made me laugh waaaaaay more than it should have.

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I thought this was a vig announcement. That'd have been extremely interesting...

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Nothing about the Expedience wagon feels organic and not somewhat backed by scum lol

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Anyways, finally caught up. I don't have any actual reads, I just have a couple posts that peg me for now. I'll probably make a quote wall about them later.

But nobody gets a town or scum read until at least the second 24 hour period.

Oh yes. Obvious OMGUS vote is obvious. VOTE: ABR

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VOTE: vifam

You smell.

~Jasper

Hi Yume. Why did you claim Ein?

I am not Yume. Yume never posted. It's Titus.

Wait, this is a Yume + Titus hydra?

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wholly crap do you guys expect me to stomach 16 pages every 12 hours?

What did you expect tho, really
Just ignore all the shitposting content and youll be fine

In other words, ignore everything.

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hey nero since this is multiball are u sure ur not scum either tbh?

Multiball you say? Size of game suggests it's a possibility but you seem pretty confident.

Well, I won't say this is a conclusive scum-slip, but I will keep this in mind.

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The game has been up for just over a day and you already replace out?

Grow a pair, house.



Unfortunately, this places suspicion on Drixx in my book.

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Also, I suddenly understand why some mods don't allow hydrae.

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Rip Titus.

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That was a shitfest

I gotta get myself together

That still seemed like some town v town stuff at first even though it got personal.


I really feel like a Rach wagon might be the next best move because of what mhs said.


I don't really know anything anymore tbh.

I feel the exact opposite... That was definitely not TvT. If anything, it was SvS or Sv3

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Sv3P, that is.

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Nobody's interactions through that felt town-motivated in the slightest.

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That was a shitfest

I gotta get myself together

That still seemed like some town v town stuff at first even though it got personal.


I really feel like a Rach wagon might be the next best move because of what mhs said.


I don't really know anything anymore tbh.

I feel the exact opposite... That was definitely not TvT. If anything, it was SvS or Sv3

Nah, if anything the Sekirei hydra is town.

If they are town, we're fucked now. Titus was the only reason I didn't policy lynch them, and that's because I can read Titus like a book.

VOTE: Yume

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lol that's hilarious.

@diamond: were not policying d1 for being a player you don't like. Make a scum case on her if you want her gone.

Yume's play is objectively awful. Titus' is quite often objectively awful, but she is extremely easy to read, so as long as you remember don't pay her any heed, then she's a good slot to keep alive until MyLo.

Then she should go.

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Its suuuuuuuper easy to townread me when I'm town because I obvtown the fuck out of this game when I actually play it.

Like, I'm not overgamed, and I'm hype for this game. That means I'm going to obvtown this game. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Tentative reads on me = scum. It's not that Rach did a weak townread. It's because the townread is weak that they're scum. I'm clearly town here, tyvm.

VOTE: Rach

Ok, I want this slot dead NOW.

VOTE: KTS

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Anyone who claims that they are obvtown but doesn't even try to prove it should be shot and killed immediately in my book.

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hey nero since this is multiball are u sure ur not scum either tbh?

Multiball you say? Size of game suggests it's a possibility but you seem pretty confident.

Anyone who claims that they are obvtown but doesn't even try to prove it should be shot and killed immediately in my book.

It's kts though. He did the same dumb shit in open 646. Null on him.

Listen, I do weird shit every game, but when I say I'm obvtown, I PROVE IT BY GOLLY

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lol shut up diamond I do what I want

Well, so will I. Eventually.

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As soon as the mod says it's ok.

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What about Skrub's reaction to that wagon was town bruh

I don't think it was either town or scum. Wagon reactions are SOOOO easily faked. They are NAI, at best.

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lol shut up diamond I do what I want

Well, so will I. Eventually.

lol there is no eventually for me.

You're suicidal? Huh, that's unfortunate.

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What day do you off yourself? Please tell me it's N1.

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First of all since when does being right = being town
And secondly the first vote had a reason, my vote was sheeping that reason cause I agreed, and subsequent votes were bc of the reaction
Look at 335, thats trying to look casual. Doesnt even try to contest that vote. only looks at the grapes vote bc it was naked even though the reasoning was obvious (Skrub's post just before)
All subsequent posts are about the votes on him, 591 is especially great
Then we have 618, which i guess could be hunting. Except its picking a random post where someone gives reads. Why that one? and why ask RachMarie that question specifically? its out of the blue and just looks like he realized he needs to do some hunting

@Diamond: scum dont fake scummy reactions is the thing

Indeed. They fake town reactions. Therefore, since everyone tries to act townie, but scum are more deliberate about their reaction, that would mean that town would be more likely to have a scum reaction. But since they weren't acting deliberately, then they would go with the natural choice. Therefore, we would assume that no reaction would be a scum reaction. But that's clearly not the case.


Thus the contradiction, which means that wagon reactions are NAI.

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Like dude that logic can be applied to nearly any reaction scum or town have to anything

Not really.

@Killthestory - What I meant was the role modifier suicidal.

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What reaction would you not apply that logic to, and why? Consider this a game theory question, i dont think your opinion on it is alignment indicative.
But something RELATED to the game... do yall have a read on Skrub yay or nay

1. Reactions are a ridiculous thing to base your reads off of. Instead, read between the lines, and find

why

they would say what they said. Only then will you findeth the pearl of truth amidst the ocean of shit. (quote from my last game's postgame)
2. I have no concrete reads. Just a couple things that intrigue me that certain people have said.

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Oh Jesus H Christ. Fine here comes a quote wall (next post)

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We thought the rest of you would respect me more if we did it, so she worked in the background while I posted her opinions along with mine in public.

Ok, first off, this pissed me off, exceptionally much, even for Titus and Yume.

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lol that's hilarious.

@diamond: were not policying d1 for being a player you don't like. Make a scum case on her if you want her gone.

Policying someone for specific behavior (especially if meaningfully wolf indicative) is acceptable. Policying because you don't like them isn't. Diamonds comment might be the latter.

Im not a fan of pretending to be one's hydra partner on purpose but its whatever im not gonna press it
Lets just lynch scum Skrub, thatd be a productive thing to do today
Look at that reaction to the wagon

pedit: Because it results in the above ^^^^ Sorry Frozen, I'm sure this will settle down in a lil bit

All 3 of these posts REALLY look like scum defending scumbuddies.

But again, thi sis less than 2 days in.

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Also, I read that WoTC thread and I am angry at how you treat my other half. I am your judge, jury, and executioner. Now are you gonna apologize or face Peridot-style court? And trust me, Peridot-style court ain't pleasant.

~Peridot

Fuck no.

To clarify: I'm not going to apologize in this game for our of game behavior.

Using out of game behavior as an excuse to lynch me would be mighty scummy.

So, "judge, jury, and executioner", do what you think you should.

Very very townie post.

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Holy shit I need anti-depressants after reading KTS's shitposts all the way from the beginning...

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VOTE: Skrub
I had the same vibes. Early caught scum, go go go

And again, another scummy post from RK. After seeing how terribly this wagon formed, I pretty confidently can say Skrub is lynchbait.

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VOTE: Skrub
I had the same vibes. Early caught scum, go go go

Ok, so, some final comments after re-skimming the thread.

Fuck RK. She is the most blatant scum I have ever seen. I will bet $5 billion dollars that she's a scumfuck. VOTE: RK
Nero's intro annoyed me to all hell, but the rest of his posts don't point scum. He sits at a null!town.
KTS also deserves death. Regardless if he is scum pulling a PV (also, wasn't that lurking bastard in this game?) or if he's just a shitposter, then he needs to be vigged ASAP (As soon as Pyoom like a bullet! (name that reference))

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1. Passive Aggression is my modus aparatus. It works wonders in games. See Guild of Dungeoneering, Machina Mafia, and Cyberpunk for some of my grandest performances. Cyberpunk is why FA invited me here, after I brilliantly caught her and Shino's hydra as a serial killer. (Ok, admitadly I didn't catch them. They had me in a neighborhood, and I suspected them for ages, but then they got NK'd before I could reveal it. We only lost that game because I dismissed Dwlee because he was playing too terribly. I never let that happen again)

2. I do tend to get pretty close to a policy lynch. But I've only ever gotten lynched once, and it was because of some terrible stuff that happened that caused a shitshow.

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Not nothing.

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Thank you for showing up, albeit extremely late.

Varsoon hydrae are great.
Shino hydrae are exceptionally great.

I can't wait for this one.

PEdit: Now you're implying I'm setting up a strongman on you. Well, first off, you haven't made a single post that wasn't a shitpost or extremely defensive. Furthermore, you are now trying to slander me, when my comment was very clearly about the suicidal role modifier in this game that causes the player to be removed from the game upon reaching a certain condition. If this continues, you might just find yourself in the deadthread prematurely.

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Post 571 (quote above) is really really good. Also, I'm not into self-induced torture, so you'll have to wait to see me rereading the thread for a while.

Also, strongman is insulting a person's character instead of actually making an argument on their logic, which is what you're claiming I'm doing. But it's not. Your lack of content and your obvious misrep of what I'm saying is reason enough for your death.

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I need more people to get on and talk to this kid, plz.

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Don't be demeaning just because I just destroyed your entire argument.

You didn't so much as make a scratch on my argument. It's just that me being the only one talking to you isn't helping me read anyone else.

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We thought the rest of you would respect me more if we did it, so she worked in the background while I posted her opinions along with mine in public.

Ok, first off, this pissed me off, exceptionally much, even for Titus and Yume.

Please can we get through one large theme without a titus/yume related shitstorm?

Doubtfully. Titus seems to cause them wherever she goes. And I don't know Yume very well. I just don't like their play.

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What's Skrub at? Tell me when/if Skrub gets to, say, 12 votes.

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Also, rb, speak for yourself. Your posts are almost as cancer as KTS.

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Please point to where you have done anything besides make naked votes or shitpost.

