Mini 1824: Grandest Idea Mafia - Game over!

[LAMIST]

VOTE: Shadow_step

Town Surgeon is powerful. Did you discard it for scum?

[LAMIST]

Oh great, we have an outted scum.

Don't put him at L-1 otherwise he might self-hammer.

[LAMIST]

I could see Trickster discarding a role like this. It's very likely he'd die, bring the numbers to even and town wouldn't know who he targeted or his target would die to scum.

[LAMIST]

You wanna explain why Town Surgeon is a powerful role?

Doctor that can stop strongman kills isn't powerful enough?

[LAMIST]

VOTE: Eggman

[LAMIST]

That hatred for doctors. I actually like being doctor.

[LAMIST]

McMenno, as you know Vedith's role, can you tell if it might be town, scum or both?

[LAMIST]

Eggman's 49 is terrible, he's attacking Vedith for being a quadruple voter.

[LAMIST]

*74

[LAMIST]

Okay, sheep me on this.

VOTE: RyanK

[LAMIST]

SirCakez

Do you mind me using your color?

[LAMIST]

He wins if he lynches himself.

[LAMIST]

What color should I use?

[LAMIST]

What color should I use?

Pink, to make us all wink.

No.

[LAMIST]

Grey then.

[LAMIST]

Archer

[LAMIST]

Mod

Aren't there 13 players alive?

[LAMIST]

It's 11:45PM here. I really must go.

So you won't lynch yourself?

[LAMIST]

At least he's trying to bus his partner.

[LAMIST]

Titus is also scum.

[LAMIST]

RyanK + Eggman + Titus

[LAMIST]

If you're mafia, feel free to fakeclaim.

[LAMIST]

Not feeling McMenno being scum.

[LAMIST]

@HYDRAS:

who would your vote be on right now? Why?

Why specifically us?

[LAMIST]

One anti-town faction? What's the cult then? A pro-town faction?

[LAMIST]

Being able to divide your votes in 4 isn't really strong for scum.

[LAMIST]

Cult is considered an anti town faction.

VOTE: Vedith

[LAMIST]

Hiya!

[LAMIST]

1. 11 --> Discards -

Looking over the discards: McMenno = Townie; Shadow = Scummy; Snake = Null; LAMIST = Null; Vedith = Scummy; MM = Null; Rat = Null; Lane = ???; Farside = Very Scummy; Eggman = Null-Scum; Titus = Null-Scum; Ryan = Null. I would vote farside for RVS for discarding such a powerful role when in towns hands.

2. 17 --> Snake sheeps Creature -

Why? I don't like how that looks....

3. 20 --> McMenno states don't target -

PGO? Your discard was townie, so I'll believe you for now.

4. 25 --> Farside says target him/her at night -

Ooh, no way! Censor is the MOST powerful role in the game & you discarded it. I wouldn't be surprised if you are a mafia PGO.

5. 30 - Vedith indirectly claims Quadruplet Voter -

I don't know how SirCakez interpreted the role and your alignment is by no means confirmed by being so open about it, but as the maker of the role, I would interpret it as allowing you to cast all 4 votes simultaneously without having to vote 4 times.

6. 59 -

Note for self after this game: Change the way the quadruplet voters and other split voters work in terms of voting thresholds.

7. 74 - Eggman complains that Vedith's role is OP -

Look at the freaking votecount! It's underpowered and I'm gonna fix that after this game finishes!

8. 123 - Vedith questions LAMIST's knowledge of a role -

You did make it quite obvious, you know. Anyway, the proper name is quadruple

t

voter.

9. 143 - Vedith also claims informed -

This is super suspicious as you can't be two roles at once.

10. 150 - 1 anti-town faction; Farside isn't mafia; 1 protective -

This is weird..... We can confirm the existence of a Werewolf faction, but I think massclaim is in order. Seems like you were sent someone else's results or something....

11. 175 - Ryan claims VT -

I swear.... If you are town fakeclaiming like that..... STOP BEING A VI!

[/spoiler]

~Ircher

[LAMIST]

McMenno,

Cult Really-self-conscious Nightkill Disabler,

committed suicide night 1!

