Mini 1787: Peruvian Nightclub Mafia (Game End!)

[Tyler the Creator]

993 is the scummiest post ive read all day for obvious reasons

i feel like the game is dragging slightly but we really need to get content from zakk

[Tyler the Creator]

I wasn't attacking you moreso DEFENDING FREE SPEECH

are you serious?

[Dunnstral]

I wouldn't mind lynching zakk right now to be honest

But I know that's not going to happen because we're all pansies and have to wait for "zakk to provide content "

Side note bins hasn't provided anything useful all day long so far but I will agree that some of xyzzy's stuff is starting to look sketchy too

I think jaack is still stuck on his percentages and robert being mafia from day 1

[Dunnstral]

I wasn't attacking you moreso DEFENDING FREE SPEECH

are you serious?

He thinks I'm mafia (?) and so will hard defend anyone I talk about

[Tyler the Creator]

i see literally no downside to letting a slot give as much analyzable content as possible

im just wondering if that's ever gonna happen at this point

[Zachstralkita]

I wasn't attacking you moreso DEFENDING FREE SPEECH

are you serious?

He thinks I'm mafia (?) and so will hard defend anyone I talk about

I was in no way really defending xyzzy, fine with the lynch

I wouldn't mind lynching zakk right now to be honest

But I know that's not going to happen because we're all pansies and have to wait for "zakk to provide content "

Are you going to mind when he townflips?

[Dunnstral]

I wasn't attacking you moreso DEFENDING FREE SPEECH

are you serious?

He thinks I'm mafia (?) and so will hard defend anyone I talk about

I was in no way really defending xyzzy, fine with the lynch

I wouldn't mind lynching zakk right now to be honest

But I know that's not going to happen because we're all pansies and have to wait for "zakk to provide content "

Are you going to mind when he townflips?

If he town flips I'd have a pretty good idea of how the game would turn out so no I wouldn't mind that actually

I'm also a bit more fine with getting xyzzy now but it's not who I dominantly want to get and I don't want the wagon to move

[toolenduso]

731 (Dunnstral) - I don't understand how this isn't obvious to anyone else; h_a, who was scum, tried arguing that Floof and Bins aren't scum together, and then almost immediately after suggested that they're both scummy, without any other info. I think h_a was trying to avoid saying anything too substantial about anyone, while still trying to make at least 1 scum partner look better.

The problem with this theory, for me, is that I've done literally this exact same thing as scum, but with two town. I get what you're saying, I just don't really find it all that convincing.

I do think that zakk is a solid lynch, but I am a bit concerned with how quickly this push on him developed....

Pretty much the exact concern I've developed. It goes back to what I said about joining wagons with people who look scummy to you -- I'm suspicious of Tyler and xyzzy; both want to lynch zakk. So I have to consider the likelihood that: a) scum are bussing, b) zakk is town or c) I'm totally wrong about who's scum. Will reflect on this more once I'm done catching up.

Would have more fun if people would help me lynch scum but nobody seems to want to

What do you think of HA's interactions with Dunn?

VOTE: DUNNSTRAL

This is confusing. Didn't you come into D2 townreading Dunn?

I replaced it as a favor but I'm not going to just replace into this slot and roll over for a mislynch immediately because you fuckers are lazy

Wasn't this posted before zakk even got a role PM?

Edit from later: Yep, this was before zakk posted in-thread that he didn't get a role PM. Zakk, can you explain?

[toolenduso]

For now, I am going to

VOTE: xyzzy

[Tyler the Creator]

scum bus

a lot

in this meta

varies slightly from person to person

but you'll only ever find someone hard defend a buddy with the spotlight on them when it's a very strong scum player with a lot of push and pull in the thread and probably a lot of towncred or a fresh newbie who doesn't really know any better

outside of that, they'll either bus or keep the option open

how would you order your scumreads based just on individual strength, tool?

and are they based strictly off of HA interactions or what?

[Jaack]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: xyzzy
Game is slowing down and my vote on Robert isn't doing anything. This wagon looks fun too.