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OMG 32 pages

Wait DGB is in this game? Why did nobody tell me this...

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@FA Can we get a votecount soon? It's been an awful lot of pages since the last one.

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hey nero since this is multiball are u sure ur not scum either tbh?

Multiball you say? Size of game suggests it's a possibility but you seem pretty confident.

Anyone who claims that they are obvtown but doesn't even try to prove it should be shot and killed immediately in my book.

It's kts though. He did the same dumb shit in open 646. Null on him.

Listen, I do weird shit every game, but when I say I'm obvtown, I PROVE IT BY GOLLY

You're not KTS; you aren't RC. Play the gane like it supposed to be played.

True, I'm not KTS. But I might be RC. People thought I was their alt during my first game onsite. Also, fuck you! You don't know what works and doesn't work for me!

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Like dude that logic can be applied to nearly any reaction scum or town have to anything

Not really.

@Killthestory - What I meant was the role modifier suicidal.

Thats quite the leap of faith, and while are you phishing KTS?
~Zanos

It was a joke. I was saying something about "something something later" and he said "it's not later for me", so I made the joke that he knew he was going to die by Day X

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That was a shitfest

I gotta get myself together

That still seemed like some town v town stuff at first even though it got personal.


I really feel like a Rach wagon might be the next best move because of what mhs said.


I don't really know anything anymore tbh.

I feel the exact opposite... That was definitely not TvT. If anything, it was SvS or Sv3

Nah, if anything the Sekirei hydra is town.

If they are town, we're fucked now. Titus was the only reason I didn't policy lynch them, and that's because I can read Titus like a book.

VOTE: Yume

I think you're probably town, but I disagree with this vote

Yume's indignance felt really town to me, even though I'm weirdly not sure exactly why that is.

That vote was a policy lynch. But now Yume's replaced out. So I'm cool with that.

PEdit: Oh Jesus Christ rb. I really really hope that isn't real...

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So updated reads are

Nacho, Spy, Vifam, Nero, KTS town

Grapes claimed Miller

Weaker town reads on Exp, rb, the replacment for titus/yume, and drixx,

Scum reads on
MoZ and smith

No read on me? How come?

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Anyone who claims that they are obvtown but doesn't even try to prove it should be shot and killed immediately in my book.

Do you think Killthestory is scum for that, or is this another policy vote?

Honestly, I'm not sure. Either they are scum trying to get people to think they are town, or they are so god-awfully town that they should die.

This is a repeat of Dwlee in Cyberpunk (he said that he was obvtown but never proved it, so I dismissed him as terrible play, which was an awful mistake that cost us the game).

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Maker, why did you vote DS when I'm the largest wagon?

Do you still think I'm scum?

Less so; I feel there is more evidence against Diamond than I ever had against you.

Please. Do give ANY evidence.

Oh, and I just realized you were Ircher.


Yeah, your opinion doesn't even get taken for a grain of salt. That'd be giving you too much credit.

PEdit: I said either scum or god-awful town. Jesus Christ kid, I really wish you were dayviged.

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I just say "kid" because it's a habit I gathered in Freshman year.

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Anyone who claims that they are obvtown but doesn't even try to prove it should be shot and killed immediately in my book.

Do you think Killthestory is scum for that, or is this another policy vote?

Honestly, I'm not sure. Either they are scum trying to get people to think they are town, or they are so god-awfully town that they should die.

This is a repeat of Dwlee in Cyberpunk (he said that he was obvtown but never proved it, so I dismissed him as terrible play, which was an awful mistake that cost us the game).

I get this, but you should know that's just a KTS thing.

I'm not going to settle for that excuse anymore.

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A wagon I can finally agree with!

VOTE: Maker_of_Zanos

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This game is funny because there's like 12 people who are pretty much impossible to lynch regardless of alignment and then there's everyone else.

So, funny enough, I'm actually one of those people. I literally just got lynched for the first time in Akame ga Kill mafia, and I've played ~15-20 games. Pretty good odds, if you ask me!

But enough growing my ego.

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@FA Can we get a votecount soon? It's been an awful lot of pages since the last one.

But I sleep at nights!

Yeah, I know bb. Sorry about that. You just happen to sleep when everyone else is up and posting. I forgot that you're not in America.

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@Diamond:

We thought the rest of you would respect me more if we did it, so she worked in the background while I posted her opinions along with mine in public.

Ok, first off, this pissed me off, exceptionally much, even for Titus and Yume.

Why did this piss you off? Like, I could see this as being a bit annoying, but why is it suddenly horrible or rage-inducing for one head of a hydra to fake signing as the other head? This just seems like an over-reaction to the post unless there's meaningful shared history here that I'm missing.

Spoiler:

lol that's hilarious.

@diamond: were not policying d1 for being a player you don't like. Make a scum case on her if you want her gone.

Policying someone for specific behavior (especially if meaningfully wolf indicative) is acceptable. Policying because you don't like them isn't. Diamonds comment might be the latter.

Im not a fan of pretending to be one's hydra partner on purpose but its whatever im not gonna press it
Lets just lynch scum Skrub, thatd be a productive thing to do today
Look at that reaction to the wagon

pedit: Because it results in the above ^^^^ Sorry Frozen, I'm sure this will settle down in a lil bit

All 3 of these posts REALLY look like scum defending scumbuddies.

But again, thi sis less than 2 days in.

DS: Let's policy yume
Me: It sounds like you just don't like her, you need to actually bother making a case here
DS: That's how scum-buddies would defend each other

Like, how does that even make sense? You think that if I was teammates with Yume my objection would be that you didn't have a case, even though said objection would be easy to overcome if you actually, you know, bothered to make a case?

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Also, I read that WoTC thread and I am angry at how you treat my other half. I am your judge, jury, and executioner. Now are you gonna apologize or face Peridot-style court? And trust me, Peridot-style court ain't pleasant.

~Peridot

Fuck no.

To clarify: I'm not going to apologize in this game for our of game behavior.

Using out of game behavior as an excuse to lynch me would be mighty scummy.

So, "judge, jury, and executioner", do what you think you should.

Very very townie post.

Umm... how? What about that post do you think is non-fakeable, or game-solving, or in any way meaningfully town-indicative?

Spoiler:

VOTE: Skrub
I had the same vibes. Early caught scum, go go go

And again, another scummy post from RK. After seeing how terribly this wagon formed, I pretty confidently can say Skrub is lynchbait.

VOTE: Skrub
I had the same vibes. Early caught scum, go go go

Ok, so, some final comments after re-skimming the thread.

Fuck RK. She is the most blatant scum I have ever seen. I will bet $5 billion dollars that she's a scumfuck. VOTE: RK
Nero's intro annoyed me to all hell, but the rest of his posts don't point scum. He sits at a null!town.
KTS also deserves death. Regardless if he is scum pulling a PV (also, wasn't that lurking bastard in this game?) or if he's just a shitposter, then he needs to be vigged ASAP (As soon as Pyoom like a bullet! (name that reference))

These two posts are two minutes apart. Presumably the re-read had been done before the set of posts (including the ones before this pair) started going, but it's a weird transition between these two posts. Like, the first one is maybe a bit annoyed, and reads as being game-solving, making an alignment read on Skrub based on RK's behavior. And the second just seems like a sudden over the top transition. Does anyone have history with DS? Does normally he make these weird emotional hops quickly when town? When I read it, it seems fake to me, but this may just be a function of a weird playstyle on his end.

First off, Yume is a fairly accomplished scummer. There was no reason she (I have no idea if they are a chick or a dude but idgaf) should have done this. Yeah, people don't take her seriously, but that doesn't excuse that. It is artificially playing with the opinions of the players in the game, and the more I think of it, it's starting to feel like something scum would be more interested in doing. Yume's name on things has gotten her lynched before, and yet Titus is indeed nigh-impossible to lynch. I've only been able to get her lynched once. All other times, she had to be NK'd, whether or not she was scum.

Next, it wasn't the fact that you were defending her. I don't have issues with that, especially since it

was

mostly a policy lynch. It's the fact that you were misrepping my arguement

big time

. That's the scummiest thing.

Third, that post is very unreserved, and there isn't a whole lot said beyond the surface. However, the tone he uses in it points to a certain amount of apathy about one person's opinion. This is very town for Drixx, who I think posted that, but regardless, it is a town post no matter who it is. Just almost conf!town for Drixx if he continues to make those sort of posts. Drixx loses his cool when he gets pressured as scum, sorry to say.

Oh, I won't make that meta argument, although I call to the stand Drixx, Expedience, ABR (never thought I'd say that), or Cerb. All 4 of them have extensive history with me. Also, thanks for actually looking at timestamps. You do show genuine interest in the game.

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there's like 10 slots either not voting anything useful or just not voting, i wanna kill one of those more than maker

We are not 2 days in... Vanity wagons are allowed.

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DS is a mild scum read for me at this point. Not a huge priority sort but I don't see the obv!town there. MoZ just seems bad rather than obv!wolf to me, and the IMO self-vote continues along that vein. Some of that may simply be me being over-sensitive to that after watching Ranger pull similar shit as town in open 642 (including the shitty self-vote), but I'm starting to come around the idea that shit like that actually does come more often from town, even though it never ever ever should. In this case, it's conceivable that they're scum/SK giving up, but it's also plausible that they're town giving up. I know Ircher (who I think was making those posts) is bugged by being a lynchbait type, so I can reasonably see him getting pissy and pulling a stunt like that out of frustration at being wagoned. Obviously it could be him pulling a scam and faking it, but I just don't see why it's wolf-indicative instead of essentially null. I'd still much rather wagon RachMarie at this point.

I'll beat the same dead horse I've done in every other game, but I usually only become obv!town D3-4. I'm a strong player mid-game.

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That was a shitfest

That still seemed like some town v town stuff at first even though it got personal.
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I feel the exact opposite... That was definitely not TvT. If anything, it was SvS or Sv3

Sv3P, that is.