Welcome to Grandest Idea Mafia McMenno!

Cult Really-self-conscious Nightkill Disabler

Abilities

-During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to lynch.
-All nightkills that do not target you automatically fail.
-If you are targeted with any action at night, you will commit suicide at the end of the night.
-You may discuss with your fellow cult members in a chat located here: [REDACTED]

Win Condition

You win when all threats to the Cult faction are eliminated, or nothing can prevent the same.

The game thread is here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=67948

Tricksted Fate,

Werewolf Flavored Hat Goon,

was modkilled night 1!

Welcome to Grandest Idea Mafia Tricksted Fate!

Werewolf Flavored Hat Goon

Abilities

-During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to lynch.
-At night, you may discuss with your fellow Werewolves here: [REDACTED]
-You may perform a factional nightkill each night.
-You are Flavored Hat. This does absolutely nothing.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to the Werewolf faction are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this.

The game thread is here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=67948

I can confirm there are zero VTs in this setup; in addition, no more Werewolves remain in this setup.

[LAMIST]

I can confirm there are zero VTs in this setup; in addition, no more Werewolves remain in this setup.

Here's what I think...
Mod gave wrong information to me so he mod killed an anti town faction.
Means there are more cults and no mafia.

No, my role is confirmed by yesterday's flip. There are no VTs nor are there any remaining Werewokves in this game.

[LAMIST]

*N1 flip

Pedit: My role is Town VT Externinator by combining VT for alignment with Werewolf VT Exterminator for role.

[LAMIST]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p7656971

While alive, the

werewolf faction

must kill a VT each night with their factional ability or be modkilled.

This is why Tricksted Fate died.

[LAMIST]

I highly doubt a protective role would want to reveal himself.

Are you a protective role?

No.

You should claim.

Vanilla Townie.

Okay, sheep me on this.

VOTE: RyanK

Why I treated RyanK as lockscum.

[LAMIST]

My rolecard says that while we were alive, the werewolf faction would need to nightkill VTs otherwise all of them would be modkilled.

[LAMIST]

Then how you received info that there's one anti town faction and two anti town factions already flipped?

[LAMIST]

Yes surely, scum has a pregame Messenger that decided to make you think it's mod info.

[LAMIST]

Moderator Note for Greater Idea Style Games: If the alignment chosen is town alongside this role, then the player must attempt to lynch a VT each day or the player with this role will commit suicide. Same applies to TPR without kills. For other group!scum, that particular alignment must kill VTs or commit suicide.

This was attached to the Mafia version, but I assume it would go for all VT Exterminators.

Fair enough, but keep in mind the mafia pne was posted AFTER this game started.

We originally was gonna do VT, but I asked SirCakez how he would've interoreted Town VT Exterminator which obviously differs from my interpretation. Obviously, I wasn't gonna change the original which was a pretty nice little thing to exploit, but the mod note that I added to the mafia one should apply to future games with the role so it isn't broken.

[LAMIST]

Well... Alright... It does at least all like up with your play.

@Ircher
You should probably put that note on all of the Exterminator posts, unless this actually was what you intended in which case... Damn that's a good role to have here.

Well, tbf, SirCajez kinda allowed the exploit, but like I said in the previous post --> That loophole will be closed off in future games.

[LAMIST]

Does your rolecard say anything about receiving mod info or you just received that message?

[LAMIST]

Did you just OMGUS-FoS your wagon

No I just pointed out how scummy they are for voting me.
I think Lane is town, but if he really is town he will unvote me so I'm not on L1.

Very lame OMGUS attack --> Your story isn't adding up.

[LAMIST]

I was joking. I thought that was obvious.

Really?

This is just bad.... HAMMER IT ALREADY!

Also --> No reason it should take this long when Vedith could consult the ROLE PM/CHOICES to figure put which post it is. Quoting role pms are illegal. Quoting a corresponding post in GIM thread is not, so unless Vedith deletes every single pm he receives, there's no reason for this delay.

LYNCH IT W/ FIRE!!!

[LAMIST]

Also --> Vedith --> Your role doesnt confirm you at all (being a quadruple

t

voter) because 1) Greater Idea Style and 2) Town and anti-town versions.

