Mini 1787: Peruvian Nightclub Mafia (Game End!)

[zakk]

it was moderately confusing before having a Zach and a Jaack and a Jake; now we have a Zakk, too.

I'm Zaack from State Farm, get it right pls thx

[zakk]

ayo zakk what's goin on

let me just get one thing clear im gonna assume seniority on the basis of my name has an H opposed to a K


thank you for your time

if by my time you mean the 3 years longer I've been on the site than you, then ok

i am fine with juniority though

[zakk]

ayo zakk what's goin on

let me just get one thing clear im gonna assume seniority on the basis of my name has an H opposed to a K


thank you for your time

if by my time you mean the 3 years longer I've been on the site than you, then ok

i am fine with juniority though

time is of no importance sir, it's the letters that matter


the letters

lol i like you


and guys i'm 100% town i promise, stop voting me

[zakk]

Will be catching up tonight. Heading out for a wedding now. Thanks for your patience. As is in my sig, weekends are cray for me, so I have to be V/LA

[zakk]

Look if you guys lynch me it's just another day lost for town and I'm not down to be mislynched so if there's really nothing else to talk about while I have a chance to catch up after replacing in, then that means you guys are really being run by scum and I should just replace out and get somebody who actually has time to devote to this game right away

[zakk]

I replaced it as a favor but I'm not going to just replace into this slot and roll over for a mislynch immediately because you fuckers are lazy

When someone else today, and then you can come back to me later after I've had some time to read and contribute. It's pretty simple really

[zakk]

Lynch* someone else today, not "when"

Idk. Autocorrect. I'm on the shitter in the bathroom at the wedding I'm stuck at. Don't be assholes

[zakk]

Idk I saw a lot of votes

I'm not tryna replace in and get mislynched before I even read this shit

Now everyone get the fuck off and wait for me to say shit later

[zakk]

Tyler you're a tool

[zakk]

And there's like one vote on another person and I haven't even read yet or posted any content yet so why the fuck are there three votes on me

[zakk]

Lazy ass town play, or opportunistic scum, that's what it is

[zakk]

...

i might have actually, that's the best part. I don't even know yet. I'm just mad at being wagoner before I read, tbh

@mod: you never sent me floofs role pm. Please confirm in thread that up until now I've had no idea what my role or alignment is.

I'll be back tonight. I expect a) no wagon on me, and b) a role pm. Lol

[zakk]

Hahahahhahaha for real tho

[zakk]

got hobbes role PM. i'm town.

was able to read the first few pages adn probably will skim the rest for important stuff. here's my notes:

mini 1787 peruvian nightclub

first post (3) by zachstralkita seems town

dunnstral and jaack voted H_A-scum right away, interesting. scummy?

xyzzy 7 sounds fabricated and scummy

jake from state farm 8 sounds good/town

jaack trying to cast actual suspicion in 13 already? for dumb reasons? scummy

dunnstral 14 also casting actual suspicion and seems scummy

- oh, mafia has daytalk. one of them was probably egging the other on to egg me on, and then they probably conferred about vocally backtracking/crucified me for posting without a role PM

- xyzzy and jaack seem scummiest after p1, zachstralk seems town

- good to know h_a was scum and iraonavp was town over my d1 reread. it shaped my thoughts quite a bit.

bins 23 seems town
zach 25 seems town

dunnstral scums it up on p2... very cheeky. xyzzy asking 34 is kinda like setting up for cheekiness + distancing by way of "not distancing"

tyler 50 i like

keyser 55 seems town

jaack 66 takes the whole xyzzy / dunnstral thing far too seriously methinks. we'll see how that pans out
then he votes known town (iraonavp)

jaack 68 wants to know why zachstralka likes tyler the creator. if that's scum wanting to know why town townreads town, that'd be fantastic.

zachstralka is hella too weird in 70 to be scum. very low on my scum list.