[Dunnstral]

Suddenly everyone is fine with lynching xyzzy

Even though floof/zakk has literally done nothing to warrant attention being taken away from themselves

[zakk]

got hobbes role PM. i'm town.

was able to read the first few pages adn probably will skim the rest for important stuff. here's my notes:

mini 1787 peruvian nightclub

first post (3) by zachstralkita seems town

dunnstral and jaack voted H_A-scum right away, interesting. scummy?

xyzzy 7 sounds fabricated and scummy

jake from state farm 8 sounds good/town

jaack trying to cast actual suspicion in 13 already? for dumb reasons? scummy

dunnstral 14 also casting actual suspicion and seems scummy

- oh, mafia has daytalk. one of them was probably egging the other on to egg me on, and then they probably conferred about vocally backtracking/crucified me for posting without a role PM

- xyzzy and jaack seem scummiest after p1, zachstralk seems town

- good to know h_a was scum and iraonavp was town over my d1 reread. it shaped my thoughts quite a bit.

bins 23 seems town
zach 25 seems town

dunnstral scums it up on p2... very cheeky. xyzzy asking 34 is kinda like setting up for cheekiness + distancing by way of "not distancing"

tyler 50 i like

keyser 55 seems town

jaack 66 takes the whole xyzzy / dunnstral thing far too seriously methinks. we'll see how that pans out
then he votes known town (iraonavp)

jaack 68 wants to know why zachstralka likes tyler the creator. if that's scum wanting to know why town townreads town, that'd be fantastic.

zachstralka is hella too weird in 70 to be scum. very low on my scum list.

tool 71 seems oddly calculated. 74 clears it up though. especially the "dunn is my only townlean" part

dunnstral 78 feels like a fate alt/copycat trying to pretend he's better than he actually is and super egotistical "Oh yea now we've got that reverse bandwagon where everyone says they townread me to blend in instead" lmao get the fuck over yourself

also dunn 78 says he likes tyler for "looking at" xyzzy -- let's see if he stays consistent on that

keyzersoze 79 arguing that robert24s intro post was null instead of weird seems more townie than scummy. that's a really weak defense, scum usually try to go for something more solid than that, unless they're just trying to post content, and KS has already posted enough content to not be considered scummy at this point -- so townpoints to him for this

dunn's 82 seems townie

KS 83 reply seems ... idk i can never trust denzel washington after training day, i wish if he was town he picked another gif

dunn 85 is the most ridiculous kind of filler... zachstralka's reply in 87 is possibly even worse

jaack 88 is the "let me tell you about my playstyle" scumtell -- scum points

i hate that xyzzy's 89 is basically exactly the kind of post this is. and he's got the same top townread as i do at this point. ugh. that puts me in a bit of a pickle bc xyzzy is my biggest scumread here. oh well. 36 pages to go, we'll see what happens upon further skimming. he's moved up a slot for this. town points.

dunn 91 to jaack is !!!! hell yes. good. town points.

actually i'm gonna end this post now. i have another game to read as well and 4 pages of deep dive is enough for now.

my reads (towniest at top):

hobbez

floof

Zakk (heyoooo)
Tyler the Creator
Keyser Söze
Zachstralkita
Jake from State Farm
toolenduso
Robert2424
Bins
Dunnstral
xyzzy
Jaack

vote: jaack

idk if i'm interested in an xyzzy lynch atm even though it's the biggest that's not mine

Suddenly everyone is fine with lynching xyzzy

Even though floof/zakk has literally done nothing to warrant attention being taken away from themselves

loooool. scumplaining much?


dunn, what's your current opinion of jaack?

[zakk]

idk what the deadline is i'm about to check but if this game's got a bit to go, i have something else to catch up on atm too (replaced into too many games at once)

[toolenduso]

scum bus

a lot

in this meta

Fair.

how would you order your scumreads based just on individual strength, tool?