[LAMIST]

Oh and Lamist can you please explain why I am scummy because of my discard ?
I could have taken that as scum and protected my buddy every night neh?

Fair enough, but to pass up on such a powerful role suggests you got something ,uch better. Scum have less need fir a Doctor than imo, but don't hold us liable in supporting that notion.

VOTE: Ryan

Also, you voted out town doc...
In fact, it was you tricking me that got me to vote there.

Tricked you ?
How does voting Ryan make me scum?

This 100%^.

Just one of many reasons Vedith needs rope.

Vedith is claiming Informed Quadruplet Voter who received a Courier message pre-game. Pretty suspicious and very unlikely. Whoever, if anyone, sent the Courier message to Vedith better speak now or Vedith needs rope.

[LAMIST]

Spoiler: A bunch of incriminating and/or important quotes from Vedith's ISO

Still think it's farside.

Farside is town, I received pre game information on this (not sure where from), just look else where.

Fixed

I'm assuming more then one scum group like the last game I was in.

I received pre game information that we are against 1 team. Most likely scum but isn't guaranteed.

To confirm, I received this information pre game

There is 1 anti town faction
Farside is not Mafia (My assumptions mean town)
There is 1 protective role in the game.

It was a message form the mod without anything else backing it.

Did the mod list what anti-town factions there possibly are?
Did the mod define protective role?

No. I was only given that information.
I assume that someone sent me it pre game

Oh I just realised LAMIST is Archer and Creature!
Hi guys! *waves*

Not me! Not yet! Why is he scum though? Buddying and jester fear?

Because I have a gut feeling!
I think Ryan is lying, but I don't think scum now.

Well you just said it so that makes you scum by your own logic

You realise that Lane can't be scum by default right?
It's in the site rules.

He's basically a more power Innocent Child in every game.

Can I

, like, fakeclaim Town Bus Driver? Then fakestate that the Mafia should

kill

me and I'll fakedrive myself and

Vedith tonight?

He's typing in code, scum don't have day chat!

One anti-town faction? What's the cult then? A pro-town faction?

It's not really a faction though, it's 3rd party so that's probably why.
I mean, we have no other protective, right?

I got a pre game message about Farside. Considering I'm quad voter, scum wouldn't get 4 votes.

Couldnt scum choose a town role with scum alignment or something

I think there's restrictions, like 4 vote, innocent child and masons etc.

because you could easily still be a quad voter scum all your votes are 1/4 votes

Learn the rules, I can't be scum with 4 votes...

Farside just think about it, scum are going to hammer me.
Unvote and we can work out who is scum.

I believe you to be town anyway even if the pre game information is a lie.

My play is obviously too scummy to be scum anyway.

VOTE: eagerSnake
VOTE: eagerSnake
VOTE: eagerSnake
VOTE: eagerSnake

I'm pretty sure scum is here.
He called me scum but didn't vote, think about it.

Hey guys I'm in the game too. Came on Day 1 to post and it was already over.

Anyway, we're confirmed multiball, and Vedith is being ridiculous.
Grand Idea was never meant to be a balanced setup, and even then, your "quad votes" are just a semantic thing. Innocent Child can't be scum because that's part of the role description. You have one vote that you can chop up into tiny useless pieces. That's just barely more than being a quad FOSer. On top of that, you claim to have believed this pregame information because it came from the mod, but specifically stated in D1 that you thought it was from a player.

So yeah, unless snake has something juicy on Eggman....
VOTE: Vedith

I don't think you're scum, so I recommend taking your vote off me until I can build a case.
Otherwise scum will come and hammer me and we lose.

Why is it so hard to believe that I got pre game information?
I mean, I'm proven town with my 4 votes!

LAMIST just scum slipped btw.
Said I claimed informed when I didn't.

I bet he sent me the information and is scum.

I can confirm there are zero VTs in this setup; in addition, no more Werewolves remain in this setup.

Here's what I think...
Mod gave wrong information to me so he mod killed an anti town faction.
Means there are more cults and no mafia.

