Mini Normal Stats Update

Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:06 am

In post 4, Hoopla wrote:
In post 3, Ether wrote:I...don't really agree that 5 town power roles is ever a good idea in a normal setup. At that point setup speculation becomes more of a factor in the daygame than I'm comfortable with.
I agree that 5 town PR's (even if some of them are limited shot) will have a lot of the game decided by night actions, but when mods want 2-3 scum roles in the game, you need to give a lot of power to the town.

Sticking with an all goon team, or something simple like 2x Goons/1x 1-Shot Rolecop allows you to create a fair game without overloading the game with power.

One problem with the above -- Having 4-5 town prs can make it extrenely hard for mafia to find believable fakeclaims.

Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:34 pm

Maybe out of the more recently ran setups?

Post Post #43 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:58 am

I considered running 13:2 mountainous in the Large Normal queue (closed) to see how people react, but then reconsidered since it had to pass balance reviews amongst other things.

Post Post #62 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:27 am

In post 59, mhsmith0 wrote:What are some examples of town sided normal games that have happened? My gut was that mini normal 1775 was town sided, and I remember complaints on mini normal 1782 (though I disagreed there). Any that stand out from those who know a lot on those things?

After looking through this thread, my setup prob. ended up scumsided after all, but I think it was fairly close to balance (perhaps the ninja should've been 1-shot instead of Odd night...).

Post Post #64 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:35 am

Yeah. I also didn't expect the Follower to get killed N1.

Make the ninja 1-Shot and possibly give daytalk to the neighbors probably would've balanced it.

Post Post #66 (isolation #5) » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:44 am

Yep, that's exactly what hapened. Part of the problem was scum didn't have too many good fakeclaims when ran up. Swing was a big part of it though.

Post Post #71 (isolation #6) » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:38 am

The investigatives were neighbors; PAY ATTN!

Post Post #72 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:39 am

Lik e I said, the ninja pught to be 1-Shot and the neighbors should've had daytalk.... Maybe for as long as the mafia encryptor lived.

Post Post #115 (isolation #8) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:49 pm

@Mhsmith
I think you are over-simplifying the problem. You have to remember that while a lot of veteran players play mini normals, I would suspect that a good proportion, possibily the majority, of mini normal players are newer players and that also affects winrates.

That said, more town power is prob needed.