The question is would you hard defend townIn post 1014, MariaR wrote:The only time I hard defended a partner is when I was begged to do it in open 646
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1) Eager was on her all dayIn post 1022, Shadow_step wrote:Its not opportunistic. Eager has been cced. He is conf scum. Why is boring's vote opportunistic and not PP?
2) Naked vote following a major case<Embrace The Void>
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Can you please vote Eager now?In post 1020, MariaR wrote:
Okay now this is true.In post 1019, Shadow_step wrote:
I'm saying you are capable.In post 1014, MariaR wrote:The only time I hard defended a partner is when I was begged to do it in open 646
I don't know your meta, we only played one game where you were scum.
*makes puppy face*
Prism you shouldn't be okay with the boring wagon because of your scum reads and you should be voting eager.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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I want to say uhhh Yes?In post 1026, eagerSnake wrote:
The question is would you hard defend townIn post 1014, MariaR wrote:The only time I hard defended a partner is when I was begged to do it in open 646
I've never been put in that spot but I imagine I wouldI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Pls not the puppy faceIn post 1028, Shadow_step wrote:
Can you please vote Eager now?In post 1020, MariaR wrote:
Okay now this is true.In post 1019, Shadow_step wrote:
I'm saying you are capable.In post 1014, MariaR wrote:The only time I hard defended a partner is when I was begged to do it in open 646
I don't know your meta, we only played one game where you were scum.
*makes puppy face*
Prism you shouldn't be okay with the boring wagon because of your scum reads and you should be voting eager.
I don't see why eager would claim right at day start as scum
his logic seems to add up at least to me
Honestly I'm at the point where if boring doesn't flip scum I'm gonna take another look at snake I really think you're just wrong here.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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You mean I'm doing exactly what I should do regardless of alignment, which makes my actions eitherIn post 1023, Prism wrote:Eager playing his role strongly he's doing exactly what I'd expect if he was cc'd scum
A) Genuine townplay
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That isn't what I asked.In post 1027, Gamma Emerald wrote:
1) Eager was on her all dayIn post 1022, Shadow_step wrote:Its not opportunistic. Eager has been cced. He is conf scum. Why is boring's vote opportunistic and not PP?
2) Naked vote following a major case
Why isn't PP's vote also opportunistic?ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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It probably also is, but PP didn't give a BS townread on you.In post 1032, Shadow_step wrote:
That isn't what I asked.In post 1027, Gamma Emerald wrote:
1) Eager was on her all dayIn post 1022, Shadow_step wrote:Its not opportunistic. Eager has been cced. He is conf scum. Why is boring's vote opportunistic and not PP?
2) Naked vote following a major case
Why isn't PP's vote also opportunistic?<Embrace The Void>
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Him gambiting makes more sense than two ascetics.In post 1030, MariaR wrote:
Pls not the puppy faceIn post 1028, Shadow_step wrote:
Can you please vote Eager now?In post 1020, MariaR wrote:
Okay now this is true.In post 1019, Shadow_step wrote:
I'm saying you are capable.In post 1014, MariaR wrote:The only time I hard defended a partner is when I was begged to do it in open 646
I don't know your meta, we only played one game where you were scum.
*makes puppy face*
Prism you shouldn't be okay with the boring wagon because of your scum reads and you should be voting eager.
I don't see why eager would claim right at day start as scum
his logic seems to add up at least to me
Honestly I'm at the point where if boring doesn't flip scum I'm gonna take another look at snake I really think you're just wrong here.
Let's just imagine I was a VT and he was mafia fking ascetic.
Look at the rewards, he gets townread till day 2 at least and won't be bothered at night.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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@eager - I'm not sure you understand what buddying means. Most of what you posted was criticism. Also, why do you keep repeating that I'm happy about the conflict? I've been around for very little of this little scum theater.
@town? - eager has been coasting, and the only thing in the way of my gut scumlean was the fact that he had an uncc'd claim. A cc from an obvious town player was more than enough reason to vote him. Either way, how can so many of you accept eager's piss-poor "town" performance without resistance? I mean, eager has bragged twice now about how shitty town is playing by not calling him out for his lazy vote. You're all just taking the insult with pride, it would appear. The only positive thing I can say about this development is my wagon. It decreases the likelihood that eagerSnake, MariaR and implosion are ALL scum. I'll have to try to knock at least one out of the running.
If scum want to chainsaw me up to L-1, that's fine, but don't let them hammer without warning. I'll try to be back again tomorrow to check on things.
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It might be, but I'd prefer you not anyway, as that removes a vote to analyze, and in my first game lynches where the victim self voted were: a reasonable case(Oracle), scum, and an unreasonable case(town Tracker CCed scum Tracker).In post 1033, eagerSnake wrote:@GammaI'm sure you've seen my spiel about self-voting as town... Question: Do you think that this situation warrants being a pro-town reason for wanting to be lynched?<Embrace The Void>
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Where do you get "scum theater?" Who am I scum theatering with?In post 1037, boring wrote:Also, why do you keep repeating that I'm happy about the conflict? I've been around for very little of this little scum theater.-
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I have exactly 0 trust in your ability to scumread. Between 614 and 628 you imply (Penguin) or directly state (7 other names) feel scummy. That's 8/13 town members. Your list in 1013 has 3 people (myself included) who I feel are towny.In post 1023, Prism wrote:
The same thing I've been saying the past 5+ pages, nn30 and implosion are my top two scumreads and despite Eager playing his role strongly he's doing exactly what I'd expect if he was cc'd scum. If it flips town I wouldn't be shocked at either of you/Gamma turning out to be scum.In post 1015, MariaR wrote:WHAT IS THIS BS?????