I don't. It would have had to be planned from the beginning, and I find it unlikely to just pick a role out of a 100 page thread to fake.

Are you saying that Ircher isn't that skilled?!
I think he is...

I thought you were going to let me prove my case?!

Was your case NOT "Quad voter is conftown?"

No, that's just additional fact you need to consider.
Farside can see I'm town.

My play is too scummy to be scum, think about it.

VOTE: vedith

I've seen the too scummy to be scum defense used on other people, and be completely wrong more often than not. I've never seen it used in oneself. That's absurd

People self meta all the time, it's not actually an issue.
I will confirm again - I have 4 votes, I cannot be scum.

Titus, RR, LAMIST and Lane - All scum are in here.

I feel like hammering but my gut tells me not to right now.

Gut says to lynch Eggman

Don't rush the day...
I need to explain why I am town first. It makes no sense as me scum.

Also, I've been thinking about my information gained, and I'm starting to think that who ever sent it had to send 2 true comments and 1 lie.
Farside and 1 protective role is true (no one claimed another protective and I can't see anyone here as it)
The factions is a lie.

I found the role in the forum that does this, so I assume that someone got this and is scum.

Link the role

I can't remember what page.
It was in the middle somewhere I think.
I'll look at a later time and link it, and at least then I'll be proven town.

Too scummy to be scum is not settle meta. And you know I'm town. Don't be ridiculous. You're scum

It is self meta. I am too scummy to be scum, it's a fact.
Why do you want to risk some pleb hammering before we even get scum hunting going?

Have you been at work for the past 13 hours? I don't want this rushed necessarily, I'm just seeing a bunch of reasons to scumread you and none not to.

As far as your scum buddy goes... One might not exist. If the game doesn't end with your death though, I'd probably sheep Snake on Eggman.

Actually, now that I think about it, I haven't seen a post from Ivo all day. We can put pressure there and see what happens until you post this magical proof.

VOTE: Doc 'Botnik( Eggman )

I mean, I slept before work, then I went to work. Can I not sleep now?!
Thank you RR! I knew you were town.

I think Eggman and Shadow are most likely scum right now, both lurking.

VOTE: Ryan

Also, you voted out town doc...
In fact, it was you tricking me that got me to vote there.

Oh and Lamist can you please explain why I am scummy because of my discard ?
I could have taken that as scum and protected

my buddy

every night neh?

Admits that he has a buddy!
And I bet it's Eggman!

Hold up.

Vedith, when you're at L-1, it's dangerous and some spooky Scum could quickhammer you.

But Eggman at L-1 is perfectly fine?

Well he is scum.
I'm town...

What's your point?

Vedith, do you recall the name of this "Give Vedith two truths and a lie to frame him" role?

Not really, but I'll remember it later.

Vedith also promised a case and complains about a quick wagon but only on him.
Okay to hammer vote another player.
Logic
Yeah I'm not bitting.

I'm not sure of the vote count.
Consider me voting vedith.

WTF?
I thought you were town?

Not even just one word I can search the thread for?

Yeah, it had "town" in it, I remember that much.

I'm pretty sure the post number had 7 in it as well if that helps but I'll have to double check as I could be wrong there.

Lol. I giggled. Vedith friends the role, thinks "oh that's the role" and moves on without taking any mental notes besides it might have the number 7 in the post number and it's somewhere between the 1st and last page

No it's not like that at all! :/
I was looking for the role that gives me true information.
I saw this one and thought I'll go back if needed then I lost it.

I also said it has town, that's only like 20% on the thread alone. Town + 7 will be like 5 posts.

Lane is scum btw. He votes me and thinks my information received is a lie, yet he checked Titus last night?
Doesn't match up.

Happy to lynch Lane over Eggman.

We

had no reason to doubt your information until we got two scumflips from different factions though. At the time of N1, checking you was much less mandatory.

WE?!
You and Lane in PT?

Oh yeah, we're masons. Our PT consists 100% of quoting your posts with no commentary. It's a good time, you want masonized?

You really expect me to believe that Lane is a Mason cop?
This is a scum claim! You just claimed Mason with a cop, you fucked up!

