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Okay, maybe not the champ without escapes part, but isn't this basically how Rumble traps people?In post 66, FakeGod wrote:he is on a champion without escapes and his support has no way to rescue him and he positioned himself awkwardly2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Karma, Sej, and Fiora, or?In post 274, Iecerint wrote:I got Traditional Karma in my shop!
Now I just need Traditional Sejuani, and I've got all three. :X2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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(also, I personally kinda like Eternum Rek'sai, though only from a visual perspective; I don't have Rek'sai so Idk if it's worse when you play as that skin.)
(Also, the Debonair skins are boss and I don't see how any champ with them have terrible skins.)
The only one I really don't like is the one that's not concussive or Ethereal (#1 and #2, resp), and I refuse to believe Concussive is terrible.In post 279, PJ. wrote:Add all three of those songs to the list of bad choices their music director has made, right next to Tahm Kench login theme.
I do agree Pulsefire is pretty dated. I think it was worth 1350 when it was released, but it's not worth it now.In post 281, Iecerint wrote:I like DJ Sona a lot.
Pulsefire Ezreal I think most people say looks dated?
I still love the skin, don't get me wrong, but it could use a VU.
This, btw.In post 286, Papa Zito wrote:corporate mundo and gentleman cho are p gr82011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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That's not an armor item.In post 645, inte wrote:
killing ppl faster than they kill uIn post 644, Voidedmafia wrote:What's a good armor item for ADCs nowadays, excluding GA?
I buy that anyways, also not an armor item.In post 646, Dwlee99 wrote:
blood thirsterIn post 644, Voidedmafia wrote:What's a good armor item for ADCs nowadays, excluding GA?
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Not really into playing Ez, more Ashe, Cait, Jhin, and probly Jinx.In post 648, Nosferatu wrote:
if you play blue ez, you can (not really a choice unless you get triforce) get icebornIn post 644, Voidedmafia wrote:What's a good armor item for ADCs nowadays, excluding GA?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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skill order's right, build order's good, but why Top?In post 748, Accountant wrote:I tried out Ashe top today, first time i've played her since the rework, went in blind without any knowledge of build/skill order(ftr I maxed w->q->e and built runaans -> ie -> bloodthirster) and got an S+, destroyed everyone, great times2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Pretty sure at least half of the ones I played last week weren't.In post 744, PJ. wrote:Every game you're in has premades. Probably 4 duos.
Alternate tank option if your jungler and top laner decide to go damage champs or someone cinderhulk doesn't work on; location for sustain for your ADC or your whole party (Sona, etc.); Location for good hard CC to lock down targets (Sona, Naut) or to just help amp other damage or provide some extra damage).In post 766, PJ. wrote:I used to BE AP Soraka before they made her shitty.
I agree that for the first ~9 minutes, support is more important than ADC. That doesn't make it a good, healthy or interesting role. And it doesn't make it one that really has a direct impact on the game.
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Considering some games require waiting for a champ's Flash to be up (which has a longer c/d than Cho getting back to full stacks), is that really a problem?In post 907, RayFrost wrote:He loses 1/3 of his survivability per death and has to wait another 2 minutes' worth of time to regain it.
Though, in Kled's case, it doesn't really seem like he has good enough dismounted skills to keep him up.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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No, but then I've barely played Support at all since S3 and it's a wildly different game than what I'm used to.Do they understand how to manipulate the lane?
Do they know how to punish the enemy bot lane's minor mistakes?
Do they understand when they're stronger than the other team in full trades/all-ins?
Do they know how to initiate for ganks?
Do they know how to predict and prepare to counter 4-man or 5-man ganks?
Do they know when to back? When to roam?
Do they know where the most important places to ward is throughout the game and how to determine this?
Do they know how to build? (This is STILL a common problem in my ELO)
I need to find time to get my placements done. Ever since those stupid d/cs I haven't really mustered the will to try to finish those.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Can I take it?In post 1408, animorpherv1 wrote:We have 1 spot apparently.
Acc.: I'm pretty sure Veigar is more dependent on getting Q stacks than he is killing the opposing laner. It's not like he can't, just that if it doesn't net him a kill its kinda not worth it (unless you trade with E's).2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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So, i got flamed in my most recent game for going cull first. I'm not that upset at the flaming simply because I know it's A.) wrong and B.) frustration, but is Cull really that bad compared to Doran's?
I know Doran's is better for trading, but Cull is for farming, isn't it?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Why is Essence Reaver a good item on Ashe, CDR aside? Maybe I'm just not looking but I've never seen her get mana back for autoing the same target twice (since applying frost shot makes the next AA count as a crit for her)2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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3.6k seems way too expensive on Ashe for just 70 AD and up to 30% CDR. Seems way more in the 2.7-3.0K range, since she can't/doesn't use the mana regen part of it.In post 1479, RayFrost wrote:It's purely about the cdr. Other AD items are better than essence reaver aside from the fact it gives cdr.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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...Still seems pricey, but if you add the crit (which I think I acidentally rolled into the 30% CDR somehow) I can buy it being a 3K+ item.In post 1482, zoraster wrote:You're forgetting 20% Crit chance as well. The mana regen is a very minor consideration.
