Mini 1787: Peruvian Nightclub Mafia (Game End!)

Desmond_13 · Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 2:20 am

To quote a famous Matthew: Alright, Alright, Alright

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 2:35 am

In post 1426, Desmond_13 wrote:To quote a famous Matthew: Alright, Alright, Alright

Thought that was Kevin hart...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 2:35 am

Welcome

Hopefully the mod gave you your role pm

Desmond_13 · Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 2:37 am

Jake, from State Farm, we need to hook you up with the Progressive chick

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 3:09 am

I do like chubby chicks

toolenduso · Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 3:29 am

Catching up, need to start again on p55

In post 1250, Tyler the Creator wrote:slightly spooked how quickly xy's wagon vanished

Well, I did invent it just to have a counterwagon...

In post 1270, Jake from State Farm wrote:Has anyone even made a case on zakk? I swear I haven't seen a single convincing peice of evidence on him plus he basically stayed on ha's wagon all day. I've seen hard core bussing before and this didn't even look like it to me.

The vote on HA came on the same page as two other people hopped on HA at once, it came after both those people and it happened as people were starting to question floof.

toolenduso · Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 3:31 am

In post 1431, toolenduso wrote:Well, I did invent it just to have a counterwagon...

(This might be confusing. I did scumread xyzzy but my main reason for voting them was to start a counterwagon)

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 3:35 am

In post 1431, toolenduso wrote:The vote on HA came on the same page as two other people hopped on HA at once, it came after both those people and it happened as people were starting to question floof.

but he was already voting ha before that. he unvoted thinking he was voting somebody else which is weird but he was really the first to vote ha. I think that was the vote that dunn came to ha's defense while at the same time threw some mud on him to make sure it didn't look like a defense.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 3:37 am

In post 187, Floof wrote:VOTE: H_A

Actually thinking about it this needs to post more.

In post 193, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 187, Floof wrote:VOTE: H_A

Actually thinking about it this needs to post more.
Not sure if that's deserving of a vote, he just got in here with this

In post 172, heuristically_alone wrote:Hey everyone. Feel free to call me Alone. This turned into a crazy weekend. Starting tomorrow I will be able to take this game super serious!
Though his followup is kind of iffy

heuristically_alone wrote:VOTE: Zachstralkita
Your first post and post 122 have been the 2 worst posts of the entire game. And in general you got more talk than game.
First of all there wasn't anything special about his first post? Just an rvs vote and his entry

Second of all you pretty much read to me as going for the easy lynch/joining a bandwagon, especially since you haven't contributed any other reads of your own

See he voted HA and then dunn soft defends ha and actually throws mud on both ha and floof... This makes dunn look bad given ha's flip

toolenduso · Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 5:24 am

In post 1433, Jake from State Farm wrote:but {floof} was already voting ha before that. he unvoted thinking he was voting somebody else which is weird but he was really the first to vote ha. I think that was the vote that dunn came to ha's defense while at the same time threw some mud on him to make sure it didn't look like a defense.

Right, and floof's original vote on HA was to get him to talk more. Which I thought was weird, because why would floof specifically want to get HA to talk more when HA wasn't the only one not posting much? So I asked floof about it, and she never responded.

And I think the "unvote" of jaack explains why floof would keep her vote on scumbuddyHA.

In post 1434, Jake from State Farm wrote:See {floof} voted HA and then dunn soft defends ha and actually throws mud on both ha and floof... This makes dunn look bad given ha's flip

I mean, yeah, I get your point. I hope we get a scumflip out of the floof/zakk/desmond(?) slot and then dunn will look more town to you, but for now my thought on it is basically this. It could be soft defending or it could be questioning floof. I see it more as questioning floof.

Bins · Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 5:33 am

I'd probably put my ordered list like:

Zachstralkita
toolenduso
Dunnstral
Tyler the Creator
Robert2424

Jake from State Farm

hobbez/floof/Zakk/Desmond_13
Jaack
xyzzy

Really hard for me to sort: Keyser Söze.

Bins · Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 5:35 am

The reason Keyser bugs me so much is not because of the whole "Hey, Irao is really bugging me guys but let's vote H_A instead of him" even though it seemed the H_A scumread was driven from the Irao scumread, but rather actually... this is the post I keep looking at:

In post 268, heuristically_alone wrote:
In post 82, Dunnstral wrote:I have a sneaking suspicion that Keyser is mafia but don't have anything to back that up
Because literally every post he has made has been completely useless. Up to this point, he had only joined in post 55 voting Jack as mafia (a surprisingly large amount of people immediately read Jack as mafia or town based off of his simple post 13)

Then immediately in posts 56-58 and 79-81 just quotes what others are saying and maybe asks follow up questions without literally given up anything original on his own. The only other posts he has made are 204-206 and 222, all of which he does the exact same thing. Just quoting others and giving a quick comment, but absolutely saying nothing original or doing nothing to help the game. 205 unvotes Jack, but that's that.