I assumed your PT comment was a joke because I meant "we" as in the entire game, so I responded with a joke post.

I also said in my post about searching through the Town roles that I was being serious then, which implies that I was not before.

Fair enough... You could be telling the truth here actually.
I mean, why would you want to mason me if you think I'm scum anyway.
I guess that was a town slip from me though.

UNVOTE: all

Except that shouldn't have happened because you chose that for alignment not role.

No idea. Possibly a mod error?
I just take what's given to me.

There are three possibilities here:

1. Cakez has somehow fucked up incredibly as a mod
2. Vedith is lying
3. Vedith's mystery role does exist, and is 90% likely to be scum

1 I think. Although you make it sound worse than it really is.

As a jester right now I would be self voting.
I am town you idiots!

That vote is probably gonna change after Vedith's miracle defense though.

I already done it, you gave the one I was looking for.

Then why are you playing so ridiculously?

I'm not! I feel like only me and Farside are town here...

Dayvig falls under "other shenanigans"

Keeping him alive, while fun, is not exactly playing my wincon, sadly.

I am actually town btw, just trying to have a little fun. :<

We dont have time to go through & explain every single one, but it's quite obvious that Vedith is scum who is liking distancing from scum partner Eggman though I'm not 100% on the associative theory.

[LAMIST]

TL;DR:

1. Vedith's role is highly improbable.
2. The chance of a pre-game Courier is improbable.
3. Vedith takes every single opportunity he can to try to scumread someone else.
4. Vedith is using logical fallancies including AtE and misuse of information/made-up info to try to "clear" himself.
5. Vedith keeps scumreading Eggman yet it feels sorta staged.
6. Vedith is stalling for time.
7. Vedith is being very inconsistent and is making up and "correcting" things when it's convenient.

[LAMIST]

RR --> Stop giving in to Vedith's logical fallancies and hammer Vedith already.

[LAMIST]

I am against eager's lynch.

[LAMIST]

Let's guess why Vedith could be town:

Someone sent him a fake info to make him scummy: Not possible as Vedith suggested he could be town "knowleadable"
His rolecard might be a lie: Not possible as Vedith thought someone sent him fake pregame info

[LAMIST]

catching up....

screw it, we lynched the jester.

[LAMIST]

Oh so you're a town bulletproof cop. That's helpful for town

But thats a town role... Didnt you have to pick from mafia roles?

[LAMIST]

Here's my proposal.

Lynch Eggman today, because he said it himself, he's an okay lynch.

Then pile every investigative role we have onto Vedith. We know there's a Cop, but that only accounts for one Scumteam, so if you've got an investigation that isn't Mafia/Not Mafia, you're on Vedith too. If there's a second Mafia cop out there, I suggest Farside to check on that "confirmation" Vedith supposedly has.

There is a redirector in the game.

How do you know?

[LAMIST]

Meanwhile where the hell is MM?

He's shy!

Is your "case" on Shadow not lurking?
Why does MM get a pass for being shy?

mm doesnt possess a vote, does he?

[LAMIST]

We need a VC I think.
I'm pretty sure I'm at L1 and considering I've been playing really good town all day (real day) I don't think I should be at L1.

Wow! This feels more like a jester statement tbh but that still... Vedith played Jester well.

[LAMIST]

I believe the person who hasn't been lying his ass off all game.

So Shadow.

Intent to hammer Vedith

You think we're lying?

[LAMIST]

Sorry vedith. Sounds like you need to go. It certainly hasn't been real, but it's been fun. It's actually been real fun

Lynching me loses the game.
I wasn't going to say, but my role picked caused me to take 2 random roles.
1 makes me a quad voter and 2 makes everyone lose the game if I'm lynched.

This is very obviously a jester claim.

Like seriously, Vedith just claimed YET ANOTHER role....

At this point, it's quite obvious its being done on purpose... Scum nor town make that many contradictions in the game... Too scummy to be scum ==> Jester.

Maybe I wouldn't've noticed, but I don't think this would've slipped by....

[LAMIST]

Or Mafia or Cult or 3p.

I can be proven not Mafia
And I'm not cult

You know what I'm saying makes sense why are you acting like it doesn't?!