Nobody's interactions through that felt town-motivated in the slightest.

Nah, if anything the Sekirei hydra is town.

If they are town, we're fucked now. Titus was the only reason I didn't policy lynch them, and that's because I can read Titus like a book.

VOTE: YumeVOTE:

DS, What about the exchange made it seem like SvS or Sv3rdP?

I think you're bullshitting.

Ugh, yeah. Give me a sec. I gotta rewind 500 posts to figure out what I was thinking.

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A wagon I can finally agree with!

VOTE: Maker_of_Zanos

You seem... scummy, Diamond... Even more so than normal.

Aww, you flatter me!

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What a shitfest. Also, I have no intention of reading any of the shitfest thus far. Before fleeing from the oncoming shit tidal wave (sort of like the Boston Molasses disaster), my partner crumbed our role. Idiots voting me should look at that crumb, consider who my hydra partner was, and do something productive.

If there's anything from the first 1,140 posts worth reading, I'd appreciate someone gisting for me. Don't got time for that level of shitfest.

Go back, say, 5 pages or so, and then just read what was quoted there, too. Those posts are actually meaningful.

[DiamondSentinel]

Rb seems town

Indeed.

I don't know if this is good for us, or bad. He seems like he's more likely to vig a town every night than he is to shoot a single scum.

PEdit: No, don't worry! I was mostly being facetious. But either way, I actually have a weakish townread on Expedience. I've seen them as scum (I think) and I definitely know how they are as town. This is very similar to their behavior in Machina Mafia.

[DiamondSentinel]

@FA Can we get a votecount soon? It's been an awful lot of pages since the last one.

But I sleep at nights!

there's like 10 slots either not voting anything useful or just not voting, i wanna kill one of those more than maker

Ok, caught up. I've reread that part, KC.

As I said before, it does seem like Drixx lost his cool with Titus/Yume, which is scum-indicative of him, more often than not. However, I can't blame him, especially upon seeing that it was actually that lil shit Yume (abbreviated little to show it's playful), so I don't really think it's scum.

And that Titus/Yume hydra was really really scummy from the start, mostly from the complete lack of actual content, and mostly saying something without actually

saying

anything.

[DiamondSentinel]

that lil shit Yume

can you not

[sigh] It was a joke. I figured that was evident by the offhand comment I said in the parenthesis.

[DiamondSentinel]

But the thing is, rb, Titus has a reputation for ruining town. I can name numerous games when she was almost single-handedly responsible for the town's loss. That's why I was in favor of their policy lynch.

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mhs: pretty sure DS is town like scum doesnt go from nonchalantly reading the thread and having minor opinions to calling me a scumfuck because they disagree on how to form reads
I dont want to say too acummy to be scum because thats stupid like damn
like i really wanna vote DS and tell him to throwdown cause itd be funny but i think hes town here, scum DS is at least a little self aware

I see a Rach wagon, is she scum

who was calling Skrub a counter to something? counter to what? if skrub was a counter there was a wagon on scum beforehand, someone point me in that direction

Pedit: Diamond Titus is a loud tunneler but she doesnt deserve a policy lynch like ever, shes easy af to read. i respect your opinion tho champ

That doesn't matter. She should never make it to MyLo, ever.

We should stop this conversation because she's not in it anymore...

[DiamondSentinel]

Wish I could lie horizontally without getting pressure inside my skull. Worst headache ever.

Do Skeletors get headaches? I mean, how does that even work?!

[DiamondSentinel]

okay thats all good and well man but why do you hate my slot man i need to know man come on man

The real question here is why wouldn't anyone hate your slot...

[DiamondSentinel]

okay thats all good and well man but why do you hate my slot man i need to know man come on man

The real question here is why wouldn't anyone hate your slot...

i didnt ask you youre being a meany head

I know. I gave my input freely and without reserve.

skeletors get the worst headaches, why you think im always evil man? it's the headaches im actually a nice guy

HE ADMITTED THAT HE IS EVIL! LYNCH HIM NOW!

VOTE: rb

/s

UNVOTE:
VOTE: maker

[DiamondSentinel]

God, the mod must hate me right now

[DiamondSentinel]

Look at Zanos trying to be a scumputer. Please can we lynch this spot?

[DiamondSentinel]

In the meantime while I'm dreaming of ending this day within a reasonable amount of time, I'd like to hear fancy reads (if you have special reasons for killing them or you'd argue their wagon if it popped up) on these people:

1. randomidget
5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
8. Road Kamelot
11. Mirhawk
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
23. PeregrineV
24. davesaz
29. Nosferatu
32. Giovanni il Pellegrino

You do realize that most all of them have posted maybe 10 times.

Hey mod, I know you're asleep, but PV hasn't even posted. Can you give him a double prod since he can't even be bothered to play the game after confirming? Also, I get that he's V/LA, but this happens literally

every

game

[DiamondSentinel]

Yall mfs need a song to get this done i can do that.

Moving forward full speed ahead
Time to ride and kill the red
No doubt, no regret, nothing to feel.
Mind a razor, heart of steel.

Then the doubt comes in, its no surprise.
The army stops, the tensions rise.
Until that moment he steps out of line.
Ready to stop the wave, axe to grind.

(Chorus)
The road is tough, we start to shiver.
Yet we know its time to deliver.
Take the swing, axe the faker.
It is time he meets his Maker.

United we survive, divided we fall.
Its always hard to make that call.
The executioner comes, his eyes cold.
But he knows his role is told.

Cause while he does what must be done
No one sings the axemans song
The people can rest a quiet sleep
Because the axeman gently weeps

(Chorus x3)

Road goes ever ever on,
Over rock and under tree,
By caves where never sun has shown,
By streams that never find the sea;
Over snow by winter sown,
And through the merry flowers of June,
Over grass and over stone,
And under mountains in the moon.

Roads go ever ever on
Under cloud and under star,
Yet feet that wandering have gone
Turn at last to home afar.
Eyes that fire and sword have seen
And horror in the halls of stone
Look at last on meadows green
And trees and hills they long have known.


Or my favorite rendition:

The Road goes ever ever on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.


God I love Tolkien.

[DiamondSentinel]

Okay so guess what town

Town needs to cooperate and not just come out of nowhere with random scumreads/townreads. Explain in-depth when you have a scumread on someone that the majority doesn't agree with and vice versa. Make a townbloc, a collective, whatever, I don't care. However, to ever be able to agree on something, you all need to express your views in a logical manner and have intellectual discussion rather than random words to be had.

Thank you.

You see, every time you make a post like this, it almost makes me want to see you as town, because it shows that you are in a hurry to do something.

But then my voice of reason speaks up because WE ARE ONLY 2 DAYS INTO THE GAME! MOST GAMES ARENT EVEN OUT OF RVS YET

[DiamondSentinel]

ds why are u so obsessed with kts

Because that's what I do. I focus on one aspect until I solve it completely. Everyone cracks eventually. It's up to me to follow them like shit to a blanket until they do.

[DiamondSentinel]

Diamond what games are you playing that take 2 days to get out of RVS, jesus christ
Killthestory is town, move on
Also I dismissed ya as town before but id like to ask. where did your forceful scumread of me go
where did it come from
where did it go
where did it come from cotton eye joe

SirCakez that lurking judgement on grapes kinda sucks when its only been a coupla days, you cant say thats lurking when it could easily be a nonstandard period of inactivity in general. you know what they say about hasty judgements

Pisskop your new avatar fucking rocks
if someone has a current votecount pls post it, im gonna give reads on anyone with three or more votes if i care enough

1. Eh, most of my games take that long to get out of it. Just the way they've gone.
2. Nope
3. It's not gone anywhere. I still think you are scum. But I also think Maker is scum too, and his lynch might happen today.
4. Fuck you that wasn't even a good reference.

PEdit: Yes. Maker and Road are very obviously scum to me.

[DiamondSentinel]

Spoiler: Reads

Confirmed Town

(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Maker of Zanos  (100%) - Role PM

Likely Town

(85%-97% Confidence)

Leaning Town

(60%-84% Confidence)
Killthestory (+75%) - With KTS, it mainly cones down to a gutread and his posts makes me feel he's town this game.

Null

(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Spyrex (+10%) - Ascended Masters brought up some good points against my "case" earlier. I have reconsidered my read and while they havent done anything I'd called really town indicative, an unbiased view reveals that they haven't really done too much in terms of scum actions either.
SirCakez (0%) - Cannot compute; maybe my other head has an opinion here (?)

Neutral

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)
Scrub (+50%) - Feels like townie frustration concerning his wagon. I would argue (possibly biasedly) that his vote switch onto us wasn't really good but likely from frustration and confirmation bias.
Diamond (-40%) - His logical reasoning has been pretty bad this game, but I wonder if thats always the case. I don't have extensive meta, so my read here isn't final or even very strong.

Leaning Scum

(60%-75% Confidence)

Likely Scum

(76%-100% Confidence)

Summary of everyone I did an ISO read for.
~Zanos

you assholes realize lime green and bright yellow burn my eyes and eont show up against a properly lit background, right?


skittles didnt even have my name in it, and d1 readlists are bad in general

^ this, mafSepia is the only bearable theme

The "analysis" posts are as good as the characters they're represented by, anyone can make up random crap to nitpick from ISOs and percentages. I'm not even going to read that shit.

Absolutely not. The blue one is the only way to go.

[DiamondSentinel]

1457 wins some kind of award.
I've never heard of protect the lurkaderps they are a special flower.
And informational lynches are a pox like reaction tests and hydras

Huh. You are 100% correct. Something rare in this game, especially.

Hey mod, I know you're asleep, but PV hasn't even posted. Can you give him a double prod since he can't even be bothered to play the game after confirming? Also, I get that he's V/LA, but this happens literally

every

game

The first prod will go out later today. PV is always VLA during weekends though!

Yeah, I understand. It just gets annoying.

