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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:28 am

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So question, what do you do against a good GP when your a melee champion?

And i'm talking about the kind of GP that understands that a single barrel behind him is a zoning tool.
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:47 am

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Play a champion that can dash to him and duel him

He places his barrel, shoots the one behind him, the moment it explodes(while it's triggering the second barrel where you stand) dash out of blast range and towards him, slam into him(dodging his q and e completely then attack him until he's low), if he sticks around in lane at <=40% hp, just kill him

Champions that can do this shit - Riven, Irelia, Jax, Pantheon, Ekko, Fiora, Wukong(tho I think WK and GP go even in lane because GP has other advantages over him), Renekton, Maokai

That's how I've dealt with most GPs top in my elo, seems to work pretty well. I had a tough time against GP when I was playing volibear though.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:44 am

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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:21 am

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higher tier players have better internet what a surprise
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:00 am

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Part of the effect is probably correlational -- seriousness is generally correlated with using a wired connection in addition to a wired connection directly causing a stability advantage.
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:06 am

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Absolutely.
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:09 am

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In post 1092, Psyche wrote:so ryze has a pretty low winrate
does that mean he's bad? or just hard?
Really, really bad. If I have a ryze on my team, we lose. If they have a ryze, we win.

Ryze can do well, and still do nothing to help the team win the game
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:59 pm

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In post 1106, hiplop wrote:
In post 1092, Psyche wrote:so ryze has a pretty low winrate
does that mean he's bad? or just hard?
Really, really bad. If I have a ryze on my team, we lose. If they have a ryze, we win.

Ryze can do well, and still do nothing to help the team win the game
his ult tho
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:01 pm

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ah the classic "you can walk there faster" ult that makes no sense with his kit
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:26 pm

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Ryze seemed so OP to me. I was sure he'd need 100 nerfs.

The ult could be quicker, though. The other team has way too long to respond.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:30 pm

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In post 1108, hiplop wrote:ah the classic "you can walk there faster" ult that makes no sense with his kit
the classic entire team out of a bad situation ult
the classic chase down that guy who thought he could get away ult
the classic entire team at drag/baron to steal ult
the classic double the fucking minions at one tower ult
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:45 pm

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If you Ryzeult to a tower with no minions and bring minions, who gets tower aggro?
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:46 pm

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In post 1110, Nosferatu wrote:the classic double the fucking minions at one tower ult
Or super minions at an inhib tower :wink:
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:14 pm

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In post 1110, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 1108, hiplop wrote:ah the classic "you can walk there faster" ult that makes no sense with his kit
the classic entire team out of a bad situation ult
the classic chase down that guy who thought he could get away ult
the classic entire team at drag/baron to steal ult
the classic double the fucking minions at one tower ult
doesnt make sense with his kit

and the last thing sounds cool but is useless in soloq
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:17 pm

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irelia destroys riven so hard it's not even funny, I felt like a cyberbully
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:14 am

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our moredekaiser adc went 27/0/5 in 23 minutes and didn't get an S+
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:41 am

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Was the other team drunk
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:42 am

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mord is sort of a confusing champion
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:42 am

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How so?
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:56 am

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Because he does weird/unique stuff that is kinda unclear to anyone that doesn't frequently play him. And he doesn't necessarily have a role.
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:08 am

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In post 1115, Psyche wrote:our moredekaiser adc went 27/0/5 in 23 minutes and didn't get an S+
He probably farmed badly.
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:18 am

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In post 1113, hiplop wrote:doesnt make sense with his kit
I was ready to throw caution to the winds and call you out on this magnificent lie but I decide to play a game with him first (instead of just around him).

Yeah I totally agree. Ryzes place in teams seems to be magic damage, point click snare, and inherent tankiness. Ryze builds tanky as a dps mage which is super nice. But yeah his tp doesn't fit anywhere.
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:32 am

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Ryze ult is something riot threw in because they ran out of ideas, he was too powerful to add more damage too, and they didn't have a clear idea of what would fit his identity.

So they threw him a team-based TK ultimate.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:45 am

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Ryze's animations are funnier now
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:28 am

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