Because you AREN'T cleared, and you've consistently lied about everything you could possibly lie about.

.... Big clue.....

[LAMIST]

Titus is probably the jester

You got to be freaking kidding us....

[LAMIST]

VOTE: Vedith

Time for a flip

Lolhammer........

[LAMIST]

if game's not over everyone ask sircakez to end night early

We are vetoing that, just fyi.

[LAMIST]

We should lynch Shadow next for that awful lolhammer.

[LAMIST]

VOTE: Eggman

I still think scum

If not mafia, then what?

[LAMIST]

Hi. Will give thoughts in a moment.

[LAMIST]

No one died last night.

Day 3 begins!

This is interesting..... Are there still mafia left? (I would think there are.)

[LAMIST]

And why is that @Snake?

[LAMIST]

Still in hell

Radical Rat

The MM

farside22

Alabaska J

lane0168

Titus

ConManMick

LAMIST (Ircher + Creature)

Eggman

eagerSnake

Shadow_step

massive

Freed at last

RyanK

- Lynched Day 1 -

Town Doctor

McMenno

- Committed suicide night 1 -

Cult Really-self-conscious Nightkill Disabler

Tricksted Fate (randomidget + the blackadder)

- Modkilled night 1 -

Werewolf Flavored Hat Goon

Vedith

- Lynched day 2 -

Jester Quadruplet Voter

........

13 players: 3 flipped anti-town and 1 flipped town.

Starting Setup Sizes: 1 Werewolf, 1 Cult, 1 Jester, ???

[LAMIST]

Grandest Idea Mechanics

Before the game starts, I will send every player 3 different roles drafted from the Grand Idea Mafia thread here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348
Roles were drafted from 1-2558.
Please reply within 24 hours with the role you'd like to be your alignment, and the role you'd like to be your role. The third role will be publicly discarded for everyone to see after everyone has chosen.

The setup will be run as there is a town majority and at least one non-town player.
You may ask me how I would interpret any role in the GIM thread and I will provide an example role PM to match.

Hydra PTs will be granted on request.

Could possibly indicate a no group!scum faction.

Anything to explain the no kill this night?

[LAMIST]

McMenno - Committed suicide night 1 - Cult Really-self-conscious Nightkill Disabler

Why does it say committed suicide

Someone targeted McMenno.

The question is --> Was McMenno cult to begin with or was he targeted by a cult leader?

[LAMIST]

Funny I also feel like I may have been redirected off Eggman so

if theres a redirector in play then results dont mean shit

Eggman prob is the redirector and he knew i would investigate him so he redirected me instead of killing

Obvlyncher who should be kept alive.

[LAMIST]

okay, I want to make one thing clear here:

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, TARGET ME AT NIGHT

that is all

VOTE: McMenno
VOTE: Titus
VOTE: lane0168
VOTE: farside22

Okay, I found scum!

VOTE: Shadow_Step

I would like an answer to this as well

Someone obviously targeted him at night. The question is who?

[LAMIST]

Titus is not a member of the mafia.

Unless Titus is godfather or the mod had results redirected without telling a player, that should be enough to clear Titus from being in any group!scum faction as Alien is unlikely.

That still leaves Cult, Serial Killer, Lyncher, and Survivor though.

Pedit: You're obviously lyncher, so please help town and we'll let you lynch Eggman later

[LAMIST]

We're talking redirectors...I dunno if I buy that but not impossible.

I visited TF n1 btw if it matters post flip.

Farside is not a member of the mafia.

@Lane, by pm? How else would results be given? Why did you think it was a good idea to out crumbs? I am not the best at crumbing but still :/

[LAMIST]

Thats really bastard then.

[LAMIST]

So, to recap claims:

Titus --> Cop
Snake --> Cop (Prob. Lyncher)
Lane --> Cop
LAMIST --> VT Exterminator

Is that it?

[LAMIST]

Titus is not a member of the mafia.

This is what I'm talking about lane.

Also I can confirm I was targeted by a cop last night

Possible self-voyeur (???)

[LAMIST]

How do you know there is a redirector in the game, farside?