[DiamondSentinel]

Ari just do what I do. Wait I think there was a post pre-game about this
pedit: damn DS doesnt like my memes those are all i have left

Lemme get this straight so... youre pushing KTS until he cracks (because that never backfires) but Maker is the one youre seriously considering lynching today. Why not heckle Maker
Didnt your scumread on me come about because we disagreed on Skrub scum and thats... literally the only reason come on dude

It doesn't backfire unless I stop pushing them. And I don't need to push Maker because he's done everything shy of claiming scum.

Also, there are more reasons, but GOSH DANG IT LET ME CATCH UP

[DiamondSentinel]

A wagon I can finally agree with!

VOTE: Maker_of_Zanos

I've looked at your posts after this point and noticed something interesting.
Can you explain why you agree with this wagon?

I have nothing more than he's (again) done everything shy of claiming scum.
PEdit: @kraska I've never gotten policy lynched.

[DiamondSentinel]

ds why are u so obsessed with kts

Because that's what I do. I focus on one aspect until I solve it completely. Everyone cracks eventually. It's up to me to follow them like shit to a blanket until they do.

Dude how many times do u need to get policy lynched to understand that u need to adjust ur play
Also what do you think of kamelot

I'll ISO her later. It is far too late, and I am far too sleep deprived for this.

PEdit: What do you mean by The Collective?

[DiamondSentinel]

STOP THAT

pagetop

[DiamondSentinel]

In the meantime while I'm dreaming of ending this day within a reasonable amount of time, I'd like to hear fancy reads (if you have special reasons for killing them or you'd argue their wagon if it popped up) on these people:

1. randomidget
5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
8. Road Kamelot
11. Mirhawk
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
23. PeregrineV
24. davesaz
29. Nosferatu
32. Giovanni il Pellegrino

I'm Town,
Grapes is a Miller,
Giovanni il Pellegrino is replacing out,
Space Dandy is a dandy kind of guy, no way can that hydra be lynched today,

and then there's the unusually quiet Albert B. Rampage... hmm...

Ooh! Yes!

iirc, that is supposedly alignment indicative of him.

Or at least that's what people said in Cyberpunk mafia when his and Titus' hydra was scum. I think. Don't quote me on that. Honestly, I have no fucking idea, but I do think that he was unusually quiet.

[DiamondSentinel]

We should play some games while we wait for a wagon to build up. The loser of said games has to reveal something about their role. (e.g claim an ability or your flavor)

Or not, if that'd be considered against the rules.

[DiamondSentinel]

Honestly, I'm just already bored to shit out of my mind.

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh right I got distracted and forgot to get back to Ds
Ds the only memorable thing about ur posting is u reprimanding kts for shitposting over and over
I didn't even realise you scum read kamelot and whoever else ure scumreading...why are u giving all this undivided attention to kts and not ur scumreads

Because KTS

is

a scumread.

[DiamondSentinel]

ds has done so much trolling id be okay with a pl on most trolls

panzer you just made my list
diamond
drixx
skrub
lurkers

all worthless slots rn

Honestly, I troll when idiots shitpost or really just say idiotic stuff. If you guys will stop being dumbasses, then I will take the game more seriously.

[DiamondSentinel]

fuck both of you.

theres a whole subforum for wasting time and space. and numerous sites to chess in

IIRC DS does this when bored. I've seen it. Not always chess, but games of a sort. NAI I'd say, though annoying.

I don't necessarily play games. I just tend to talk about non-game things.

[DiamondSentinel]

fuck both of you.

theres a whole subforum for wasting time and space. and numerous sites to chess in

IIRC DS does this when bored. I've seen it. Not always chess, but games of a sort. NAI I'd say, though annoying.

I don't necessarily play games. I just tend to talk about non-game things.

So it wasn't you that played hangman that one time? Possibly with RC?

Memory has failed me. Oh well! It's still not something unexpected from you. What had you so bored?

No. That wasn't me, but I have either read it, or been in that game. I don't remember.

Anyways, I tell jokes. Lots of jokes. Especially puns.

[DiamondSentinel]

VOTE: DiamondSentinel
Blatantly ducking giving any reason for votes.

I'm not against voting MoZ but the

why

is rather mysterious to me.

What

are they doing / not doing which makes them scum?

This is D1. My reasons are not for the unworthy. Especially now. If you don't like that, go fuck yourself.

[DiamondSentinel]

ari, how you feeling wrt reads.

drixx, math, im still pointing you guys out.

kraska, ds, maker, rb do you have relevant things to say?

cerbrus, abr, davesaz fuggin do something sometim, kthnx


kts, vifam, appreciate the entertainment i do but lets get together

Yes.

I hid the bodies in the [REDACTED].

In all seriousness, I will have some stuff to say once I get on my PC, but right now I'm on mobile.

[DiamondSentinel]

marry me kraska.

and then sheep me on Drixx.

VOTE: drixx
Drixx is never taking off tho Idk why
I'll probably just end up switching to zanos to end the day if theres no progress
Someone vig drixx tonight pls

You guys are fucking idiots.

I'm a poison doc. The crumb was the season and episode where Dr. House treats a patient who is being poisoned.

with that said

@Mod: Replace out. I can't handle some of these assholes right now.

See what shitting on people gets you, dumb fucks?

Seriously? You're being really really petty right now.

[DiamondSentinel]

So.

Lynches I'm for:
Road Kamelot
Cerberus

Lynches I'm not against:
Mirhawk
Skrub
Masters
Space Dandy

Vigs I am entirely for:
PV
Cerberus

So, I have some definitive reasons that I'll share for some of them.

PV - Lurking PoS, so I always want him vigged. Even when I'm on his team, like MGSV, I hate playing with him because he exclusively lurks.
Space Dandy - I don't know about Varsoon, and I'm not good at reading him, but Shino seems to have lurking as a scumtell. In Cyberpunk, she rarely posted anything while FA did a lot, and they were 3P. In our last game, Shadowrun, we were in a hydra, and she didn't do very much either, and we were scum. But, anecdotes.
Cerberus - I really don't like that whole "I'm being a lurking, shitposting PoS because fuck meta" post. That's enough to move him straight to the top of my "kill it with lynch/fire/bullets/katanas/whatever the fuck that biological warfare and explosives bullshit is, I don't care just make it dead now."

[DiamondSentinel]

Speculating the reasons for a nightkill is rarely valid unless they have some decent reads, or are leading the town. Night actions are rarely reasons to kill. So, I'll let you have your charade, while I do actual scumhunting.

[DiamondSentinel]

Speculating the reasons for a nightkill is rarely valid unless they have some decent reads, or are leading the town. Night actions are rarely reasons to kill. So, I'll let you have your charade, while I do actual scumhunting.

Reasons for the night kill is one of the biggest things towards scum hunting there is. Reads are another. Both put together is scumhunting. If you were in the PT you'd know why my suspicion is very much valid. You can accuse me of not scum hunting but I assure you it makes a fuck ton of sense. I always do NK analysis. It's a great way to catch scum especially when they plan a mislynch on someone but that someone on the scum team is stupid because of NK reasons. NK analysis narrows a pool significantly.

You may not have seen the games that I do, but when people speculate around night actions, it loses them games.

Machina Mafia, it had multiple mislynches because of NK and night action analysis.

[DiamondSentinel]

Speculating the reasons for a nightkill is rarely valid unless they have some decent reads, or are leading the town. Night actions are rarely reasons to kill. So, I'll let you have your charade, while I do actual scumhunting.

Reasons for the night kill is one of the biggest things towards scum hunting there is. Reads are another. Both put together is scumhunting. If you were in the PT you'd know why my suspicion is very much valid. You can accuse me of not scum hunting but I assure you it makes a fuck ton of sense. I always do NK analysis. It's a great way to catch scum especially when they plan a mislynch on someone but that someone on the scum team is stupid because of NK reasons. NK analysis narrows a pool significantly.

Verifying that Vifam did state his intention to check Kraska for a gun in the PT.

Pedit:

VOTE: Mirhawk

Why the fuck did you out that when I was clearly reaction testing?

I still think both are scums.

Wait. Why on Earth are you voting Mirhawk when you supposedly have this 99% guilty NK analysis on kraska...

[DiamondSentinel]

Speculating the reasons for a nightkill is rarely valid unless they have some decent reads, or are leading the town. Night actions are rarely reasons to kill. So, I'll let you have your charade, while I do actual scumhunting.

Reasons for the night kill is one of the biggest things towards scum hunting there is. Reads are another. Both put together is scumhunting. If you were in the PT you'd know why my suspicion is very much valid. You can accuse me of not scum hunting but I assure you it makes a fuck ton of sense. I always do NK analysis. It's a great way to catch scum especially when they plan a mislynch on someone but that someone on the scum team is stupid because of NK reasons. NK analysis narrows a pool significantly.

MathBlade. There is so much about you that doesn't make sense in the slightest.

There's that, there's the 100% certainty that grape was killed by scum of some sort. Your logic is so full of holes and assumptions, and I haven't even been fully vested in the game.

PEdit: Yeah, I noticed that after I posted that. I'm still super confused by his reactions. They make no sense.

[DiamondSentinel]

Speculating the reasons for a nightkill is rarely valid unless they have some decent reads, or are leading the town. Night actions are rarely reasons to kill. So, I'll let you have your charade, while I do actual scumhunting.

Reasons for the night kill is one of the biggest things towards scum hunting there is. Reads are another. Both put together is scumhunting. If you were in the PT you'd know why my suspicion is very much valid. You can accuse me of not scum hunting but I assure you it makes a fuck ton of sense. I always do NK analysis. It's a great way to catch scum especially when they plan a mislynch on someone but that someone on the scum team is stupid because of NK reasons. NK analysis narrows a pool significantly.

Verifying that Vifam did state his intention to check Kraska for a gun in the PT.

Pedit:

VOTE: Mirhawk

Why the fuck did you out that when I was clearly reaction testing?

I still think both are scums.