I'm going to (strategically) only partially answer this right now -- xyzzy and zakk are my top two, you are third. I can be more clear later.

and are they based strictly off of HA interactions or what?

Not strictly, no. HA's interactions are part, voting arcs are part, posting is part.

[zakk]

I voted for Robert because he was the largest wagon.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Keyser is mafia but don't have anything to back that up

Same.

VOTE: Keyser Söze

Mafia can't be this dumb, this guys town

What?

I'm town-aligned, but how are my posts dumb?

You're just sheeping onto bandwagons and you saying "same" and voting Keyser was comical

if dunn and keyser are scum together, this exchange makes a LOT of sense

plus, so does the iraonavp kill.

[zakk]

vote:iraonavp

Hey bud that's a town you're voting for

What do you think about the things I've said recently? About jaack and iraonavp

this seems a little too sure to be believable

what had iraonavp done at this point to make dunn believe he was town? saying "same" and voting keyser soze. that was it. and suddenly he was "too dumb to be scum" and he was getting defended by dunn

loooool

[Dunnstral]

got hobbes role PM. i'm town.

dunn, what's your current opinion of jaack?

Are you asking me this because of my post 91? I think he's probably town now and wouldn't want to go for him
Though I can obviously relate to your vote at that point

Suddenly everyone is fine with lynching xyzzy

Even though floof/zakk has literally done nothing to warrant attention being taken away from themselves

loooool. scumplaining much?

I will say it's interesting that you stopped at post 91, as I think there are interesting things around that point of the game

[Dunnstral]

I voted for Robert because he was the largest wagon.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Keyser is mafia but don't have anything to back that up

Same.

VOTE: Keyser Söze

Mafia can't be this dumb, this guys town

What?

I'm town-aligned, but how are my posts dumb?

You're just sheeping onto bandwagons and you saying "same" and voting Keyser was comical

if dunn and keyser are scum together, this exchange makes a LOT of sense

plus, so does the iraonavp kill.

I'm not seeing a lot of correlation between me and keyser being mafia there but I guess I can see what you're saying kinda
For iraonavp there's actually no correlation at all and he died because he was claimed bodyguard and his cc was lynched

[zakk]

lmfao i just iso'd the mod and looked at the votecounts and the one thing that stood out to me was that FLOOF WAS ON THE HEUR WAGON THE ENTIRE DAY IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY SINGLE VOTE COUNT, AND YOU GUYS THINK HE'S SCUM BECAUSE WHY?

LOL


p-edit: oh.
well there's that too. hahaha

[zakk]

so dunn. are you town? catch me up on the game. what's important stuff that will take me a while to get to, that i would be better served knowing BEFORE i read the game?

[Bins]

: |

I'm quickly changing my mind.

I don't think Floof looked that scummy on the H_A wagon.

p-edit fuc man I'm tryna make a point ad why does someone always make if first

[Dunnstral]

my reads (towniest at top):

hobbez

floof

Zakk (heyoooo)
Tyler the Creator
Keyser Söze
Zachstralkita
Jake from State Farm
toolenduso
Robert2424
Bins
Dunnstral
xyzzy
Jaack

vote: jaack

idk if i'm interested in an xyzzy lynch atm even though it's the biggest that's not mine

But xyzzy is the second from the bottom? Why wouldn't you be interested in that?

Though I wouldn't be voting for a lynch at all if I had only read 4 pages

Also you have keyser at the top but then reading like 10 posts further and you're trying to pair him as my scum partner

[Dunnstral]

so dunn. are you town? catch me up on the game. what's important stuff that will take me a while to get to, that i would be better served knowing BEFORE i read the game?

Nothing that really sticks out at me; robert claims weak/macho towny around the time ira and h_a claim protective roles (ira cc's h_a) and so them both being real is believeable, I'll actually look around and see if I can find or remember anythign important in the later half

[zakk]

clearly they're incomplete reads. that's after 4 pages

and me starting a counter-wagon on jaack (which was a d1 wagon, so clearly there was interest) will give information on jaack vs xyzzy