Mini 1787: Peruvian Nightclub Mafia (Game End!)


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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 7:15 am

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In post 898, Dunnstral wrote:Zakk just said he didn't get his role and zachstral is literally blindly defending him regardless
your offense on him is a bit too sticky. I'm with Jake on this one PAL

I'll stop talking and see where this winds up
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 7:28 am

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Ive made a terrible mistake
no investigation no right to speak
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 7:31 am

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In post 888, zakk wrote:@mod: you never sent me floofs role pm. Please confirm in thread that up until now I've had no idea what my role or alignment is.
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 7:34 am

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In post 902, Zulfy wrote:
Ive made a terrible mistake


Zulfy wrote:
In post 888, zakk wrote:@mod: you never sent me floofs role pm. Please confirm in thread that up until now I've had no idea what my role or alignment is.
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 7:36 am

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Ok so like I said nothing Zakk has said mattered and he's a
watch it
- still want to lynch him, obviously.
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 7:39 am

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Watch what...
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 7:41 am

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Come on I didn't say anything worth censoring
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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 7:47 am

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It should go without saying but Zakk should know his role now
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 7:50 am

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how's that scum role pm treating ya zakk?
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 7:53 am

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We need zachstral in here to tell us zakk is town while zakk does nothing :)
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 7:59 am

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I mean i understand zakk went somewhere so that's fine

I think his slot is likely mafia and want to lynch him still, Zachstral is giving me a headache here
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:00 am

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I feel like I am completely detached with this game :?


Starting my catch-up with a
heuristically_alone ISO
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heuristically_alone misses RVS and promises to take the game "super serious". We don't see an extensive catch-up or review of the thread. Instead, heuristically_alone dives straight in, on the offensive by
voting Zachstralkita
. Reasons? heuristically_alone accuses Zachstralkita of making the "2 worst posts of the entire game" and having "more talk than game". Zachstralkita's initial play was low on direct-scum-hunting so Zachstralkita may have been the low-hanging-fruit for heuristically_alone to scum-read. The post heuristically_alone picks out to describe as the "2 worst posts" are:-

post 3, Zachstralkita's RVS vote and post 122:
In post 122, Zachstralkita wrote:None of you see it. I FUCKING SEE IT. This isn't Dunn being town, it's him trying to look like he's being town.

I'd bet one of my body parts on Dunn flipping scum if I.... had enough of those to lose
[I do not see what makes Zachstralkita's RVS vote as one of the worst posts, it's RVS. However, here is heuristically_alone calling Zachstralkita's reason for scum-reading Dunnstral
bad
. So is this heuristically_alone defending scum-partner Dunnstral... or attacking Zachstralkita for scum-reading a townie? The fact it is early D1 play, I can't see scum hard-defending scum. I side with heuristically_alone knowing
who-is-town
and calling Zachstralkita's scum-read of Dunnstral as one of the "worst posts of the entire game".
Half a town-point for Dunnstral
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I hated heuristically_alone's next question:
In post 265, heuristically_alone wrote:@Zach, are you mafia?
It felt like fake scum-hunting (a question with no real purpose/direction). This was fake pressure on Zachstralkita's slot so a possible heuristically_alone-Zachstralkita association here.


At this point, there is growing pressure/suspicion on my slot (by both iraonavp and Dunnstral), and heuristically_alone jumps in with his take of my play:
In post 268, heuristically_alone wrote:Because literally every post he has made has been completely useless. Up to this point, he had only joined in post 55 voting Jack as mafia (a surprisingly large amount of people immediately read Jack as mafia or town based off of his simple post 13)

Then immediately in posts 56-58 and 79-81 just quotes what others are saying and maybe asks follow up questions without literally given up anything original on his own. The only other posts he has made are 204-206 and 222, all of which he does the exact same thing. Just quoting others and giving a quick comment, but absolutely saying nothing original or doing nothing to help the game. 205 unvotes Jack, but that's that.
It echoes the theme that iraonavp was painting that I was not contributing any original content/fake scum-hunting/asking no-answer questions. My frustration for both iraonavp/heuristically_alone and negative feelings for their line of thought was part OMGUS-fueled, part confirmation-bias. I felt like scum had found their target to push with an unsupported scum case [with the added bonus of Dunnstral (who was being mass-town-read) suspicious of me too]. iraonavp flipped town so the picture is clear now: it was a townie's bad scum-case on a townie, then scum opportunistically sheeped/jumped onto the pressure.