I explained this.
I'm not completely role claiming here.
But the gist is I received info.

We also have this....

[LAMIST]

Farside is a Self-Voyeur it seems, and can confirm the existence of a redirector in this game.

[LAMIST]

Reflexive rolecop... Let me check....

Bunch of random roles that allow that, so any alignment. Thats the only match that fits.s

[LAMIST]

Lane: Did you check anyone night 2?

No

Why?

Titus is not a member of the mafia.

This is what I'm talking about lane.

Also I can confirm I was targeted by a cop last night

Possible self-voyeur (???)

I'm not claiming.
Nice role fishing you have going there.

I already know your role anyway as there are very few results that came up for reflexive.

[LAMIST]

Reflexive rolecop... Let me check....

Bunch of random roles that allow that, so any alignment. Thats the only match that fits.s

Why are you trying to figure out my role instead of scum hunting?

Because we dont think there are any scum left to hunt.

[LAMIST]

Eager is lyncher and therefore not a threat to the town.

There is an unclaimed redirector and unclaimed bloodhound.

We should lynch within the pool of people who haven't softed / claimed.

VOTE: Shadow

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I don't think eagerSnake is a lyncher, but I don't want to lynch Eggman currently.

Btw, Ircher is the one posting non-grey texts.

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VOTE: Vedith

Time for a flip

This is quite a bogus reason to hammer someone, and while Vedith was acting anti-town, did Jester seriously never cross your mind?

Pedit: .......

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I thought about having multiple cops investigate the same person to make redirector less likely.

[LAMIST]

Theres a confirmed redirector in the setup.

Apparently, the mod sends results without including the targets name.

Shadow is scum for lolhammering an obv!jester with 8 days to spare and very few other comments.

[LAMIST]

McMenno - Committed suicide night 1 - Cult Really-self-conscious Nightkill Disabler

Why does it say committed suicide

Someone targeted McMenno.

The question is --> Was McMenno cult to begin with or was he targeted by a cult leader?

I think he was Cult to begin with, because it is my understanding that recruited Cultists are Vanillized.

At Night, it can recruit players into the Cult; these players henceforth

lose their previous role identities

and become Cultists.

Also there is one other thing about the other cops results that is differ from mine

but im not saying what rn

You should. Either someone is insane or faking results, and in either case, that needs to be sorted out immediately.

Theres still at least 1 cultist though unless McMenno got RB'd.

Pedit: Thats how I usually send results (especially trackng resukts)

[LAMIST]

Shadow, Eggman, Radical Rat are our lynch choices for today as 1 of them are a redirector.

Pedit: Cult.

[LAMIST]

Eggman is lyncher on me and his whole freaking plan all relies on you guys thinking I'm lyncher on him and getting me lynched

Brilliant tbh

Double Lyncher?????

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Haven't caught up yet, I'm on 37. But I can confirm that Eager is a cop and copped me. Please don't lynch him.

Ok, so Titus and Eager are role-confirmed.

(Why an SK would fakeclaim Cop is beyond me)

Pedit: This is quite the bussing gambit if they are claiming that the other is lyncher on them and confirm one another roles....

Pedit: Farside is a Reflexive Rolecop, no question about it.

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We are lynching Shadow as Radical is town by play. Basic setup PoE. Brilliant!

[LAMIST]

Eggman, stop being an idiot and realize that by PoE, Shadow is a scum Redirector as RR is town by play and everyone else is practically cleared by claims....

Well, Lane isn't exactly confirmed, but I'm trusting that slot wouldn't've have the gumption to fakeclaim Cop.

Pedit: Farside, you're wrong.

[LAMIST]

Titus is cleared as Town/Cult/3rd Party.

We are cleared by the modkill N1.

Eager is cleared by Eggman and claims.

Radical is towny by play and therefore the same clear as Titus.

Lane is unlikely to be mafia fakeclaiming Cop.

Farside is clear by claims.

Pedit: No, Mafia Redirector

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Eggman is cleared by clearing Eager and by claims.

Lane might be Bloodhound tbh.

Pedit: Part of our role. Werewolf faction is modkilled if they dont nk a vt.