tool 71 seems oddly calculated. 74 clears it up though. especially the "dunn is my only townlean" part

dunnstral 78 feels like a fate alt/copycat trying to pretend he's better than he actually is and super egotistical "Oh yea now we've got that reverse bandwagon where everyone says they townread me to blend in instead" lmao get the fuck over yourself

also dunn 78 says he likes tyler for "looking at" xyzzy -- let's see if he stays consistent on that

keyzersoze 79 arguing that robert24s intro post was null instead of weird seems more townie than scummy. that's a really weak defense, scum usually try to go for something more solid than that, unless they're just trying to post content, and KS has already posted enough content to not be considered scummy at this point -- so townpoints to him for this

dunn's 82 seems townie

KS 83 reply seems ... idk i can never trust denzel washington after training day, i wish if he was town he picked another gif

dunn 85 is the most ridiculous kind of filler... zachstralka's reply in 87 is possibly even worse

jaack 88 is the "let me tell you about my playstyle" scumtell -- scum points

i hate that xyzzy's 89 is basically exactly the kind of post this is. and he's got the same top townread as i do at this point. ugh. that puts me in a bit of a pickle bc xyzzy is my biggest scumread here. oh well. 36 pages to go, we'll see what happens upon further skimming. he's moved up a slot for this. town points.

dunn 91 to jaack is !!!! hell yes. good. town points.

actually i'm gonna end this post now. i have another game to read as well and 4 pages of deep dive is enough for now.

my reads (towniest at top):

hobbez

floof

Zakk (heyoooo)
Tyler the Creator
Keyser Söze
Zachstralkita
Jake from State Farm
toolenduso
Robert2424
Bins
Dunnstral
xyzzy
Jaack

vote: jaack

idk if i'm interested in an xyzzy lynch atm even though it's the biggest that's not mine

Suddenly everyone is fine with lynching xyzzy

Even though floof/zakk has literally done nothing to warrant attention being taken away from themselves

loooool. scumplaining much?


dunn, what's your current opinion of jaack?

[zakk]

idk what the deadline is i'm about to check but if this game's got a bit to go, i have something else to catch up on atm too (replaced into too many games at once)

[zakk]

I voted for Robert because he was the largest wagon.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Keyser is mafia but don't have anything to back that up

Same.

VOTE: Keyser Söze

Mafia can't be this dumb, this guys town

What?

I'm town-aligned, but how are my posts dumb?

You're just sheeping onto bandwagons and you saying "same" and voting Keyser was comical

if dunn and keyser are scum together, this exchange makes a LOT of sense

plus, so does the iraonavp kill.

[zakk]

vote:iraonavp

Hey bud that's a town you're voting for

What do you think about the things I've said recently? About jaack and iraonavp

this seems a little too sure to be believable

what had iraonavp done at this point to make dunn believe he was town? saying "same" and voting keyser soze. that was it. and suddenly he was "too dumb to be scum" and he was getting defended by dunn

loooool

[zakk]

lmfao i just iso'd the mod and looked at the votecounts and the one thing that stood out to me was that FLOOF WAS ON THE HEUR WAGON THE ENTIRE DAY IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY SINGLE VOTE COUNT, AND YOU GUYS THINK HE'S SCUM BECAUSE WHY?

LOL


p-edit: oh.
well there's that too. hahaha

[zakk]

so dunn. are you town? catch me up on the game. what's important stuff that will take me a while to get to, that i would be better served knowing BEFORE i read the game?

[zakk]

clearly they're incomplete reads. that's after 4 pages

and me starting a counter-wagon on jaack (which was a d1 wagon, so clearly there was interest) will give information on jaack vs xyzzy

[zakk]

tbh i was about to be kinda mad if i replaced into a scum slot under pressure with my scumbuddy lynched d1. that woulda been shitty af. lol

[zakk]

Con mucho gusto

LOL

[zakk]

tbh i only replaced into this game because zulfy asked me and he is a fellow z person

[zakk]

All I know is that scum is playing really well right now effort-wise! Good job, guys! I am quite impressed!

what do you mean by this?

who do you think is scum? quick summary of who, and why.

[zakk]

...weren't you going to talk about your reads or something

I keep looking back at ISO's and changing my mind about how I feel about posts and stuff.