Wait. Why on Earth are you voting Mirhawk when you supposedly have this 99% guilty NK analysis on kraska...

Pressure investigation and scumhunting thse are things.

And now you make even less sense.

"Anyone who seeks to lynch someone else when having supposedly found a scum is likely scum themselves, and the first target is likely scum as a result."
-Paraphrased from the wiki

[DiamondSentinel]

MathBlade, do you want to know the beauty of that episode?



Nobody except you cares.

Now either get back to the game or go bitch about it on Tumblr. Don't bitch about it on here.

Pardon my french and boyish attitude.

PEdit: OH BOY! OH BOY! THIS IS GONNA BE A FUN DAY, I CAN ALREADY TELL! CONSIDER THIS WAR DECLARED ON YOU!

[DiamondSentinel]

Hell you fucking know this DiamondSentinel you were scum with me in Shadowrun Mafia where site meta said to do things that made it to where we won. (Granted that game had other flaws but still.) You know I hate site meta. To bring up site meta as a reason to discredit me is ridiculous.

Actually, I don't know whether or not you hate site meta.

I didn't even read that game because it was such a shitfest. I literally can't play drafts because of that game. (I mean, they are overall terrible, but that's a moot point). And site meta doesn't lose games. It's people who can't bother to consider that other people might be right that lose game after game after game.

The people who are more right than wrong are skeptical about their insights, while the people who aren't right at all strongarm and bully their way through games until they lose it for the rest. That's the simple fact of mafia right now. It's not "meta v. not meta" bullshit like so many people claim.

PEdit: No, I don't want him lynched. He's obviously town, Arist. I just want to expose him for the shit logic that he has.

[DiamondSentinel]

Anyone who votes Math is either stupid or scum. That's the simple fact of the matter.


Although he should be vigged before LyLo. Because at this rate, he'll lose the game for town then.

[DiamondSentinel]

1. The Tumblr is a joke, (well, more of an insult)

2. Your methods are ineffective. You may be decent as scum (which I don't understand, but considering that those idiots lynched me D1 in Akame, I'm not surprised that you won), but your town game is already shaping up to be subpar.

3. I never said that you specifically were a bully. It was more that I was talking about how previous games have been won and lost. Specifically ones where the people with accurate reads got silenced by TOWN, not scum...

PEdit: Shut up about the god damned pronoun. NOBODY CARES!

[DiamondSentinel]

Now I'm going to bed.

I DO. Imagine if every day of your life everyone called you the wrong pronoun and treated you in the wrong way? If you have that happen to you then you can tell me about not giving two shits. I CARE. The pronoun field is there for a reason.

My methods are fine and need tweaking occasionally. Using my methods I caught HOUSE and CHUCK in another game til Titus came in and ripped it apart. It isn't the methods you should attack it is the result. Does a to b make sense? If you disagree then don't agree wtih my read. All you're doing is shitposting.

Oh, you had Titus issues too? Everyone seems to... Except those that agree with her.


Also, pronouns are a social construct. It shouldn't bother you that much about which pronoun someone addresses you with, because, in the end, it's not what they think about you that matters. It's how you view yourself. /peptalk

PEdit: That's what I'm trying to say. I'm trying to say that him flipping over someone because they used the default pronoun that's been used as such for centuries is dumb.

Also, you can go ahead and do that. I'm going to vote for who I really see as scum, just for bookkeeping. If you need me to jump on your wagon to get the lynch, then I will (although I doubt you will). I just want people to look back when I inevitably flip town and see "hmm, he wanted to lynch X person. We should lynch them, because he must have been onto something"

[DiamondSentinel]

That's fine DS, vote where you feel it's right!

"hmm, he wanted to lynch X person. We should lynch them, because he must have been onto something"

Don't forget this is exactly why were voting Kraska. Because a PR was going to investigate them (aka scumread them) and is now dead.

And yeah, I always assume people's genders online by avatars and speech patterns, so many here have been called "she" (yourself included DS) at different times. It tends to be my go to for online ppl for some reason. It's not generally meant as an offense, it's just hard to keep straight sometimes. I am sorry this has bugged you so much though, Math, and I'm sorry for harping on this. I think it is a point we needed to talk about to move on from though.

I've been called a "she"?

That's sexy...

[DiamondSentinel]

Ooh pagetop

[DiamondSentinel]

I'm going to vote for who I really see as scum

Who are you voting for?

Good point. When I made my post, I completely forgot to vote.

VOTE: Cerberus

[DiamondSentinel]

I'm going to vote for who I really see as scum

Who are you voting for?

Dunno how I feel about Cakez given that he was throwing shade but we share the same top two scumreads? I'm not sure how that works.

Hate everyone on the Masters wagon but its not like all 17 can be scum.


5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
13. SpyreX
^
get bullets



3. The Ascended Masters [Hydra of Bearbert D and Nachomamma8]
8. Road Kamelot
16. Expedience
28. Drixx Norvicodin [Hydra of House and Drixx]
30. Killthestory
^
scum that gets lynched

I really really like the way you think.

[DiamondSentinel]

Vifam ; Jet Black ; Gunsmith With Bebop Access aligned with bounty hunters

got killed by biological warfare and explosives during Night 1.

Spoiler: Jet Black

	Jet Black Gunsmith with Bebop Access Aligned with the Bounty Hunters Gunsmith : You can check one player each night to see if they have a gun or not. Bebop Access : As your Jet Black you have access to the private topic of Bebop members [Redacted] . You will win when all the threats to Bounty hunters (town) are eliminated or nothing can prevent it.
You are Jet Black.Growing up with strong morals, you, reaching maturity, enlist in the Inter-Solar System Police (ISSP) and soon become an investigator. Due to the stubbornness you have when you chase after criminals, your nicknamed the Black Dog: the dog that bites its prey and never lets it go. But everything changed when the love of your life Alisa left you without even telling why and you lost your left arm while following a master criminal, Udai Taxim. These incidents and more, were the reasons you left ISSP to become a bounty hunter. You bought Cowboy Bebop Sheep and found Spike Speigel a lonely bounty hunter cowboy; to team up and haunt criminals for money. Game is on!
Please confirm your role and alignment by sending a message to the moderator account and making a confirm post in this thread .

Ok, so, something that's been bothering me, and I still don't know how to rectify it.

It kraska was scum, and had a gun, then what is with this kill flavor? He was clearly not killed with a gun, so why would he have been killed like this?

It almost makes me wonder if scum is framing Kraska. Or if Kraska just had some Grade A shitluck.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'm going to vote for who I really see as scum

Who are you voting for?

Dunno how I feel about Cakez given that he was throwing shade but we share the same top two scumreads? I'm not sure how that works.

Hate everyone on the Masters wagon but its not like all 17 can be scum.


5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
13. SpyreX
^
get bullets



3. The Ascended Masters [Hydra of Bearbert D and Nachomamma8]
8. Road Kamelot
16. Expedience
28. Drixx Norvicodin [Hydra of House and Drixx]
30. Killthestory
^
scum that gets lynched

I don't care about what the rest of the town is doing.

If it really matters, then I can switch over later, but most of the time, my single vote doesn't help or hurt the wagon.


So, I think I'll just stick with my vote until you guys need it.

PEdit: I'm going to apprehensively say that it couldn't be the poisoner, because poison kills the next night, and Drixx seemed pretty clear that it was regular poison.

[DiamondSentinel]

List of Types of Kills, for Bookkeeping.

• Explosives and Biological Weapons (I guess is 1? I dunno. But it seems that it's 1 based on what FA said)
  
• Shot
  
• Katana

So, based on GTA2 mafia, I'm guessing bulletproof will only work on one type of kill, or at least not on multiple types. So... yeah.

[DiamondSentinel]

not work on all types*

[DiamondSentinel]

List of Types of Kills, for Bookkeeping.

• Explosives and Biological Weapons (I guess is 1? I dunno. But it seems that it's 1 based on what FA said)
  
• Shot
  
• Katana

So, based on GTA2 mafia, I'm guessing bulletproof will only work on one type of kill, or at least not on multiple types. So... yeah.

Flavor. Let's break the game with it!!

Actually, there is a reason behind this list, that I will discuss later.

[DiamondSentinel]

Just realized part of #2061 could be read as if I were talking real life. I meant that I expected to be in the dead thread in this game, not that the medical stuff was that serious.

Haha. Nah.

If you really are a poison doc, it's likely that you will die tomorrow.

[DiamondSentinel]

Well yeah, flavor, let's break the game with it, because it's important. Or the kills wouldn't be seperated like that.

Jason would give each person with a killing ability different flavor, so you could know if the same person did the kill.

But, despite any wording, they were all standard kills blocked by bulletproof or detectable by Gunsmith.

I bring this up since we already had a Gunsmith flip.

I would request that the vigilante kill PV tonight. (or today, if it's a dayvig). He has been continually trying to lead the town astray with this whole kill flavor thing, despite the mod's perpetual clarification that pointed specifically to support our interpretation...

[DiamondSentinel]

DS why am I scum?

Pisskop, what do you mean? Site meta is moving towards gut bullshit, and we're not using gut bullshit, so that's a problem for you?

Your whole "If you see me not doing shit, that's because I'm not doing anything deliberately because fuck meta" really pisses me off.

It's either anti-town or downright scum. Either of which warrants death.

[DiamondSentinel]

Well yeah, flavor, let's break the game with it, because it's important. Or the kills wouldn't be seperated like that.

Jason would give each person with a killing ability different flavor, so you could know if the same person did the kill.

But, despite any wording, they were all standard kills blocked by bulletproof or detectable by Gunsmith.

I bring this up since we already had a Gunsmith flip.

I would request that the vigilante kill PV tonight. (or today, if it's a dayvig). He has been continually trying to lead the town astray with this whole kill flavor thing, despite the mod's perpetual clarification that pointed specifically to support our interpretation...

I would like to request the vig kill DiamondSentinel tonight. They may use a bullet, katana, explosives and/or biologicals, or merely strangle him, if desired.