I realize.In post 1016, Gamma Emerald wrote: Wagon is 5 people.
I didn't respond to your line of questioning towards me originally because without an "@nn30" somewhere in the post I'm likely to skim it and assume it was addressed to someone else.
The fact that I failed to reply to you is not enough of a reason to scum read me.
As far as my read of implosion, I still don't town read him but I found his responses to my lines of questioning satisfying (for the time being). Plus he dropped off the face of the map, nobody else seemed interested in talking about him, so I moved on.-
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I don't think realizing that getting Shadow lynched is suicidal takes a mafia genius and you're not going to sell me on that one.eagerSnake wrote:You mean I'm doing exactly what I should do regardless of alignment, which makes my actions either
A) Genuine townplay
OR
B) Perfect scumplay
Pls not the puppy faceIn post 1030, MariaR wrote:Prism you shouldn't be okay with the boring wagon because of your scum reads and you should be voting eager.
I don't see why eager would claim right at day start as scum
his logic seems to add up at least to me
Honestly I'm at the point where if boring doesn't flip scum I'm gonna take another look at snake I really think you're just wrong here.[/quote]You claim at the day start and get the risk of being found ascetic out of the way immediately. I believe he's ascetic-I doubt he's a town one. You don't expect two in a game even if you're mafia.
As far as taking other looks at people, I again urge to to ISO nn30 if you are town.
I'm not okay with it and I'm voting one of my top two scumreads, I can vote Eager but I doubt it will do much good without serious reconsideration of the people on the wagon to begin with.In post 1028, Shadow_step wrote:Prism you shouldn't be okay with the boring wagon because of your scum reads and you should be voting eager.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Eager-
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GE and PP. Their wagons were small but there were various players discussing the cases presented against both in great detail and length. There was pressure for both players to explain their actions and things they've said. It was understood that we would be lynching Gamma or Penguin today. Discussion was happening and it was discussion that would lead to finding scum regardless of how either flipped.In post 936, nn30 wrote:
If this is true, what was he distracting from with the CC?In post 928, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I think you're gambling scum who failed to plan out a distraction.In post 921, Shadow_step wrote:
Then what is the reason Sherlock?In post 916, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
It seemed implied and either way, I never said that was my reason for voting for you.In post 906, Shadow_step wrote:Jeeeez this is terrible. When did I say all my reads are based in Eager's interactions with them?
Did you iso me? You think I'm scum and ccing eager under no pressure when I didn't need to ?
My best guesses are PP and GE - since they both had (small) wagons on them when Shadow CC'd.
But... that wasn't enough pressure to do much.
What are your thoughts? What was scum!Shadow's goal with CCing?
I'm not entirely sure what his goal is other than to remove suspicion from one of Gamma and Penguin, maybe potentially even both. Either that or he read Snake as being a potential threat and he's willing to gamble in order to get rid of him.-
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You're the one that's terrible my friend. The only case you have on Eager is that you cannot fathom that both you and him were given the same role. You either refuse or won't take into consideration a town motive for lying. If Eager had not claimed, your read on him would be null. You have no backup plan if he flips town and if he flips scum, it's an excuse to push on anyone who defended him or didn't vote for him.In post 959, Shadow_step wrote:
Jesus Christ, stop playing you're fucking terrible. Gambiting mafia lmaoIn post 928, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I think you're gambling scum who failed to plan out a distraction.In post 921, Shadow_step wrote:
Then what is the reason Sherlock?In post 916, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
It seemed implied and either way, I never said that was my reason for voting for you.In post 906, Shadow_step wrote:Jeeeez this is terrible. When did I say all my reads are based in Eager's interactions with them?
Did you iso me? You think I'm scum and ccing eager under no pressure when I didn't need to ?-
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More of nn30 not actually caring about what I'm saying and just giving a response for the sake of it.In post 1041, nn30 wrote:I have exactly 0 trust in your ability to scumread. Between 614 and 628 you imply (Penguin) or directly state (7 other names) feel scummy. That's 8/13 town members. Your list in 1013 has 3 people (myself included) who I feel are towny.
I didn't respond to your line of questioning towards me originally because without an "@nn30" somewhere in the post I'm likely to skim it and assume it was addressed to someone else.
The fact that I failed to reply to you is not enough of a reason to scum read me.
As far as my read of implosion, I still don't town read him but I found his responses to my lines of questioning satisfying (for the time being). Plus he dropped off the face of the map, nobody else seemed interested in talking about him, so I moved on.
Does anyone want to go read #797?
P-edit @Eager: Not really, no. Feel free to vote implosion or nn30 if you want. It's also not a logical fallacy, you're significantly less likely to be town because of it.-
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