[LAMIST]

Lane, you did say you had an inno on Titus, correct?

[LAMIST]

@farside, I didn't check anyone because I was hoping to prevent a nightkill, if there are any left

Massive block?

Cowardly cop

That explains a lot.

Looking at egg and LAMIST as scum.
What do you think?

Considering the fact I'm finding mafia by analyzing claims, your logic makes no sense. My role is once again confirmed by the N1 modkill.

Pedit: It's a very risky and crazy gambit. Stop it.

[LAMIST]

Farside was targeted by a redirector N1. A bloodhound was also redirected to Farside. Why hasn't the bloodhound claimed? Probably Lane though.

Pedit: Shadow is still the worst in our opinion based on play alone.

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Titus is not a member of the mafia.

This is what I'm talking about lane.

Also I can confirm I was targeted by a cop last night

[LAMIST]

Well Eggman is not mafia

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Farside is not a member of the mafia.

@Lane, by pm? How else would results be given? Why did you think it was a good idea to out crumbs? I am not the best at crumbing but still :/

Farside is confirmed by Titus and vice-versa.

[LAMIST]

Shadow is the correct lynch right now.

Something doesn't add up though, as no one has claimed bloodhound which would be a very useful poe tool for town.

[LAMIST]

That reminds me...

The MM obviously cannot post in thread, yet isnt a treestump as he didnt flip. What could he be?

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Treestump

Not treestump.

Lane --> You're an idiot. I'm confirmed as not a mafia redirector and while what you say is true, the probabilities of us being scum is lower than the probability that Shadow is a mafia redirector.

Also, possibly MM's role:

Neutral Seraph Balancer

You cannot post in the game thread, vote or be voted for (you don't show in the votecount), or be killed, and you count as dead for the purpose of determining whether other players' win conditions are satisfied. (You are, however, a legal target for night actions, and the moderator will advertise this fact if asked.) You have a Neighbourizer ability that can be used at any time you don't currently have a Neighbour, day or night, and the Neighbour private topic is likewise open day and night; activity requirements can (and must) be fulfilled using the private topic because you can't post in thread. Once each day and once each night, you may give a player of your choice a role from the Mafiascum wiki, with the exceptions that you can only ever target each player once total (so if you Neighbourize someone, you can't give them another role as well), no player's alignment/win condition can change as a result of you giving out a role or the use of a role that you give out (including indirectly), and the role must have existed on the wiki prior to the start of the game. You win if the game is still ongoing when only 3 players (other than yourself) are left alive.

Inspired by Vi's Mafia on Holy Orders, but modified heavily to make sense in the Grand Idea setting. It's basically impossible to balance the various roles you could give with a point-buy without knowing the other details of the setup, so instead we'll give the role a self-balancing win condition; giving out overpowered roles is not a good way to bring a 3p lylo about.

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Only one that I could find by searching "Post" and "Thread".

[LAMIST]

The original said modkilled.

For future games, the term will be "suicided"

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Intent to Vote

I think Snake is a great choice too for a variety of reasons unrelated to Redirector PoE.

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Eggman.

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I didn't realize he was l-1. My bad. On so no mafia I'm assuming. I copped lamist

Eagersnake is not mafia. Given the lack of kills, I wonder if anyone is mafia though.

Who said we likely had a bloodhound? Why?

I will be back in about 24 hours. One last work thing.

lane's not maf

Wait, nvm, Snake got targeted by Eager.

[LAMIST]

So the redirector targeted Farside nights 1 and 3?

[LAMIST]

VOTE: Eggman

Gotcha.

[LAMIST]

Ircher head V/LA til Monday (Tuesday).

[LAMIST]

Who HASNT been cleared as not mafia by a cop inno? (Assuming none of them are false....)

[LAMIST]

So so far we have

Town:

Lane
Titus
Farside

It can be concluded that Shadow cleared Farside N1 as town based on Farside's comments & this post.

[LAMIST]

Yeah, I totally abused SurCakez's misinterpretation of the VT Exterminator role. But do note that the clarified variant was posted AFTER I got a response.

[LAMIST]

~Ircher --> Forgot I'm still in the hydra acct.