I can post a readslist and it would look like:

"Oh, so ok this person has made a few posts that sort of bugged me... but then again they look pretty town because of this... but their position on this is like blah."
"Oh, so ok this person gives me super good vibes cause... yeah... but then... fuck... I'm paranoid that in reality they're... ya..."

I feel like most of my weight right now relies on my gut. Which feels like I'm reverting back to my old ways in playing mafia... in which I'm usually wrong about stuff. I'm just really nervous about my reads. Like I feel I could be labelling someone as town right now who really hasn't done anything town, but rather just hasn't given me "bad vibes" or maybe even given me "good vibes" but other than that that's it. Like my townread on you (Dunn) is completely based off of vibes rn and the fact that I think you've been pretty much given off a really town impression but a lot of people are disagreeing so I get worried that I'm not seeing somthing cause my gut is telling me one thing, right? And another example I'm pretty much considering Tyler as town right now (even though I didn't like his entry posts) pretty much cause every time he says something I'm like "yeah I can agree with that" or "hey I was going to say that" or even because I don't think scum has a reason to give a townread on me but he did - but is that good enough? Am I still paranoid? Yeah? so idk.

These are all things going through my head right now. My most confident townread right now is Keyser but that could still be completely wrong.

you should just sheep me, whatever i'm doing, that's probably a good idea

[zakk]

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-05-20 10:00:00)

We have tons of time, actually more than I thought. Way more actually, just a reminder of the deadline

welp

bye

i'll be back in a couple days when jaack is lynched

yw for finding scum

[zakk]

this oughta be rich. lol

[zakk]

heuristically_alone and egg being in those posts gives me such a headache

i wish you could have different skins for different games so you wouldn't get so confused on playing with the same players over and over

[zakk]

you guys trying to prove that my predecessor was scum when i clearly already know the answer to that question. that will be rich indeed

[zakk]

K analysis.

[... other stuff]

that was a great read. that's the kind of stuff i would like to read more of.
i didn't know HA claimed doc or Robert claimed macho townie before

[zakk]

---this is who we're left with---

xyzzy
Zakk
Jaack

ooooo let's lynch these three! dead serious
i'm perfectly fine with sacrificing myself for my top 2 scumreads dying

lol

[zakk]

I feel like over the course of night one I lost track of a lot of what's happened in this game, and I really need to do a more comprehensive reread of day 2 so far, because I've not had time to go back and do any extensive rereading. basically, though, I got the sense during night one that I had probably been pushing too hard in directions where there was likely going to be little movement, and not really focusing as much on the topics everyone else was discussing during day one, and I've been relying too heavily on which people I feel are contributing the most to the game as a general sign of who's scum and who's not. partially that's just because I don't fully trust my own intuition yet--I'm still in that phase of feeling like I'm rusty at all of this. I think it's reasonable to be suspicious of me coming out of the gate day two basically just losing any momentum and not really having any strong opinions--I just didn't really trust my gut at that point in time, and that's what I was trying to express.

I'm feeling better about Bins now. I'm still feeling fairly confident that Jaack is town and am puzzled by the belief otherwise. I really don't like zakk's most recent post (1081) at all. I definitely think Dunnstral's townie claim (which I asked about in 993) is a fairly crucial piece of information given his response to my question about it in 994, and I'm really curious what other people think about it--the way he framed the assertion that Robert is town seems to imply that he has information that a townie wouldn't normally have access to (and isn't merely very confident of it). I'm especially curious what Robert thinks about that.

I'm going to do some rereading and hopefully write some words about that soon.

you seem to be a relic from the bygone mafiascum era where writing two paragraphs and mentioning things meant someone was town, or at least, should be taken seriously enough to not immediately lynch

i'm probably going to lose my patience with you

I definitely think Dunnstral's townie claim (which I asked about in 993) is a fairly crucial piece of information given his response to my question about it in 994, and I'm really curious what other people think about it

I am going to deliberately not weigh in on this and suggest that everybody else do the same.

this is an interesting move. i'm up for it

i think you're town this game toolenduso

[zakk]

lemme read up before we lynch anything please

K MAN DID I ASK YOU THERE MIGHT BE MORE THAN THAT

nope that was it

---this is who we're left with---

xyzzy
Zakk
Jaack

ooooo let's lynch these three! dead serious
i'm perfectly fine with sacrificing myself for my top 2 scumreads dying

lol

zakk town flip inbound.

can you stop white knighting me, i can white knight myself perfectly well thannnnnk you

[zakk]

i feel like people are making posts but we aren't actually getting anywhere

xyzzy why shouldn't i vote you?