At least I'm actually trying...

[DiamondSentinel]

His behavior reminds me of DiamondSentinel when he was SK.

I'm actually quite insulted.

The only reason you caught me was because you "caught" me for the wrong reasons and then I blew up about it.

[DiamondSentinel]

Vote: Mirhawk

Oh hi naked vote. My name is WHAT THE SERIOUS FUCK IS GOING ON IN YOUR MIND! USE YOUR WORDS DAMMIT. I WANT TO KNOW


but seriously. Stop with the naked votes, please. They just show that you have no interest in actually playing.



Oh, to any lurkers, if you have less content than PV, I humbly suggest that you slap yourself, then get on your keyboard, and actually make content. Because that is unacceptable. (sorry PV, but you know it's true. You do have a tendency to compulsively lurk)

[DiamondSentinel]

Like I don't have a lot of time right now but the reasons for killing kraska seem like moonbeams when we have confirmed scum in the neighborhood. If your scumbuddy saw a town PR claiming to investigate

anyone

, friend or foe, wouldn't you kill the shit out of that town PR?

The PGO claim doesn't really make sense as a claim coming from scum in this position. I'll have more to say once kraska answers the previous questions.

Huh. For the first time, TAM, I find something in your posts actually worth saying. Bravo. You have found yet ANOTHER reason that today is a scum-machinated farce.

[DiamondSentinel]

I was. And then I realized that it we flip Kraska and she's scum then that practically confirms the existence of a mole

No. That kill basically confirms the existence of a mole.

[DiamondSentinel]

I was. And then I realized that it we flip Kraska and she's scum then that practically confirms the existence of a mole

No. That kill basically confirms the existence of a mole.

Right now there's like a 90% of it. If Kraska flips scum then that percentage goes up to like 99%

Yet there's a less than 50% chance that Kraska is scum, fmpov.

There are so many coincidences that have to occur in order for that kill to be to defend Kraska. First, she has to have a "shot" kill flavor. Second, the scum have to have no form of disruption power, be it roleblocker, redirector, commuter, etc. Thirdly, this also assumes that there were 2 unrelated kills made on them.

Personally, I find the PGO to be much more likely than her being scum.

[DiamondSentinel]

DS why am I scum?

Pisskop, what do you mean? Site meta is moving towards gut bullshit, and we're not using gut bullshit, so that's a problem for you?

Your whole "If you see me not doing shit, that's because I'm not doing anything deliberately because fuck meta" really pisses me off.

It's either anti-town or downright scum. Either of which warrants death.

I'm not doing anything deliberately because fuck meta? I'm not doing anything because I'm being lazy and I have other games I'd rather focus on until I get to the part of the game I'm best at. ^^

The fact that doing so is out of character for me is just icing really.

Then kindly replace out and let people who actually care in.

Whats this mole-thing we're talking about? Does that mean traitor or scum or something? There's no explanation I see when I hit search and I'm not sifting through 80 some pages to infer its meaning.

Not a traitor, as that would mean that the kill on vifam was complete coincidence (which I haven't ruled out yet, either). They mean someone in bebop who is also scum.

[DiamondSentinel]

His behavior reminds me of DiamondSentinel when he was SK.

I'm actually quite insulted.

The only reason you caught me was because you "caught" me for the wrong reasons and then I blew up about it.

You don't know my reasons. The reasons I gave were what was necessary to get you to blow up.

Vote: Mirhawk

Oh hi naked vote. My name is WHAT THE SERIOUS FUCK IS GOING ON IN YOUR MIND! USE YOUR WORDS DAMMIT. I WANT TO KNOW


but seriously. Stop with the naked votes, please. They just show that you have no interest in actually playing.



Oh, to any lurkers, if you have less content than PV, I humbly suggest that you slap yourself, then get on your keyboard, and actually make content. Because that is unacceptable. (sorry PV, but you know it's true. You do have a tendency to compulsively lurk)

Competing wagons is even better, calm your tits and don't be a shit disturber for no reason.

1. First part was a joke.
2. Competing wagons don't work if nobody explains about one or either wagon.
3. I'm not being a shit disturber.

[DiamondSentinel]

So, this whole issue is really confusing. If we assume that Kraska is lying, and they killed to cover it up, then why wouldn't the kill flavor be "shot"? That doesn't make any sense.

I can present 2 probabilities.

1. Kraska had nothing to do with it, and the spy wanted to frame them. This would mean the kill flavor needed to be explored in more detail later, but that could be done after tomorrow's kill.
2. The scum don't have a spy in the neighborhood.

Personally, I find the first more likely, but only marginally.


If you want to argue it, I can go through my whole thought process and the inconsistencies this is providing, but I doubt anyone really cares that much.

[DiamondSentinel]

DS, this is all complicated by kraskas pgo claim, which provides another explanation for vifams death.

Spyrex, wtf are you saying? 1 non scum kill? 2 non town kills? There's no reason why all the kills couldn't be from anti-town factions.
My point is that the kill on vifam means NOTHING with regards to kraskas alignment, or that of those in the hood.

While also a very valid point, it's an unlikely one. There's the major issue of the inconsistencies brought up by doubting Vraska's claim as well.

PEdit: PV, I was in MGSV with you. You lurked.

[DiamondSentinel]

Holy shit this shitfest is just ugly.

[DiamondSentinel]

Expe could be scum WKing yeah
But Nero is probably scum too

This is terrible.
So far we have Diamond and Cakez as scum.
Easy game easy money.

Oh Vedith...

Could you post more? I disagree with literally every statement that you've made, but at the same time, it's bad play to assume someone is scum just because every one of their posts is shit.


So, let me read you.

[DiamondSentinel]

VOTE: Skrub

Btw I'm fine w claiming different gender identity but the "did you just assume my gender" people are retarded. They are.

Ok, you can be town this game.

[DiamondSentinel]

Detective Vedith at it again

Thanks, I'm putting in over time!

I see you're going for quantity over quality.

[DiamondSentinel]

vedith is off. like i said, he dodged the whole zanos thing yesterday, and he did the same to the whole vifam kill drama today. he doesnt have anything to say when it comes to the most controversial wagons. i think he's scum

I can't be scum.
However, Diamond and Cakez can be.
Happy for a lynch on either.

Also your argument here is "didn't vote town, he's scum". GTFO.

Please, list your ridiculous reasons why I'm scum.

I really need something to laugh at. The laugh I got from the debate has worn off.

[DiamondSentinel]

vedith is off. like i said, he dodged the whole zanos thing yesterday, and he did the same to the whole vifam kill drama today. he doesnt have anything to say when it comes to the most controversial wagons. i think he's scum

VOTE: skrub

I hear posturing. Do you hear that? I most certainly do.

His downright refusal to make more content, his "I wasn't going to get on a town wagon", and his complete and utter lack of reasons for Nero and my scumreads makes me think that he's a scum that knew zanos was town, and was trying to be attached to a town lynch, as well as one who wants to avoid saying anything that could potentially be used against him later.

VOTE: Vedith

PEdit: Then you're the stalker, Cerb.

[DiamondSentinel]

People saying that Moz was a counter wagon, that's dumb. People moved off of my wagon and onto that one because we had

light image reasons

to scumread them. They were scummy as hell.

What does the underlined mean?

Legitimate reasons

If you can't provide evidence, then it's not legitimate.

Sorry to disappoint you, but that's not true. Human intuition works predominantly in the subconsciousness, so you can "feel" a certain thing without being able to explain it. C'est a dire, just because someone can't explain why they think what they are thinking doesn't mean it's not a valid thought process.

Granted, I'm not saying that you should blindly follow every intuitive "feeling" you have, but it's worth giving them (and other peoples') credence.

PEdit: I call bullshit on that

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh, btw, what on earth are you and Skrub arguing about, davesaz. I was just embarking on a psychological/philosophical lecture without knowing the context. plz tell

[DiamondSentinel]

@Skrub please spoiler that in the future. That was far too long.

[DiamondSentinel]

@mod Space Dandy hasn't posted for 5 days (yes, I get there was a 2 day interlude in there for night phase). Could you prod them?

[DiamondSentinel]

And same with KTS

[DiamondSentinel]

@mod Space Dandy hasn't posted for 5 days (yes, I get there was a 2 day interlude in there for night phase). Could you prod them?

They weren't eligible for a prod before night start and this day isn't yet 48 hours long for me to start prodding people. They will receive a prod in 2 hours,

Though I will poke them cause you requested.

edit : same with KTS

Yeah, it's just that I find that games tend to be ruined by lurkers.

(especially when you have an unkillable lurker, cough PV cough MGSV cough)

Dandy is simply going with the flow babies, relax. I will be here when I am needed here. Take it easy.

Yeah, well who is scum, then?

[DiamondSentinel]

Watch him be an untrod alt.

That'd be funny. But illogical.

[DiamondSentinel]

So, you guys have fun arguing about the noob/alt. I'll be doing actual scumhunting.

[DiamondSentinel]

I wouldn't be opposed to a KTS lynch. You help me get more people, and I'll gladly join that wagon.

PEdit: Metal Gear Solid V Mafia. You, me, T-Bone, and somebody else were all the scum team and we literally led lynches on you 3 days in order to give us the win, since you were unkillable.

[DiamondSentinel]

I wouldn't be opposed to a KTS lynch. You help me get more people, and I'll gladly join that wagon.

PEdit: Metal Gear Solid V Mafia. You, me, T-Bone, and somebody else were all the scum team and we literally led lynches on you 3 days in order to give us the win, since you were unkillable.

Just looked that one over. I think my goal was to strategically lurk to draw scumreads on my and push for my (ineffectual) lynch.

Currently, I'm neither scum nor unkillable nor lurking.

Yes... That's what you have done literally every game I've been in with you. That makes COMPLETE SENSE.

God, now you're just lying out your ass.

[DiamondSentinel]

I wouldn't be opposed to a KTS lynch. You help me get more people, and I'll gladly join that wagon.