Maybe I just wish she could get the full benefit of the item like she can with Runaan's, IE, BT, etc. Just me.
Btw, if I don't want to go Youmu's/Duskblade Jhin, what items am I looking for? IE, BT, RFC, Reaver?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Why would you even bother trying to do that kind of thing in the first place? This isn't Ranked 5v5.In post 1623, Dwlee99 wrote:why would someone pick my champ for me without asking if I had the champ they wanted to trade
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Ask me again on Saturday and I'll take you up on that.In post 1625, Maestro wrote:Hey pimps and playas! Anybody wanna join me and Klaz for Blinds where we play champs we've barely ever played before?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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The thing is, I really dislike trying to be a leader. I mean, I can ping and stuff when I agree, but I'm just not a guy who can up and say "now do this".In post 1635, KaleiÐoscøpe wrote:They just need guidance. Lead them to victory
Not to mention I'm admittedly sometimes as lost as they are in the mid-game, so.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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What breaking point? This isn't something solely contained in LoL.In post 1640, Psyche wrote:you just haven't reached your breaking point yet2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Anyone having trouble getting their pvp.net kernel to work so League starts up? I couldn't get it to start, thought it was because I hadn't updated since 6.19, removed and re-downloaded the game, and it still isn't working. What's up with it?
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You're playing the "dodge bad teammates to play League" mini game, the interesting mechanic that players introduced by being dicks (or picking champs they're utter trash with, or a combination of both)) that requires you to wade through the bad players to actually be able to play on the ranked ladder. It's not no longer playing league when doing this is a prerequisite to playing league.In post 1798, Accountant wrote:Dodging is great if you want to climb, but then you aren't playing league of legends any more, you're playing the "dodge bad teammates" mini game
Also, the fact that Riot allows for at least 1 queue dodge with such a minimal loss means it's a legit and ethical strategy up until it inflicts punishments for doing it too much (the best analogue I can think of is the tilt mechanic in pinball).
On another topic, any help with that pvp.net patcher kernel not responding issue I brought up last page?
P-EDIT: So by adding a "X-time minimal loss dodge" to the game, Riot is saying that queue dodging in the short term is an acceptable way to play the game?
Thanks for defeating your own argument!
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AP Xin hasn't been viable, much less even worthwhile since pre-season 1, I think? Definitely pre-S2.In post 1815, Nosferatu wrote:my friend could probably climb out of bronze whenever he wants but refuses in favor of playing meme shit like fucking ap xin zhao
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How are trolling and toxicity part of the spirit of the game?In post 1840, Oman wrote:
Literally what this entire argument is about. I can see it from both sides.In post 1837, Psyche wrote:only if you define "the spirit of the game" in a particular way
trash talk, yes. Outright harmful toxicity, no.
Anyone else have any idea about the kernel failure?
P-EDIT: I find very little sense any of those picks and don't see why any other regular pick would be better.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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I would this weekend if I could load league at all.In post 1903, zoraster wrote:Anyone who hasn't played doom bots yet want to play with me?
Is there anything I can do besides re-downloading the client (which I already did) to get this damn patcher to work?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Number of available hard CC abilities vs. percentage of hard CC abilities hit?In post 1949, Psyche wrote:i've learned the api
eventually i'll be nonlazy enough to do my own studies
i wonder if you guys have any ideas?
one thing i'm interested in doing is using the "provides for the team" section of lolguru's champion pages to examine how abstracted champion strengths like "Poke", "Disengage" or "Zone Control" are represented within solo queue and contribute to winrates both overall and within/against particular team compositions
shouldn't produce terribly surprising results in general but might uncover or highlight some dynamics of the metagame
maybe as a pilot i'll just relate the stuff with champion.gg statistics
but maybe i should think of more productive ways to use my time
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It's possible MF was picked earlier than the Leona?In post 2000, Randomnamechange wrote:mf supp shouldn't be played into a leona, that is awful.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Kog just isn't the kind of champion I'm comfortable with, though even if he was I'm not sure i could help you theorycraft.In post 2077, Ankamius wrote:I kinda wish anybody else outside of the kog-main club I'm in played him at all since I really want to theorycraft stuff about him now that everybody has forgotten he exists.
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I guess I should start maining top or something since adcs aren't going to be very practical nowadays. I personally don't get how jungling is easy, though, since you have to know when to farm and when to gank. Or am I overthinking it?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Still, I think it's providing the IWC more international exposure since they now get a chance to deny long-standing regions a 3rd seed at worlds instead of being relegated to only 1 team representing all of them at worlds for the most part.
It's basically Worlds Groups lite, as far as I can tell.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Either a lower cd or a lower mana cost on his ult, and fixed a bug where his W wouldn't damage if you flashed away during the animation or got out of his attack range.In post 2881, Iecerint wrote:That said, he's been directly and indirectly buffed recently I think.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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