[zakk]

i feel like people are making posts but we aren't actually getting anywhere

That's because everyone is waffling around and Zach's mini-game is to shut down all discussion on who mafia could be

you sound really, really scummy here, with the whole "discussion on who mafia could be" bit

i think you're scum




i'm interested in lynching:

dunnstral
xyzzy
jaack

in no particular order

in the interest of moving the game forward:

vote: xyzzy

i'm impatient

[zakk]

not sure if trolling dot jpg

[zakk]

basically that doesn't sound like something a townie would say

[zakk]

okay, so, xyzzy's vote is survivalistic scum, but tyler and dunnstral you don't have that excuse, so why are you voting me? and why aren't you voting xyzzy?

[zakk]

That's not scumplaining that's a legitimate question

[zakk]

dunn pls answer my question

[zakk]

What do you think of the possibility that zakk and xyzzy aren't both mafia at this point? (Meaning one is town)

100% odds that at least one of us are town

[zakk]

It was actually more directed at Tyler but your input is valuable as well

I am also not particularly confident that this town, with all of its fractures, has managed to push two wagons on scum D2 and none on anyone else.

No worries, Jake, Zach, and Zakk would/have all voted me so there's that other wagon

It's not a wagon in my mind unless there's a reasonable chance of a person getting lynched.

It's not a wagon in my mind unless there's a reasonable chance of a person getting lynched.

SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT

are we

really

dignifying the fact that dunnstral is using potential votes on potential wagons as a rebuttal to jaack's postulation that town has really likely not pushed two scum wagons on d2 with a response?

that's gotta be the most stupid thing i've heard today





ready to vote dunnstral at any point if we can get a wagon swing. 100% serious

[zakk]

Got prodded.

See Dunn isn't lynchhed. Not sure why

join me

let's do it

Dunn where did the out of the blue vote for ha come from day one? You never explained it

can't wait until i get here in the thread

[zakk]

If he's town his play is atrocious imo.

I will lynch you.
Grr.

beetlejuice rule

was obviously skimming the thread looking for mentions of "bins" and found one and posted

It's actually funny because all the townpoints I was giving you are now going to Dunn because I realized I might have the wrong idea.

then aCTUALLY threatens jake with "you're losing townpoints" in response

like whoa. this is scum too

[zakk]

I know he's missing other people, but still. I find it odd that he'd omit Dunn, the person with 10000 posts this game.

meaning you think dunni s scum or town?

[zakk]

with every post JFSF becomes a stronger town read
with every post Dunn becomes a stronger scum read

unvote; vote: Dunnstral

i'm very very okay with this wagon

[zakk]

p-edits. yes. to both.

[zakk]

if jake is scum i'll eat a hat

and if dunn is town i'll shit it back out again

[zakk]

Nobody ever said Jake was scum

He's just comically wrong

bins said he's willing to vote jake:

they both havent said things regarding the recent wagons

and i think my keyser read needs that and i trust tool's input a lot

i already discussed the three people i'd be willing to vote (i'd be willing to vote jake now too TBH b/c my big reason for not voting him is gone) so i don't see the harm in waiting on them to finalize which one

so that's a "potential" wagon



this game

[zakk]

happy birthday bins

lol xyzzy 1173 is a joke if you didn't catch it. perhaps you're the one who's "not paying attention or is poorly receiving the entire flow of the game"

[zakk]

i'm getting very bored of this game and i haven't even finished reading it.

dunn is like 95.8% noise (i.e. worse than animorpherv1)

[zakk]

brb replacing out cause this is stupid

[zakk]

i don't have the patience for this at all, plus not having my role pm was moonbeams

bye