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Oh i realized you changed it. That doesn't matter.
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I think self voting at anytime scummy and town should never do it hence my vote. He's not town imo. Look at his other posts also and it just proves he's not town. The vote hopping and name calling (which is unnecessary) are not things I see coming from town so unless somebody scum slips I'm pretty much parking hereFYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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Sorry RVS is over and was over on page 1 imo.In post 45, Kappy wrote:
Absolutely nothing. This is RVS.In post 44, Mizzytastic wrote:Kappy, what do you hope to achieve by moving your vote around?FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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1. If he's somehow lynched while you are gone why do you think you would be implicated?In post 56, karnos wrote:UNVOTE:
In all seriousness, I don't see a good target for a serious vote yet. I don't think kappy is in danger of being quick-lynched, but I don't want to be implicated if it does somehow happen while I am away.
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You knowing that though just means you can play messy as scum and use that to your advantageIn post 58, Persivul wrote:
You have that backwards. People tend to be more careful as scum than as town.In post 57, Sickofit1138 wrote:Actually Percivuls general misunderstanding and not reading the thread spells s-c-u-m-m-y to me at leastFYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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To be fair he wasn't actually hopping on a wagon though and I actually read that as he was ok with a wagon happening. Wagons don't count as wagons imo until they have more than 50% of the required number of lynches. 2/3 votes does not make a wagonIn post 64, Persivul wrote:
I understand that, and by itself it doesn't bother me. The problem is that you said in 9, "In post 49, Sickofit1138 wrote:Since you are still on this topic and apparently don't understand, I posted my vote and it got to the preview and it showed the two first votes and I was like ehwho cares I'm fine with a wagon.i didnt know i was hopping on a wagon"
One of the bolded is an outright lie. Which one is the lie, and why did you make it?FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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In post 66, Chumba wrote:I actually read that as he was ok with a wagon happening.FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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I'm not defending him. I'm just providing my opinion on a game relevant conversation. Otherwise known as playing the game...In post 72, Persivul wrote:
He told us what he was supposedly thinking. You don't need to guess at it or interpret it.In post 70, Chumba wrote:I can't speak to what he was thinking. I'm just saying that's how I interpreted it.
There are lots of issues on D1 that aren't that damning. Small issues can lead to bigger ones. Is it your policy to defend anyone against a charge that you don't find that damning? I doubt it, so...why are you defending in this case?Either way I don't think it's that damning.FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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I'm not sure you are even reading. I wasn't eve accused of defending kappy I was accused of defending sick.In post 76, MechaGoomba wrote:
"which is that he isn't scummy and shouldn't be lynched."In post 74, Chumba wrote: I'm not defending him. I'm just providing my opinion
I could potentially see you deciding to defend Kappy as town, but going back on it when you're called out? Pure self-preservation.
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Also not sure why you typed this. I certainly didn't say thisIn post 76, MechaGoomba wrote:which is that he isn't scummy and shouldn't be lynched."FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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In post 73, Sickofit1138 wrote:Because I'm vein pushed at by messy scum.
Per sibyl in order to play a twin game you have to read the thread and you didn't. No widom applies to this.
You were caught changing your story so its understandable somebody is going to call you on it. Why do you think only scum would call you on it and not town?FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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You have a case on me? No you don't. What you did was falsely accuse me of defending somebody and another false accusation of me of going back on it when called outIn post 83, MechaGoomba wrote:Yes, I made a mistake. Does this mistake impact my case against you in any way, and if so, how?
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Those are your words not mine.In post 88, MechaGoomba wrote:So, you are adamantly claiming that you never defended sick or townread him and that everyone that thinks you did is an idiot that can't read properly.
I never defended sick (I did however give my opinion on the pressure on him) and I never townread him.
I never said anyone who thinks I did can't read properly, I pretty much said you have had issues reading properly because you mentioned me defended kappy when I was accused of defending sick and again later when you said I dismissed percivul's read of sick when I did no such thing.
I'm also slightly confused as to your last request. I haven't insulted anybody at all this game. If you are offended by the reading comprehension comments I'm terribly sorry about that however that's on you. I suggest in the future if you don't want to be called out on it, you make sure you read properly before accusing people of things to make sure they are accurate.FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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Thats a weird thing to do. It's not suspicious for a player to vote another player for doing something scummy.In post 97, species wrote:Also keeping an eye on whoever is genuinely questioning/voting Kappy for the RVS self-voteFYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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Not really sure how you can say I was "that invested"when all I did was provide an opinion.In post 98, MechaGoomba wrote:People don't generally get that invested in devil's-advocate arguments.FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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That's an excellent point.In post 124, Sickofit1138 wrote:
I just picked up on this.In post 58, Persivul wrote:
You have that backwards. People tend to be more careful as scum than as town.In post 57, Sickofit1138 wrote:Actually Percivuls general misunderstanding and not reading the thread spells s-c-u-m-m-y to me at least
Persivul according to this reasoning I would be town.
Uou are only using abject ice tells when they suit your case.
You reasoning is not solid and therefore you are my biggest scum read.FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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he's not hurting town either though. If anyone is hurting town atm it's the people who is making a mountain out of a molehill.In post 160, Persivul wrote:You're not helping town by forcing yourself to be the center of attention. You should know that.
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post 150 actually kind of supports my non belief actually. The fact that you say his posts up until post 125 match his scum meta means that up until that post you were honestly scum reading him.
