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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:37 am

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I played about as well as I think I possibly could in this game, but I still got a B.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends. ... b=overview

Kind of frustrated because I'm chasing the elusive S, but pretty happy otherwise. I'm in promos up to Bronze I now!
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:28 pm

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i got an S in my first zac game
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:47 pm

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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:52 pm

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So taliyah is amazing this patch, but i worry there is too little counterplay to her W>E combo.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:46 pm

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Dodge the W, it's telegraphed and has a small radius

If you see her throw out the E you should be watching for the sign already
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:54 pm

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In post 704, Accountant wrote:Dodge the W, it's telegraphed and has a small radius

If you see her throw out the E you should be watching for the sign already
If she throws out the E first, she is doing it wrong, and as "telegraphed" as it is now that it's vector casting, it's really quick to cast, and gives very little time to actually move out of the way if it's right on the person.
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:11 pm

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Oh they patched her? Nice
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:02 am

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Yeah, and i have been playing it already, because OCE gets patches first.

Also don't think the W takes 1 second like the wiki thinks it does.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:03 am

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Why did Sona have to be buffed :(
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:05 am

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Taliyah's W is .84 seconds or something like that, which is still mre telegraphed than most telegraphed abilities
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:18 pm

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I don't know why I bother with ranked. It's not like climbing past gold as support (jungle primary but lets be honest) is even possible solo.
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:23 pm

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In post 710, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't know why I bother with ranked. It's not like climbing past gold as support (jungle primary but lets be honest) is even possible solo.
[Currently at 58 lp plat 1 as a soloq support main]
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:24 pm

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In post 711, RayFrost wrote:
In post 710, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't know why I bother with ranked. It's not like climbing past gold as support (jungle primary but lets be honest) is even possible solo.
[Currently at 58 lp plat 1 as a soloq support main]
Hi, trying saying the same thing in fucking gold.
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:26 pm

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I mean, I had to climb out of gold as a soloq support main.

I was thinking of leveling an account to 30 to run support only from bronze to plat but the process of leveling an account to 30 is more painful than trying to teach really stubborn people that they need to change their worldview a bit.

If you want some climbing tips, here are a few: go for champions that are very very clear in what they do. Pick more according to your lane than to your team if you have to choose. Never build sunfire cape on a support.
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:29 pm

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Honestly, it's just soooo painful and it feels like I may as well not matter in half (or more) of the games I even play because the team is already winning hard or losing hard regardless of whether I exist. Like I can't do anything about a darius that feeds 7 kills to irelia in 14 minutes and a midlane Ezreal who can't dodge ashe (also mid) ults to save his life.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:34 pm

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burdens make the team lose

carries make the team win

supports make the burdens into carries

theoretically
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:35 pm

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I can only really stop 1(sometimes 2 if I can get a roam) person from being a burden, not 3 or 4 in the first 20 minutes.
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:42 pm

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Do you really think that 3 or 4 people every game are a burden on your team?

I mean matchmaking is more or less random, it doesn't make sense that the trolls are only on your team and not the enemy team

if you're in such a position that 3 or 4 players on your team are a burden consistently, then 3 or 4 players on the enemy team will also be a burden consistently
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:43 pm

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I consistently have my non-MS friends tell me I have literally the single worst luck they've ever seen when it comes to random teammates, so maybe not every game, but a hell of a lot of them.
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:47 pm

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In post 718, animorpherv1 wrote:I consistently have my non-MS friends tell me I have literally the single worst luck they've ever seen when it comes to random teammates, so maybe not every game, but a hell of a lot of them.
i don't think you understand probability

at the point where you're playing enough games to actually climb ranks, the law of large numbers kicks in and negates your shitty luck
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:51 pm

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I don't think you understand the sheer amount of crappy luck I get.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:56 pm

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In post 709, animorpherv1 wrote:Taliyah's W is .84 seconds or something like that, which is still mre telegraphed than most telegraphed abilities
Yes but it's that telegraphed for something that can half hit most people, and doing that while someone is stuck in an animation gives even less time to react.

Not to mention, if you haven't hit someone with it, they aren't expecting it to be so quick (if they haven't read the patch notes.)

Also it feels like it's less than .84 seconds (I haven't gone to the point of timing it, but it feels around the .5 second mark.)
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:57 pm

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In post 720, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't think you understand the sheer amount of crappy luck I get.
look my lad luck isn't a thing only probability exists stop blaming your losses on luck you just look salty at best and making excuses at worst
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:01 pm

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In post 722, Accountant wrote:
In post 720, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't think you understand the sheer amount of crappy luck I get.
look my lad luck isn't a thing only probability exists stop blaming your losses on luck you just look salty at best and making excuses at worst
The problem is your reasoning says that ani has to play extremely often to counter it, which ani may not be willing to do.

Also since the introduction of dynamic, i would say that a Support that isn't in a premade would have an extremely hard time.
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:08 pm

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In post 723, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 722, Accountant wrote:
In post 720, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't think you understand the sheer amount of crappy luck I get.
look my lad luck isn't a thing only probability exists stop blaming your losses on luck you just look salty at best and making excuses at worst
The problem is your reasoning says that ani has to play extremely often to counter it, which ani may not be willing to do.

Also since the introduction of dynamic, i would say that a Support that isn't in a premade would have an extremely hard time.
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