OPEN 649 — PICK YOUR POWER X/Y. EXPERIMENT OVER.

[Wake1]

I'll review the game momentarily.

[Wake1]

So I take it we don't know the Setup?

[Wake1]

Ah, so semi-Open.

[Wake1]

Why thank you good Sir but I'm unsure how useful that'll be without flips.

[Wake1]

...well, I guess crumbing Bomb is not a viable option.

[Wake1]

Unvote

[Wake1]

Frankly I don't understand the Setup.

[Wake1]

I did, but still don't really understand it.

[Wake1]

I'll sort you and Dunn out eventually.

[Wake1]

For those wondering about the lack of activity, in general I dislike Day 1 because there's nothing concrete to work with; I observe interactions Day 1.

[Wake1]

I'm just gonna pour my emotions into a page right now feel free to read or don't

I honestly feel frustrated with myself because I was told in my first game my biggest mistake was I didn't have presence. I feel like this is happening again because I feel really good in a lot of my reads but I don't wanna be rude and like pushy saying LYNCH THIS NOW I'm at a point where I'm just asking light questions and asking people "hey can you vote this" I don't really know what I should be doing do I need to change my whole play to be noticed because all I feel like is like my voice is just not heard am I quiet am I not making good points? When people look at me all I see is "ha ha Maria's town lets move on" I don't want that I wanna be known as helping lead this and finding scum I won't be proud of my gameplay otherwise so what the fuck do I do.

I get that some of you could be scared also because it's day 1 and reads can always be shakey but I think we should all have faith in our abilities

How experienced are you exactly?

[Wake1]

I'm just gonna pour my emotions into a page right now feel free to read or don't

I honestly feel frustrated with myself because I was told in my first game my biggest mistake was I didn't have presence. I feel like this is happening again because I feel really good in a lot of my reads but I don't wanna be rude and like pushy saying LYNCH THIS NOW I'm at a point where I'm just asking light questions and asking people "hey can you vote this" I don't really know what I should be doing do I need to change my whole play to be noticed because all I feel like is like my voice is just not heard am I quiet am I not making good points? When people look at me all I see is "ha ha Maria's town lets move on" I don't want that I wanna be known as helping lead this and finding scum I won't be proud of my gameplay otherwise so what the fuck do I do.

I get that some of you could be scared also because it's day 1 and reads can always be shakey but I think we should all have faith in our abilities

How experienced are you exactly?

In forum mafia? I know very little call me a rookie I play java mafia where the games are up to 20 min live games live reactions etc

Interesting. If you have any gameplay questions, just ask.

[Wake1]

I've seen no reason to want to lynch umlaut/wake

But THIS FUCKER is Scum.

[Wake1]

I've seen no reason to want to lynch umlaut/wake

umlaut played okay but wakes posting is atrocious

This kind of stupidity would normally indicate Town, right? ^

[Wake1]

I've seen no reason to want to lynch umlaut/wake

But THIS FUCKER is Scum.

???

I've

never

experienced Town-Dunnstral NOT want to lock horns with me in an eternal struggle.

[Wake1]

I think Wake is Town. I feel like this is how Wake is as Town.

so you mean obnoxious and terrible?

I'm not sure what to make of such a thin-skinned and reactionary comment.

[Wake1]

I think Wake is Town. I feel like this is how Wake is as Town.

so you mean obnoxious and terrible?

Yes. And very easy to lynch.

If you're Scum, what are you waiting for? I invite you to make a move.

[Wake1]

Dunnstral, I've got experience with you, so I'm going to lean on you a bit. What're your thoughts on the game so far?

[Wake1]

DIDNT YOU JUST CALL HIM SCUM

And, for real, I was incredibly, incredibly serious when I said that. I mean, look at the

vote

.

[Wake1]

DIDNT YOU JUST CALL HIM SCUM

For Pete's sake, think.

Do we have to play that game where Wake points out each and every dumb quip you make?

Something tells me the meaning nuance and context escapes your understanding.

Fortunately for you 'stupid' isn't exactly indicative of alignment. If you're Scum you're bound to trip up eventually.

[Wake1]

this guy and his sporadic bolding dumbass shit

Something tells me I must've pissed off one of your alts in the past, 'cause I've never played with you in the past.

[Wake1]

this guy replies to the same quote twice because he couldn't get all of his pompousness out in the first post.

(I wonder if this guy is normally this angry and dumb as Town...? Maybe I

should

check his meta...)

[Wake1]

this is an alt

And if you're smart you'll not embarrass yourself in front of me again.