PEdit: Metal Gear Solid V Mafia. You, me, T-Bone, and somebody else were all the scum team and we literally led lynches on you 3 days in order to give us the win, since you were unkillable.

Just looked that one over. I think my goal was to strategically lurk to draw scumreads on my and push for my (ineffectual) lynch.

Currently, I'm neither scum nor unkillable nor lurking.

Yes... That's what you have done literally every game I've been in with you. That makes COMPLETE SENSE.

God, now you're just lying out your ass.

There is no PereV wagon???

Do you want there to be one? Because that's a waste of a wagon. He should be vigged with EXTREME PREJUDICE.

[DiamondSentinel]

Scratch that. He's not actually being that bad this game.

[DiamondSentinel]

i just skimmed the thread, and it's a lot more useless stuff.

you all suck at scumhunting. seriously.

Actually, a fair amount of it is worth reading, and if you refuse to read it, we might just put you on the chopping block again.

[DiamondSentinel]

god it's so unfun to have to come back to people like you

didn't i already tell you to shut up numerous times?

You first.

[DiamondSentinel]

Do you want there to be one? Because that's a waste of a wagon. He should be vigged with EXTREME PREJUDICE.

naw, much better vig shots in DGB and Space, Exp and Cakez in that order.

Additionally if the vig wants to shoot the scum they are free to shoot any of KTS, Cerb, AM and Road. I still think House/Drixx were kinda scummy and I'm going to expect to start seeing content from Drixx...I don't think that's to much to ask but I think he'll work itself out. Kling hasn't said anything that has made me want to poke my eyes out like she normally does so I'm kinda worried she might be scum. That needs investigation as does Math and Random.

When I wake up I'll review the Scrub case and look at Spyrex again and see how I feel.

I'm not sure about Cakez. Exp I would be fine with, but I do agree that they should be one of the latter ones. I see Cakez as pretty strong town.

[DiamondSentinel]

Fuck ive gotten behind in this game
Whos scum friendorinos

Still KTS.

[DiamondSentinel]

god it's so unfun to have to come back to people like you

didn't i already tell you to shut up numerous times?

You first.

haha funn y cvomeback!! xddd

Why is everybody scum reading you?

Because he's made negative content or contributions to the game, he's told active players to "shut up" and that he'll ignore them, etc. The usual scummy behavior.

[DiamondSentinel]

I wouldn't be opposed to a KTS lynch. You help me get more people, and I'll gladly join that wagon.

PEdit: Metal Gear Solid V Mafia. You, me, T-Bone, and somebody else were all the scum team and we literally led lynches on you 3 days in order to give us the win, since you were unkillable.

Just looked that one over. I think my goal was to strategically lurk to draw scumreads on my and push for my (ineffectual) lynch.

Currently, I'm neither scum nor unkillable nor lurking.

Yes... That's what you have done literally every game I've been in with you. That makes COMPLETE SENSE.

God, now you're just lying out your ass.

There is no PereV wagon???

Why should there be a PV wagon? Like, PV lurks and is pretty useless as either alignment (see: Wake's role madness), and he just said the sort of stupid thing that got the Ircher/BTD hydra lynched as lynchbait. Is there a case on PV beyond that? I mean, as lurky as he's been (the mod has more than 3x his posts which is hilarious), he's not the low poster of the game. Per activity summary, he's at 18 posts, you're at 7, varsoon/shiro is at 4, random is at 13, and nos is at 14. Drixx is also at 12, but the hydra had >50 posts before House outed. So unless there's more to a PV read than "let's lynch the lurky lurker who's lurking like usual", that seems like a null slot, not a obvious wagon. What am I missing?

PV should never be a mod, but he should always be on a list for a vigilante shot. If you go with the "he's lurking like usual so just keep him at null until endgame", then you'll end up with a repeat of Metal Gear Solid 5, which I've mentioned numerous times.

[DiamondSentinel]

At some point PV will need to be sorted. My point is that DGB's "why isn't there a PV wagon right now" bit was weird given that PV's doing what he seemingly always does (not to mention that DGB is lurking even harder than PV).

I'll try and spend time reading in detail tomorrow; I'd took a quick skim and that seemed pretty odd, but I do need to actually spend time getting caught up.

I can also answer that.

DGB has no tolerance whatsoever for PV's lurking. As in, even less than I do. In Cyberpunk, she used her PT after death to tell me to lynch PV in a PMyLo situation because he was lurking. And that I was stupid. But that's not important.

[DiamondSentinel]

Sometimes. Honestly, it depends. She lurked hardcore in SaGa, and flipped scum, but she just lurked in early-game in Cyberpunk, and flipped town. As far as I can tell, it's NAI for her.

[DiamondSentinel]

its nai for everyone

Do you have to disagree with everything I say? Is this a post restriction or something?

Don't answer that. It's a rhetorical question.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'll follow my gut and trust Nero.

VOTE: TAM

[DiamondSentinel]

Okay, so with a quick look at this game's stats thus far, I have some interesting revelations.
1) I subbed in just 2 IRL days into the game and it was already, like, 60 pages or something!? Wtf everyone!
2) 8 living players have over 100 posts. 6 are between 50 and 99. The other 14 (Yes, that's half the game) are 1-49 posts. I think some people in this game are over talking and drowning the thread, while others either get lost in the sea of words and either can't keep up (like myself, RK, Mirhawk, and the Beardbert head is AM) or are choosing to lurk, and easily getting away with it. I'm not saying all this content is bad, but there is an awful lot of one sided content being generated, which is hurting the towns chances at survival. I'll make an effort to wade through the posts that have been made, but I think those who are posting an intense amount or walling all over the thread should take into consideration the effect they are having on the game when doing so.
3) DGB is in the game!? Why is this something I didn't know!? Why haven't they posted, like, anything!? (See #2 for a possible answer.)
4) Somebody (Drixx IIRC) is due do a prod.
5) Frozen, the Mod, had 76 posts. That's more posts than 18 of the living players. When this is the case, there is something wrong.

1. Yes, but the issue is, most of it is shitposts, but there are so many shitposters that we can't lynch the shitposters.
2. While this is partially true, that's not the whole story. The quality of people in the 100+ range varies greatly. KTS and pisskop (along with rb from yesterday) have a much much lower ratio of "actual posts" to "shitposts", while Kraska and TAM have done more stuff. (granted, it's that stuff that's kinda gotten them scumread, but that's a moot point.)
3. Indeed. If she doesn't pick up content tomorrow, I'm going to seriously request a vig on her, because D3 is really the day that separates scum DGB from town DGB.
4. A lot of people have been due prods but just missed it because they got lucky with FA's sleep schedule.

No reason to really address 5. It's just a true statement.

[DiamondSentinel]

Nero Cain likely scum with Kraska.

People shit claim at start of game all the time.

There is no way a mason PGO exists so Nero or Kraska is a liar people. Or both which is what I think.

Math, how many games have you played with Nero?

[DiamondSentinel]

I think Nero is the most town player right now

And I'm willing to keep kraska around because it's testable and it also allows us to test people into it.

....Except she is two shot which implies control over it. Which means limited paranoia which is ridiculous and if it is true then if she is scum then she doesn't have to turn it on. Which just wastes a ton of PRs that direction at night. Because we sure as hell aren't announcing in this thread who would visit Kraska.

The entire idea of throwing people at Kraska is terribad.

One of these things is not like the other. One of these things just doesn't belong. Can you tell me which thing is not like the other, before I finish my-

It's the last statement! Because that's the only true one!

[DiamondSentinel]

Nero Cain likely scum with Kraska.

People shit claim at start of game all the time.

There is no way a mason PGO exists so Nero or Kraska is a liar people. Or both which is what I think.

Math, how many games have you played with Nero?

I remember one and it was a replace in to a scum slot (Gunslingers). Did the same sort of shit.

I've yet to play with him as scum, but I can also attest that he uses some, eh, unorthadox strategies as town.

[DiamondSentinel]

He is saying I am a brilliant scum mastermind who pretty much when I look obv town I am scum. I am obvtown so ABR is trying to say the meta is similar.

However ABR can't read me for shit and figured it out much too late in Shadowrun Mafia and is salty.

It is the biggest backhanded compliment and an excuse to policy lynch.

At some points the scum PT reached half the main thread because I had to keep all the stories straight. It was hell. I do not want to play Shadowrun Mafia ever again. I hated that game.

Ok. That's not correct. You may be good, but the 2 recent games you've been scum in the town has been absolutely awful. Shadowrun was an absolute shitfest that this game might turn into if we aren't careful, and Akame was... Well, I really shouldn't have to explain Akame. They lynched an obv!town player (I'm not bragging about this. This is literally the first thing people said in the deadchat when I was lynched) D1.

If you happen to have other games that show this, go ahead, but don't get a big head because you won 2 scum games recently. If you don't win most of your scum games, there's a serious issue, especially in the Theme Game queue, because there is a 70/30 winrate for scum here or somethin. The games that town wins are typically really really impressive.

[DiamondSentinel]

I have only two true "losses" as scum where I fucked up. The other I got killed at night by strongman scum as infinitely bulletproof.

The other was a boned slot on replace in.

I have a greater than 50% winrate as scum.

Most people do on-site.

[DiamondSentinel]

I mean, I couldn't give a rat's behind about winning, so I just do ridiculous stuff, and even I have a scum winrate of over 50%

[DiamondSentinel]

I have only two true "losses" as scum where I fucked up. The other I got killed at night by strongman scum as infinitely bulletproof.

The other was a boned slot on replace in.

I have a greater than 50% winrate as scum.

Most people do on-site.

Good comedy. Most people can't. Not possible.

Actually, it's entirely possible.

If every game scum wins, then everyone has a 100% (or something like that, because there are opposing scum factions) winrate as scum.

Obviously that does'nt happen, but the vast majority of games are won by scum.