This just seems so forced from H_A. I mean did he talk like this about anyone else? Calling a partner "completely useless" is an easy bussing stance.

Bins · Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 5:38 am

This post is what I'm referring to when I say I didn't understand why Keyser voted H_A over Irao at this point:

In post 297, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 265, heuristically_alone wrote:@Zach, are you mafia?

@iraonavp - do you class this as "asking questions without answers"?

In post 268, heuristically_alone wrote:Because literally every post he has made has been completely useless. Up to this point, he had only joined in post 55 voting Jack as mafia (a surprisingly large amount of people immediately read Jack as mafia or town based off of his simple post 13)

Then immediately in posts 56-58 and 79-81 just quotes what others are saying and maybe asks follow up questions without literally given up anything original on his own. The only other posts he has made are 204-206 and 222, all of which he does the exact same thing. Just quoting others and giving a quick comment, but absolutely saying nothing original or doing nothing to help the game. 205 unvotes Jack, but that's that.
Let me take this apart, piece-by-piece:

"every post he has made has been completely useless"
- please quote my "useless" posts.

"he had only joined in post 55 voting Jack as mafia"
- that is the game, you find something suspicious, you vote. I believe my vote was the first vote, it was not me jumping on a bandwagon. if you want me to break down the development of my read of Jaaack I will.

"Then immediately in posts 56-58 and 79-81 just quotes what others are saying and maybe asks follow up questions without literally given up anything original on his own."
- this highlights your lack of perception. In those posts I was challenging people's positions and stating my own read/perspective on players. There was no
'me-sheeping-everyone-ba-ba-ba' posting.

"doing nothing to help the game"
- this is another unsupported generic scum-read reason.

"205 unvotes Jack, but that's that."
- that is information. Do you agree/oppose the reasons why I voted/unvoted Jaaack?

This feels like a manufactured sheep-dump off iraonavp's unsupported logic.

VOTE: heuristically_alone

When questioned about it he waited to give an answer and then I was never really satisfied with the answer he gave.

I feel like scum having DayTalk really makes this seem like a possible planned bus between them. Especially for H_A, the Keyser read seems to really stand out.

Desmond_13 · Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 5:41 am

I've read up. Wow, that was a lot. Happy to be in and I have a few reads. With that being said.

Vote:zakk

That should be hammer time?

Bins · Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 5:42 am

I... uh... what?

Desmond_13 · Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 5:42 am

In post 1439, Desmond_13 wrote:I've read up. Wow, that was a lot. Happy to be in and I have a few reads. With that being said.

Vote:zakk

That should be hammer time?

I replaced Zakk. I see that now. Well, I didn't like him anyway.

Bins · Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 5:43 am

I think this is my cue to officially give up reading the zakk slot forever.

Desmond_13 · Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 5:43 am

Everyone has that one. Mine just happened to be now haha

Desmond_13 · Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 5:44 am

In post 1442, Bins wrote:I think this is my cue to officially give up reading the zakk slot forever.

Yeah. No scum on this side. They would have nixed me voting for myself way before that haha

Desmond_13 · Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 6:01 am

Unvote

needless to say.

toolenduso · Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 6:16 am

In post 1439, Desmond_13 wrote:
Vote:zakk

...whoah.

Desmond_13 · Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 6:17 am

I spend 2 hours reading 57 pages and miss one. I'm sure it's happened before. I wasn't told who I replaced, just come on in lol

Robert2424 · Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 6:19 am

Let's just hit all my buttons. Self voting. Mmmmm.

Robert2424 · Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 6:19 am

Desmond. Do you have your role pm?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2016 6:20 am

In post 1435, toolenduso wrote:Right, and floof's original vote on HA was to get him to talk more. Which I thought was weird, because why would floof specifically want to get HA to talk more when HA wasn't the only one not posting much? So I asked floof about it, and she never responded.

except that's not very uncommon. I remember being in games where I have gone after somebody for something and somebody asked me why them and not somebody else who is also guilty of it. But here you go, something I never do. Since dunn isn't going to get lynched today for the sake of my own sanity if the replacement doesn't impress me I will vote him and help get some clarity on the situation. If he flips town I hope everyone will at least reconsider their read on dunn.