We then see heuristically_alone's hard-town read of Dunnstral (Dunnstral recieved many weak town-reads in early D1, I feel like scum joined in with the Dunnstral love-fest):
In post 268, heuristically_alone wrote:@Dunnstral has been by far the most entertaining player for me to follow in this game so far. As for liking him, makes me want him to be town. Best proof I have of you being town is your response to post 34 by xyzzy.
In post 34, xyzzy wrote:Dunnsrtal, can you offer any explanation for your behavior in this game so far?
In post 35, Dunnstral wrote:Probably not

It was quite answered in a joking manner, but I think a mafia would have tried to give a more in depth explanation to his process in attempts to conceal himself.
[This looks like heuristically_alone throwing together any weak reason to town-read Dunnstral. Yeah, liking Dunnstral alot now. I don't think scum would hard-town read their scum-partner without tangible reasons that early on Day 1.]


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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:17 am

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It's funny cause I was townreading zakk's reaction.
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:20 am

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In post 736, Dunnstral wrote:I think that at least one of bins/floof is mafia - that interaction makes it more likely for me but they were also individually scummy (thinking more so bins here)

VOTE: Bins
I actually agree with your analysis of the post H_A made.

I have a pretty strong townread on Jake. I think Robert is town at this point. I really like Tool's catch-up. I find myself really agreeing with what Tyler is saying. I still think Dunn is pretty town just based on how he's acting.

Also, I don't think Keyser was bussing that hard. And I feel that the only weird thing about it was the fact he voted H_A over irao even though I didn't get the impression he thought irao was less scummy. But again, it's super duper unlikely he bussed that hard.
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:22 am

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who's scum bins?
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:23 am

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In post 265, heuristically_alone wrote:@Zach, are you mafia?
This is bugging me.
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:23 am

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In post 871, Zachstralkita wrote:HEY HE GUARANTEED IT MAN YOU KNOW GUARANTEES ARE ALWAY S RIGHT
Who guranteed it?
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:23 am

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In post 913, Bins wrote:It's funny cause I was townreading zakk's reaction.

Yeah so was I
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:24 am

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glad keyser decided to stick around
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:25 am

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In post 917, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 871, Zachstralkita wrote:HEY HE GUARANTEED IT MAN YOU KNOW GUARANTEES ARE ALWAY S RIGHT
Who guranteed it?

you did

Bins wrote:
In post 265, heuristically_alone wrote:@Zach, are you mafia?
This is bugging me.
Let me crack the case. He was trying to look town.

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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:25 am

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In post 897, Zachstralkita wrote:Also that's a pretty ballsy and stupid move. He directly asked the mod to confirm it and you'd imply he's gambiting, Dunn?
And yet another example of why Dunn is scum
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:27 am

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In post 921, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 897, Zachstralkita wrote:Also that's a pretty ballsy and stupid move. He directly asked the mod to confirm it and you'd imply he's gambiting, Dunn?
And yet another example of why Dunn is scum

Please quote where I implied zakk was gambiting or lying about not recieving a role.
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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:27 am

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In post 910, Dunnstral wrote:We need zachstral in here to tell us zakk is town while zakk does nothing :)
Cmon bro he didn't have a role pm. There no way this post comes from town. Criticizing a player for not doing anything when he didn't even have a role pm is just a cheap shot.
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:28 am

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Eh, I actually like Zach's stuff right before the hammer.

p-edit - I'M NOT DONE CHILL.

I'd say right now scum is in zakk > xyzzx, and maybe Jaack (if not xy). I'd say I lean strongly towards zakk and xy. I still haven't looked at Jaack before the lynch.
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:29 am

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In post 892, Dunnstral wrote:So you're argueing without even knowing your role? So your argument means nothing either way and you're ignorable. Also really slimy tactic to pull too
In post 893, Dunnstral wrote:Any chance of me thinking you're town is gone now
These imply you think he's gambiting especially the second one. You owe the man a fucking apology and you need to stfu and let him catch up.
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