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not planning on pushing him and didn't ask you to support it. i find it weird that you felt the need to defend yourself there.In post 168, Persivul wrote:
As you note, it's a meta read based on my experience with him and a review of a completed scum game of his. It probably is meh to you. Unless you begin to push him, I don't have need to support it further.In post 163, Chumba wrote:I am also confused how you did a 180 on sick, your reasoning doesn't really make sense to me and using meta and what i assume is an ongoing game are both kind of meh.FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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1. no that post plus your push on him clearly implies to me you were scum reading. You want to deny it fine, but I don't believe youIn post 172, Persivul wrote:
Incorrect. A handful of posts matching meta from a single scum game is enough to create suspicion, but not a full scum read.In post 169, Chumba wrote:post 150 actually kind of supports my non belief actually. The fact that you say his posts up until post 125 match his scum meta means that up until that post you were honestly scum reading him.
Your RVS vote.still not changing my vote off kappy
Does it concern you that I'm voting Kappy now?but I fully support a persivul lynch atm
2. I am not sure why you think my vote on kappy was an RVS vote but it most certainly was not and I even stated that i wasn't going to change my vote off him for the remainder of the day phase which should have been a huge clue that it was serious. That makes the second person in this game who seems to have reading comprehension issues.
3. Not really because bussing happens. if you want to buss your buddy for an attempt at town cred I'm ok with that. Scum getting lynched is good no matter how it gets done.FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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But that isn't what I saw you do and your post 150 supports that you didn't have a null read on him.In post 174, Persivul wrote:Are you denying that people push null reads in order to sort them? If not, do you have meta on me to support your inference?FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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I also want to point out that the post I quoted doesn't really make sense.
I don't disagree with people pushing on null reads in order to sort them but if for some reason I did, why would I need to have meta on you to support my opinion?FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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interesting note here. I decided to take on further and look at 3 completed games. 2 games where he was town and 1 where he was scum.In post 185, Persivul wrote:
OK, I checked Newbie 1692. I didn't see you pressuring lurkers. On the contrary, a lot of your talk was about keeping pressure on someone who was at L-2.In post 184, karnos wrote:I tend to distrust hiding players in every game, feel free to look at my game history.
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Good advice. tone/inflection/sarcasm/joking/etc can't be picked up reading posts on the interwebzIn post 196, MechaGoomba wrote:If you're going to joke, put emoticons indicating it. Otherwise, we'd have every scummy post ever written off as a joke as soon as someone notices.FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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Good job. I was searching for lurking and hiding in his iso. I'm limited on my phone so missed hidingIn post 198, karnos wrote:
Yes, and as town...In post 190, Persivul wrote:Scum - Open 638 - "I don't like the hiding... it makes me think you have something to hide."
1700 In my (brief) experience playing here, I've noticed scum are often the quiet players who post the minimum amount to keep suspicion off, without trying to draw attention to themselves.
1692 Of course, I also find the quietest players are often that because they are mafia trying to keep a low profile, and the annoying talky players are sometimes just poorly playing townies, so you may yet be innocent.
It's part of my general thought process every game.
Also, FYI, 638 was multiball. While I was scum, I was also scum hunting to kill the other scum team.
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It doesn't work both ways actually. Your "sloppiness" could easily be faked probably more so than his. The fact is if you believe your original statement you have to apply it to everyone or it makes you look like a hypocrite.In post 212, Persivul wrote:
I believe it's that I said that town is more likely to be sloppy than scum, and I was pressing him on a contradiction which he claims was just sloppiness.In post 211, MechaGoomba wrote:Sick, would you mind saying exactly what Persy's contradiction is? I don't see anything of the sort in his ISO, and you don't seem to have said anything about it. The only thing like a contradiction is that he missed Kappy changing his vote, and, um, that is entirely NAI.
Again though this post leads me to believe that you had more than a null read on sick (and still do instead of the town read on him). If you are town reading him you would have conceded he was probably sloppy and not a bold accusation of contradicting himself.FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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Do people not read my posts? I'm not voting him just cause of his self vote in RVSIn post 218, Saru wrote:Just a question(or a couple) for you Chumba: if you are voting for Kappy totally based on the self-vote in RVS, what about that makes it scummy?
And while it wasn't given as an actual reason, I'm including the below because town wants to hurry up and find scum. They don't want to prolong Rvs imo.In post 46, Chumba wrote:I think self voting at anytime scummy and town should never do it hence my vote. He's not town imo. Look at his other posts also and it just proves he's not town. The vote hopping and name calling (which is unnecessary) are not things I see coming from town so unless somebody scum slips I'm pretty much parking hereIn post 47, Chumba wrote:
Sorry RVS is over and was over on page 1 imo.In post 45, Kappy wrote:
Absolutely nothing. This is RVS.In post 44, Mizzytastic wrote:Kappy, what do you hope to achieve by moving your vote around?FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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You're right. As soon as you said I voted kappy for his self vote in Rvs I stopped reading the rest of your post. That's not reading comprehension failure. That's choosing to not continue reading a post that's already starting out false.
I can't give you more reason because I've given all I have. Those 3 things are the most damning things I've seen all game and I'm now convinced kappy is scum and today really needs to end with kappy swinging from the gallows. I'm fine with a persivul lynch but I won't join it cause I'm a woman of my word. I'm parking on kappyFYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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