Mini 1774: Formation of America's Mafiascum - Perfect Town W

[Klingoncelt]

807 was scum-scum interactions too, especially given Persivul voted Klingoncelt before Firebringer. (Speaking of: the Klingoncelt vote reads as distancing, as he never continues the push; it's a throwaway vote whenever he makes it, similar to how SirCakez's Persivul vote was a throwaway vote that was quickly retracted.)

Okay, now you're tripping balls.

No way would you post such bullshit as Town, guy. That's the worst load of batshit I've seen this side of a Trump rally.

VOTE: Ranger

[Firebringer]

Kling, you are looking very desperate here. Just like yesterday.
It might just be Kling and Persivul.

[Persivul]

VOTE: Klingoncelt.

As of 41.

I am waiting until you reach a point I want to talk about, then you can tell me if you still think that is a good lynch order.

Whatever that point was, I've reached it.

My reads haven't changed. It honestly doesn't matter which of {Klingoncelt, Persivul} we lynch first; both are scum. So, more or less, my order remains unchanged, although I'm currently voting Klingoncelt because the wagon there is larger.

Between beeboy's multiple lies about busing and your OMGUS on me and itlepip I was cool with you as scum, but when I went to bed last night, one thing was bothering me: scum!Ranger would want to discredit me, but she wouldn't want to lynch me. Rather, she would NK me and claim that scum were framing her if pressured on it. Now you've removed that doubt.

Town!Ranger would push me here. There's over 11 days left in phase, there's only two votes on kling, and she's been wagoned before. It makes no sense for town to come in, make as many posts on me as you did, but then just drop the push before it has time to take off.

[Persivul]

Kling, you are looking very desperate here. Just like yesterday.
It might just be Kling and Persivul.

Cool, vote me.

[Persivul]

Wow, a lot of shit going on and no one has an opinion.

[Alchemist21]

Btw Ranger, at this point it's ok if you don't get an answer on what Beeboy voted, as at worst it would have tied the vote with Taxation and I would have had to assume Taxation won through RNG.

For people who were wondering why I was interested in the protest votes, I think No Quartering was something Town could have voted for but scum would have never voted for, and was hoping that scum players would claim voting for it for towncred. I was hoping that would lead to a discrepency between the claimed protests and what actually won, and we could have a greatly reduced lynchpool where we knew there was a false claim.

Unfortunately that didn't happen. In retrospect I probably should have suggested scum wouldn't vote no quartering when I first asked for claims to incentivize scum to lie. At least now I can reasonably say Pip is Town because of this.

What did everyone vote for?

I was gonna answer this, but Nahdia's role stuff could be inferred from telling this, so I'm not going to. I've already posted any relevant details you need to know.

[Firebringer]

Kling, you are looking very desperate here. Just like yesterday.
It might just be Kling and Persivul.

Cool, vote me.

I probably will:
VOTE: Persivul

DIE SCUM!

[Dierfire]

@Klingoncelt

... position on the Window Attack wagon...

I'd appreciate it if everyone would read my sig.

Note that I'm in bed asleep while most of you are posting.

That means that I claim at L-1/ post/ vote on other wagons in the middle of the fucking night. After everyone else is long gone.
You know how often I go to a game I'm in, ready to post and I find it locked because someone's been lynched while I was offline?
Besides that, position on wagons is no longer alignment indicative. Scum have changed their tactics since the 2014 model.

I'm not sure how your sleep schedule is relevant to your vote on Window Attack (468). You were awake then, right?

[itlepip]

Btw if Peri just does another 1 flipflop I'm autovoting.

[Persivul]

It's pers - and I thought you said that my flip on beeboy was the towniest thing I've done...

[itlepip]

it was, but flipping back again is super bad and makes your previous worse. The key is that I don't have any faith that you actually have reads on a slot that I am pretty sure is scum. You jumping around wagons based on how the game is progressing isn't towny.

[Persivul]

it was,

OK.

but flipping back again is super bad and makes your previous worse.

OK, but I haven't given any signals that I'm doing that, so I don't see why you're bringing it up. I know that this isn't distancing, but don't be surprised if Ranger makes that charge.

The key is that I don't have any faith that you actually have reads on a slot that I am pretty sure is scum. You jumping around wagons based on how the game is progressing isn't towny.

Wagons are indeed townie. Lynching scum is townie. If I were scum I would have been all over that WA CW.

[Persivul]

BTW, you should check your own slot's D1 play. On the WA wagon most of the day, called one cakez post bad and jumped on the wagon. Is that jumping wagons based on how the game is progressing?

[Ranger]

Umm... that's a BBMolla post?

Yes, but it's a BBMolla post about you.

[Ranger]

Kling, you are looking very desperate here. Just like yesterday.
It might just be Kling and Persivul.

It is.

scum!Ranger would want to discredit me, but she wouldn't want to lynch me. Rather, she would NK me and claim that scum were framing her if pressured on it.