You evidently don't know your statistics very well. You don't pit scum against scum all the time. Almost everyone can win their scum games.

[DiamondSentinel]

That makes you good scum.

No... It just makes you a scummer right now.

The current meta is that if you're scum, you have a massive advantage. If you're town, you really have to work hard to kill scum.

[DiamondSentinel]

I hate site meta. I suck as town. Completely suck.

The site meta of scum having an advantage is an excuse for bad play. Scum have to hide that they have knowledge. That is the biggest thing to fake as scum. And the more moving parts the easier it is to slip.

No, the site meta is just the fact that it's easy to lie over a screen, since you don't have to deal with all that mucking around with facial emotions.

Additionally, the way town plays right now is that everything has to have a reason which just doesn't work. If everything could just use reasons, then there would be no reason for dissenting readlists. Instead, intuition should take a much bigger role in the way people scumhunt, but nobody is willing to give it a shot.

[DiamondSentinel]

I really like the 3 people on this TAM wagon. I mean, SirCakez, Nero, and me.

I see Sir and Nero as fairly clearly town.

[DiamondSentinel]

And then of course I'm the most obv!scum that obv!scum can be.

/s

[DiamondSentinel]

I seriously want KTS dead now.

[DiamondSentinel]

and you wonder why no one listens to you

At least I am capable of actually pressuring people. I don't know what you were trying to do, but it's certainly not pressuring.

[DiamondSentinel]

rk you literally have no strong scumreads at all wtf?

like at first i wasnt srs but now i am in that vote because you genuinely seem scum because no literal hard scum thingies. its day 2. shape y[.

Yeah i really should like i just dont have a handle on thia game here
Considering replacing but it would lead to the same problems so fuck that

Also i believe ABR on bein busy so
KTS is town too, and Diamond
gonna townhunt and poe scum i think

shut up replace out or contribute srry.

Youre still not doing shit. You're townhunting, but you're using that as a backdoor excuse to not scumhunt. You're not doing anything. Your posts reflect someone who's simply making the content without the contribution.

srry ur lynch today claim now or die

Can we not force obv!towns to claim please? That's strictly anti-town.

[DiamondSentinel]

did i ask you?

No. I give my input freely.

[DiamondSentinel]

did i ask you?

No. I give my input freely.

ive already told you to shut up

Could you not? FA already expressed her interest in people NOT being assholes to each other.

[DiamondSentinel]

The solution is to PL people.

Why is this site so afraid of enforcing a code of conduct that isnt from moderators?

Who would we PL?

[DiamondSentinel]

diamond kindly tell me why im obvtown to you

@KTS theres no way im replacing out now bro im just here to spite u

Obv!town is never something I can explain. It's just a feeling I get. I have a few people who are just obv!town to me. You, Arist, and KC are the biggest.

trolls

-DS
-Dandy

Lurkers

-ABR (but damn his content is good when he is here)
-Klingon Stage 5
-RK to an extent
-Daveso
-Math
-KTS qualifies as a fringe case

Scummy apathetics

-Skrublord
-Kraska
-TAM to a point
-shit - whoever else is in the game I cant remember 30 names Im not a

monkey

And how am I trolling?

[DiamondSentinel]

Ok, we need to do something about this right now.

Everyone, post their top 3 lynches for today.

No more talk about PLs or whatever until a fair amount of people do this.


To be a good example, my top 3 are KTS, Road, and TAM, in no particular order.

[DiamondSentinel]

So is this the scene where the person everyone was shittalking ends up having been behind them the whole time and it's super awkward?

PEdit: Ooh, that hurts. Why don't you like me? I never said I wanted you dead... I just pointed out that you have a tendency to lurk as scum...

[DiamondSentinel]

I'm a miller.

I like it quick and painless.

Considering the rest of the iso that miller claim is pretty sketch

Grapes already died

Don't bother correcting her for now. She is reading the entire game for the first time.

[DiamondSentinel]

Ok, we need to do something about this right now.

Everyone, post their top 3 lynches for today.

No more talk about PLs or whatever until a fair amount of people do this.


To be a good example, my top 3 are KTS, Road, and TAM, in no particular order.

LOL Diamond are you scum????
You called me obvtown two posts ago and now I'm on your lynch list like wtf

Yes, Freudian slip. You're scum. Never been obv!town. RachMarie is the obv!town one. I don't know why, but I associate you two, Nero and Cakez, and KC and Aristophanes. The last 2 pairs I've always confused, and then you are new.

[DiamondSentinel]

I've also done this with Spiffeh and Hiplop, and Antihero and Fakegod. You can check my previous games to show that I'm not lying. It happens all the freaking time.

[DiamondSentinel]

I've also done this with Spiffeh and Hiplop, and Antihero and Fakegod. You can check my previous games to show that I'm not lying. It happens all the freaking time.

I've definitely done this with Spifflop, and have a few others where ir happens.
Myself and KC are an interesting one that I wouldn't have seen coming. But she's super cool so i don't mind at all!

Also, I'm not gonna post for now in case FA wants the Pagetop.

It's cause both y'all are lying sons of bitches from my first game on site. (I think you were both in AvF, the source of my confusion b/w AH and FG)

[DiamondSentinel]

I've also done this with Spiffeh and Hiplop, and Antihero and Fakegod. You can check my previous games to show that I'm not lying. It happens all the freaking time.

I've definitely done this with Spifflop, and have a few others where ir happens.
Myself and KC are an interesting one that I wouldn't have seen coming. But she's super cool so i don't mind at all!

Also, I'm not gonna post for now in case FA wants the Pagetop.

It's cause both y'all are lying sons of bitches from my first game on site. (I think you were both in AvF, the source of my confusion b/w AH and FG)

Hahaha that was a great game! XD

I had a lot of fun toying with you tbh

YOU WERE A BITCH! YOU HEAR ME! A BIIIIIIIITCH

[DiamondSentinel]

But it wasn't you. It was Shinobi that ruined it.

[DiamondSentinel]

YOU WERE A BITCH! YOU HEAR ME! A BIIIIIIIITCH

I'm making this one of my Sig quotes postgame, just fyi! XD

My townread on you there was legit though!

Fmpov nobody ruined that game, but of course, I was on the winning end of things, so that kind of makes sense.

I actually have somewhat of a TR on you now also, since we're on the subject. I think you have good insights and shit.

It wasn't that it ruined it. It was that he destroyed me.

Should this replace the NM or FB quote, DS?

FB definitely

Also, why am I suddenly being quoted in signatures? You're the second one in a week.

[DiamondSentinel]

Is this a question as to why I am not voting or why he is not voting for me?

interpret it as if im speaking to you

Can do!

I am not voting because I do not have the basis to do so, and because I have accepted that one vote, at this point in the game, serves little purpose unless one can be active in pushing it and convincing others, and believes in it strongly enough to do so. I do not believe that I have any of the above qualities this game, at least at this point, so there is no reason to vote at this juncture.

However, there are wagons I would support and some I would not. I have made this clear, and will join the appropriate wagons when the time comes.

For example, RandonIdget's Iso is shit on a stick. But if I
VOTE: RandomIdget
it accomplishes virtually nothing. Thus I see no point in doing so.

Shiro is always a bit inactive. Especially in hydrae. I have yet to see a game where she wasn't when in a hydra.

[DiamondSentinel]

No, that PL list is bullshit and it makes me think PK is scum.

[DiamondSentinel]

trolls

-DS
-Dandy

Lurkers

-ABR (but damn his content is good when he is here)
-Klingon Stage 5
-RK to an extent
-Daveso
-Math
-KTS qualifies as a fringe case

Scummy apathetics

-Skrublord
-Kraska
-TAM to a point
-shit - whoever else is in the game I cant remember 30 names Im not a

monkey

The trolls make no sense whatsoever. Regardless of me, it's impossible for someone who barely posted to be trolling (space dandy).
Your lurkers are DEFINITELY not the worst lurkers. Like, you didn't even try.
A PL shouldn't be dependent on scumminess. Or, more accurately, if a person is scummy, then they aren't a PL. They are just a lynch.

Each of your categories is complete bullshit and I recommend you get vigged after PV.

[DiamondSentinel]

trolls

-DS
-Dandy

Lurkers

-ABR (but damn his content is good when he is here)
-Klingon Stage 5
-RK to an extent
-Daveso
-Math
-KTS qualifies as a fringe case

Scummy apathetics

-Skrublord
-Kraska
-TAM to a point
-shit - whoever else is in the game I cant remember 30 names Im not a

monkey

The trolls make no sense whatsoever. Regardless of me, it's impossible for someone who barely posted to be trolling (space dandy).
Your lurkers are DEFINITELY not the worst lurkers. Like, you didn't even try.
A PL shouldn't be dependent on scumminess. Or, more accurately, if a person is scummy, then they aren't a PL. They are just a lynch.

Each of your categories is complete bullshit and I recommend you get vigged after PV.

so im scum because... ... ... you want to play theorycraft?

get wrecked

You're scum because your PL list is bullshit. More than likely, at least half of those people are really just people you want out of your way. Or perhaps the people who fit those categories, yet weren't included, are your scumbuddies. It's pretty obvious that you have an ulterior motive.

[DiamondSentinel]

Is this scum theater or something?

Is this buzzword cabaret or something?

[DiamondSentinel]

[sigh]

Too many lurkers. Too many players overall, but too many lurkers. I'm going to limit myself to 5 posts per day, and I suggest that all the other top posters do the same.

[DiamondSentinel]

Why? What has Diamond done that warrants a lynch?

He confessed to being scum.
Back in my day, being scum had a penalty of death.

...

[DiamondSentinel]

Why? What has Diamond done that warrants a lynch?

He confessed to being scum.
Back in my day, being scum had a penalty of death.

...

I mean, you can always vote Cakez for some town cred...

But why would I vote for a townread of mine?

Also, if you're saying that I'm scum just because I happen to disagree with you on a read, that's also scummy.

So... yeah.