[Wake1]

I think these people are towny:
Zach
Creature
Kts
Wake

Other people that are townish but I bet there's sum in here:

Firebringer
Vedith
MariaR
Gigabytetroubodor
Charloux (maybe)

Scummy people:

Skelda
Shadow_Step
pisskop
Chrimi

The only people I have current experience with are you and Zach, and Vedith to a lesser extent.

I don't really remember anyone else.

[Wake1]

this guy replies to the same quote twice because he couldn't get all of his pompousness out in the first post.

(I wonder if this guy is normally this angry and dumb as Town...? Maybe I

should

check his meta...)

Pot calling the kettle black?

Zach gonna need you to weigh in on this one

Aw, Dunnstral's being cute.

[Wake1]

So from what I've heard MAP crumbed PR while at L1?

[Wake1]

this is an alt

And if you're smart you'll not embarrass yourself in front of me again.

lol do you realize who youre talking to?

I AM THE CEREAL OF WHICH YOU EAT.
THE MILK OF WHICH YOU DRINK.

I AM THE FUTUER OF YOUR KIDS, THE DEMISE OF YOUR ENEMIES. I'M THE GRIN OF A CUTE GIRL AS SHE FLASES IT AT YOU. I'M THE BUTTERFLIES THAT FLOAT IN YOUR STOMACH DURING A STAGE PERFORMANCE. I'M THE SOUND WAVES THAT BOUNCE OFF THE WALLS WHEN YOU SPEAK.

I CONTROL EVERYTHING, CHILD, AND IF YOU THINK I'M EMBARRASSING MYSELF WHEN EVERYTHING I WRITE IS A CALCULATED PLAN, YOU'RE SURELY WRONG. WITH THIS, I'VE ALREADY DEDUCED YOU'RE AN ANGRY PERSON WHO EITHER LIVES WITH SOMEONE ELSE OR IS HAVING A TROUBLING TIME SUPPORTING THEMSELVES. THE OTHER OPTION IS THAT YOU'RE A PERSON WHO'S LONELY AND HAS NO ONE TO SHARE HAPPINESS WITH, AND SO YOU SHARE HAPPINESS WITH YOUR ANGER.

YOU'RE ANGRY AT LIFE RIGHT NOW, AND SO YOU'RE ANGRY IN THIS GAME. YOU'RE OBNOXIOUS FOR ATTENTION BECAUSE YOU'RE TYPICALLY IGNORED. I UNDERSTAND THIS FEELING, AND I

ADVISE YOU STOP IT BEFORE I GO INTO MY FINAL FORM.

THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING.

Oh dear lord Timmy's getting triggered.

[Wake1]

So from what I've heard MAP crumbed PR while at L1?

Who?

Are you in the right game

Now I am.

[Wake1]

I need an adult

I'm here.

[Wake1]

Well, rope is also an option.

[Wake1]

...

[Wake1]

Why can't we just lynch Vedith?

Is there a compelling reason?

[Wake1]

Sounds legit,

[Wake1]

I think I'll watch from a distance.

[Wake1]

I think I'll watch from a distance.

Do you think I'm scum? We could team up on these losers.

Well, you did say I was very easy to lynch which, judging by the actual evidence on this forum... is actually the opposite case.

What I can point out quite easily is that you're wrong, but neither that nor your attitude tells me at the current moment what your alignment is.

There's good reason why Town players haven't lynched me in well over a year: they know exactly when I'm obvTowning.

I have no sense of self-preservation. I don't care about surviving. I care about finding/killing Scum, being right, and having Town win.

All the other things like Readlists and walls I gave up on because that effort usually went unappreciated. Besides, I get reads better through direct confrontation.

At the moment I don't know if you're Scum, but time will tell. As for the second sentence I'm not sure in what world you thought that sentiment would do anything to help your position.

[Wake1]

All the other things like Readlists and walls I gave up on because that effort usually went unappreciated. Besides, I get reads better through direct confrontation.

I think people appreciate readlists more when you actually finish them, that's generally a prerequisite for appreciation imo

Don't assume the ones you've seen are remotely 10% of them. You're not the only one who uses multiple alts across multiple games.

[Wake1]

All the other things like Readlists and walls I gave up on because that effort usually went unappreciated. Besides, I get reads better through direct confrontation.

I think people appreciate readlists more when you actually finish them, that's generally a prerequisite for appreciation imo

Don't assume the ones you've seen are remotely 10% of them. You're not the only one who uses multiple alts across multiple games.

I'm not an alt of anyone.