Yeah this has absolutely zero basis in fact at all; Persivul is literally making stuff up.

Town!Ranger would push me here. There's over 11 days left in phase, there's only two votes on kling, and she's been wagoned before. It makes no sense for town to come in, make as many posts on me as you did, but then just drop the push before it has time to take off.

I have made my stance crystal clear.

I will vote whichever of you two has more votes.

That is currently Klingoncelt.

I will switch back if it becomes you.

BTW, you should check your own slot's D1 play. On the WA wagon most of the day, called one cakez post bad and jumped on the wagon. Is that jumping wagons based on how the game is progressing?

Oh, the irony.

So remember that behavior I just said was a BS accusation?

scum!Ranger would want to discredit me, but she wouldn't want to lynch me. Rather, she would NK me and claim that scum were framing her if pressured on it.

Guess what he's doing to itlepip?

[itlepip]

it was,

OK.

but flipping back again is super bad and makes your previous worse.

OK, but I haven't given any signals that I'm doing that, so I don't see why you're bringing it up. I know that this isn't distancing, but don't be surprised if Ranger makes that charge.

Why would Ranger accuse you of distancing from herself? If anyone is going to make that accusation it would be me which I'm doing right now. I think you are debating whether or not to try to win in 5p or 3p and switching on your partner depending on which one.

The key is that I don't have any faith that you actually have reads on a slot that I am pretty sure is scum. You jumping around wagons based on how the game is progressing isn't towny.

Wagons are indeed townie. Lynching scum is townie. If I were scum I would have been all over that WA CW.

How could you ever expect me to believe that just making wagons is towny or that you would never have bussed d1...

BTW, you should check your own slot's D1 play. On the WA wagon most of the day, called one cakez post bad and jumped on the wagon. Is that jumping wagons based on how the game is progressing?

I actually didn't read molla posts so I have no idea what you are talking about.

[Firebringer]

So wagon on Persivul?
Come on guys. This isn't hard.
We have a big town bloc going do we not?

[Suzune]

Honestly, at this point I feel good about my vote from yesterday.

VOTE: Kling

[Firebringer]

Ugh, fine we will lynch Kling.
But I still want her to be town.
VOTE: Klingoncelt

Sorry Kling.

[itlepip]

Alright, was that L-1? If that was the hammer Fire we are going to have words.

[Klingoncelt]

Kling, you are looking very desperate here. Just like yesterday.
It might just be Kling and Persivul.

No, not desperate, just unbelievably tired.

And you can't say that Ranger's theory sounds rational. No way.

[Klingoncelt]

Btw Ranger, at this point it's ok if you don't get an answer on what Beeboy voted, as at worst it would have tied the vote with Taxation and I would have had to assume Taxation won through RNG.

For people who were wondering why I was interested in the protest votes, I think No Quartering was something Town could have voted for but scum would have never voted for, and was hoping that scum players would claim voting for it for towncred. I was hoping that would lead to a discrepency between the claimed protests and what actually won, and we could have a greatly reduced lynchpool where we knew there was a false claim.

Unfortunately that didn't happen. In retrospect I probably should have suggested scum wouldn't vote no quartering when I first asked for claims to incentivize scum to lie. At least now I can reasonably say Pip is Town because of this.

What did everyone vote for?

I was gonna answer this, but Nahdia's role stuff could be inferred from telling this, so I'm not going to. I've already posted any relevant details you need to know.

I was hoping for a simple list instead of a series of replies to sort through, that's all.

I'm genuinely uninterested in roles right now.

[Klingoncelt]

@Klingoncelt

... position on the Window Attack wagon...

I'd appreciate it if everyone would read my sig.

Note that I'm in bed asleep while most of you are posting.

That means that I claim at L-1/ post/ vote on other wagons in the middle of the fucking night. After everyone else is long gone.
You know how often I go to a game I'm in, ready to post and I find it locked because someone's been lynched while I was offline?
Besides that, position on wagons is no longer alignment indicative. Scum have changed their tactics since the 2014 model.

I'm not sure how your sleep schedule is relevant to your vote on Window Attack (468). You were awake then, right?

Sir Cakes was at L-2 at midnight on March 21. He was hammered at 6:24pm. I wasn't here during those hours. My last post was on Sunday the 20th at 10:01pm eastern. (I was in several other games at the time, plus R/L Spring Break stuff.)

[Klingoncelt]

Ugh, fine we will lynch Kling.
But I still want her to be town.
VOTE: Klingoncelt

Sorry Kling.

Load of wank.

[Dierfire]

Sir Cakes was at L-2 at midnight on March 21. He was hammered at 6:24pm. I wasn't here during those hours. My last post was on Sunday the 20th at 10:01pm eastern. (I was in several other games at the time, plus R/L Spring Break stuff.)

Right, but what was special about those hours? You could have voted for him earlier than that!