Well, off-topic, you should consider using them.

[Wake1]

All the other things like Readlists and walls I gave up on because that effort usually went unappreciated. Besides, I get reads better through direct confrontation.

I think people appreciate readlists more when you actually finish them, that's generally a prerequisite for appreciation imo

Don't assume the ones you've seen are remotely 10% of them. You're not the only one who uses multiple alts across multiple games.

I'm not an alt of anyone.

I'll assume you meant you don't use alts, which is my point.

[Wake1]

*Good point.

[Wake1]

Skelda, besides Vedith which other two are you looking at?

[Wake1]

Noting that Chrimi was online Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:13 am, though she hasn't posted in 1 day 18 hours.

[Wake1]

I had spoken of using alts.

You said you aren't an alt.

Saying you're aren't an alt didn't pin down that you don't have other alts you use.

It's neither here nor there, but I wanted this to be clarified.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Chrimi

[Wake1]

Doesn't mean they're town...?

I'm forward as mafia

First, define 'forward.'

[Wake1]

In regards to Mafia.

[Wake1]

So, Dunnstral, what's your Town meta like?

[Wake1]

Zach, you've got current experience with Dunnstral. The same experience which you know what I'm talking about.

Notice anything off about this guy?

[Wake1]

I'm asking Zach.

[Wake1]

What I'm noticing about YOU, however, is that you tend to latch onto the thought that Town!(insert player name) plays EXACTLY LIKE X, and any deviation from this means they're scum. I don't know if you noticed, but that's one of the schools of thought that can bite you in the ass and drag you down if you're wrong and continue to use it as a reference point.

Eh, perhaps.

But if that's true meta has virtually zero utility.

[Wake1]

What I'm noticing about YOU, however, is that you tend to latch onto the thought that Town!(insert player name) plays EXACTLY LIKE X, and any deviation from this means they're scum. I don't know if you noticed, but that's one of the schools of thought that can bite you in the ass and drag you down if you're wrong and continue to use it as a reference point.

Eh, perhaps.

But if that's true meta has virtually zero utility.

mY point is people can stray from THE EXACT PRECISENESS AND STILL BE TOWN you just gotta DEPLOY THAT KEEN INTUITION

I prefer scorched earth policy.

You never really know until it's dead.

[Wake1]

True, but it's funny seeing your fee-fees in a bundle.

[Wake1]

I have reservations on Dunnstral, and KTS is being Null atm.

[Wake1]

That would actually be a dumb move. Keep in mind I've been analyzing each and every reaction I get.

[Wake1]

Maria, Skelda what are your views on Chrimi ?

Would you be open to lynching Chrimi today?

[Wake1]

Noting that Chrimi was online Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:13 am, though she hasn't posted in 1 day 18 hours.

Again with me having no idea what's going on here because you all post nonsense god damn constantly..

You could do something rather than cover your butt and squeal every time someone taps you with a stick.

[Wake1]

True, but it's funny seeing your fee-fees in a bundle.

Yo duke, I'm calm as a motherfucking preying mantis eyelash

Then you should be calm enough to start utilizing that space between your ears.

[Wake1]

NOW, who's actively lurking?

[Wake1]

FTR I'm open to hanging Chrimi.

[Wake1]

Eh, Zach's boring me. Maybe he's Town this game...?

I hope Scum realize they're screwed beyond hope if they leave even the smallest loose thread out in the open.

[Wake1]

All the other things like Readlists and walls I gave up on because that effort usually went unappreciated. Besides, I get reads better through direct confrontation.

I think people appreciate readlists more when you actually finish them, that's generally a prerequisite for appreciation imo

Even when they were finished, so in essence it was never worth the time. I should just type up a disclaimer and put in the sig.

Zach you ever write up a readlist that took over an hour and you don't even get feedback on it? I have. It sucks. So nope.

I may go with an extremely streamlined one in the future, but then I'd be forced to read all this shit and I'm just not a masochist.

[Wake1]

Eh, Zach's boring me. Maybe he's Town this game...?

I hope Scum realize they're screwed beyond hope if they leave even the smallest loose thread out in the open.

I'M continuing a train of thought that I started.

FWIW you look pretty Wake-y to me.

It's good to be king.

[Wake1]

Maria, Skelda what are your views on Chrimi ?

Nullish Town. She hasn't done much, but I think she was a little Townish.

It's the whole not-posting-but-being-online thing that somewhat irked my gut.

I want to ignore shadow and yet appeal to him at the same time because I feel like he's making reads based off my answers because he sr's me (you could make the same case for Skelda but I think both are mafia so the logic is bs) I want him to be town because he makes this game interesting.

In what world would you ever want to appeal to someone in Mafia unless you're Scum hoping to gain a better sense of self-preservation?

This game is a disapointment to your mother and I.
Game if you want to grow up t be a success you gotta show some form of progression.
Now I want you to give me one flip by the time I come back or else you are grounded for the week.

OR, you can get your ass back in here and play.

[Wake1]

Skelda, I asked you a question.

Skelda, besides Vedith which other two are you looking at?

[Wake1]

Good to know wake has reservations about me but will push my scumread for me

Who's your Scumread?

[Wake1]

It's Day 1. Me pushing your Scumread while having reservations about you means... what?

You think I should think you're Town because we're pushing the same person?

Scum vote/push their teammates all the time so don't even try it.

[Wake1]

Zach, you're extremely annoying.

When people tell me I'm annoying—in a game where you need to get reactions from people—the first thing I'm gonna do is settle down.

[Wake1]

Please claim.

No need to rolefish until there's intent, hun.

I'm intending to hammer you into oblivion if you don't claim.

[Wake1]

Calm down.

Should we hammer the Neighborizer claim, or wait?

[Wake1]

So wev'e got a hinge here. If Chrimi flips Scum down the road KTS and Dunnstral were on distinct opposite ends.

[Wake1]

They're probably town

Based on what?

[Wake1]

FFS Dunnstral.

[Wake1]

If anyone has objections you can kindly refer to DEEZ NUTS.

I'm busy getting SOMETHING BIG going on.

Fuck Day 1 anyways. I hate getting wrapped up in nothing but speculation. I need some meat on this bone, and I'm only gonna get it with flips.

I'll poke my head in once I get a break.

[Wake1]

Why thanks.

I'l break your neck Day 2 if I so much as suspect you.

♥

[Wake1]

V/LA until 8/17/16.

[Wake1]

We're running out of time.

VOTE: Skelda

[Wake1]

Considering the dueling back-and-forth on Vedith and Skelda, it makes me feel like maybe there's Scum between them.

For the sake of time I'd be willing to compromise on either. Vedith wanting players to vote him doesn't signal Towniness.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Skelda

If you're Town, forgive me.

[Wake1]

I was?

Have you claimed?

[Wake1]

Pretty sure I was on Chrimi.

[Wake1]

That's why I shouldn't be in 5 games at once.

[Wake1]

That would be a mistake.

[Wake1]

FoS

on the players voting with zero reason. Scum is in there.

[Wake1]

My concern with putting Dunn on there is that I don't know if he'll be online.

Wake, my last straw with you was that accidental fakehammer. Consider that my reasoning.

And what votes this game had reasoning behind them? We've had flash wagons popping up again and again, full of naked votes. Is that what happens when scum have daytalk?

This is Scum. Should I be mislynched,

lynch this

.

[Wake1]

This is terrible play. Every player is different. As Town I get stronger and stronger as the Days go by, because I have actual tools to work with. I can't work with specualtion, and meta is not reliable. Mislynching me is a mistake.

[Wake1]

Chrimi's playing dumb.

FoS.

[Wake1]

The thing I really wonder is why there's so much resistance to both Vedith and Skelda that Scum's actually trying to mislynch me. It's both hilarious and obvious. I say bring it.

[Wake1]

Chrimi's playing dumb.

FoS.

Oh shut up and go read my meta. Or, wait until after deadline so we don't waste valuable time I guess.

If you're attempting to mislynch me with your vote why are you asking me to to read your meta after deadline since it'd be pointless if you mislynch me? You're not being consistent.

[Wake1]

I'm willing to hammer either Vedith or Skelda. Get to that point and I'll make it happen.

Reservation over it will only seal your fate late-game if you fuck this up.

[Wake1]

It wasn't a fakehammer. I didn't know I had already voted Skelda. You have no case.

[Wake1]

Zach, talk some sense into these fucking idiots.

[Wake1]

In short, I'm Town as hell. The only reason I haven't been able to play us usual is because I'm in 5 games and modding a 42-player game. If that's your reason for mislynching me then frankly you're either badTown or opportunistic Scum. Either way you're gonna pay.

[Wake1]

If you and Zach think refraining from voting me will make me think you're Town, you are mistaken.

[Wake1]

I'm open to hammering KTS.

[Wake1]

VOTE: KTS

[Wake1]

VOTE: Skelda

[Wake1]

16 minutes.

Hurry.

[Wake1]

I'd like to replace out and give someone more active a shot.