Mini 1783: GTA 2 Mafia (GaME OVAH)

[A Real Scourge]

Dom's self vote is a subconscious scum claimVOTE: dom

actually better than the Black Star wagon tbh!

[A Real Scourge]

VOTE: The Banterlords

[A Real Scourge]

UNVOTE: blackstar
VOTE: Dragonknight

ok I think you're town. But for future reference getting out of RVS is good because then discussion is generated. Like now I have a town read on you and a scum read on ds / fire.

see now i don't see the reason for your townread to come so easily for him. what about him reasserting what he'd already said made him town when it didn't before?

[A Real Scourge]

If you think there might be something to it - do you think it's worth voting/wagoning?

If not, do you have a better option?

you should explain in your own words why it was/is a good wagon. you ask a lot of nice questions and while i should be the last person to scumread you for that, i still wanna know why you think these are all important to ask!

[A Real Scourge]

UNVOTE: blackstar
VOTE: Dragonknight

ok I think you're town. But for future reference getting out of RVS is good because then discussion is generated. Like now I have a town read on you and a scum read on ds / fire.

Is it because hydra dissonance? Jeez, Dwlee, I knew you sucked at scum hunting but this is ridiculous.

-

THE

Diamond Sentinel

you assumed it was because of a reason you disagreed with, then you discredit him based on that assumption? it's like you were waiting for someone to call you out on the dissonance, then jumped the gun!

[A Real Scourge]

Guys, guys, guys, we have an announcment. We are an ascetic. Had to claim so people wouldn't lose time using powers on us in the night

Did you tell us this because you thought that not hiding it would make you seem more like town?

i actually thought this exact thing. in part cause of the explanation that shouldn't have needed to be there.

[A Real Scourge]

Guys, guys, guys, we have an announcment. We are an ascetic. Had to claim so people wouldn't lose time using powers on us in the night

Did you tell us this because you thought that not hiding it would make you seem more like town?

Did you read the post? Because the answer is very explicitly in there.

-Snow

This is Mafia. Saying things doesn't necessarily make it true.

Makes sense.

-Snow (previous post is mine too)

...really?

[A Real Scourge]

wha? ya it is. that's clearly 'i'm voting BlackStar because they unvoted'! i really don't like this convo at all but ya.

[A Real Scourge]

VOTE: Dragonknight
They're going for hydra dissonance way too early and it looks fake as shit. I don't believe for a moment those last posts weren't completly discussed before making them.

^Bearbert D

consdering hydra dissonance is considered a scumtell.. why would they purposely try to fake it? (really badly)

[A Real Scourge]

VOTE: Dragonknight
They're going for hydra dissonance way too early and it looks fake as shit. I don't believe for a moment those last posts weren't completly discussed before making them.

^Bearbert D

consdering hydra dissonance is considered a scumtell.. why would they purposely try to fake it? (really badly)

Is it? I mean, look at Drunk Pirates from SaGa. That

terrible

hydra was all about hydra dissonance. Hmm, well, it's not our fault we can't agree.

have i played with you before? how'd u know i read Saga? i don't think this has anything to do with the game, i'm just curious.

[A Real Scourge]

BlackStar is definitely town! and Magna is weirdly aggressive about every point he makes. not sure on alignment yet.
also, you guys have gotta get into the habit of trimming down large quotes when you're only responding to one little thing in them! this thread is ugly.

either way, you guys should unvote on policy.

[A Real Scourge]

i like Polar Vortex more, too. i thought their claim was overexplanatory (could have just said 'i'm ascetic' and continued on) but its fine

[A Real Scourge]

Going to read up tomorrow

I have BBT as scum so far

why?

[A Real Scourge]

Going to read up tomorrow

I have BBT as scum so far

why?

He plays like a person I know when they're scum

that's a bad reason. people play differently.

[A Real Scourge]

on actually looking at BBT, tho, im not sure if i like it either. i don't think someone's play should be compared to a different players scumplay for reading them, but the fact that he did makes him look town to me. it's the kind of 'not quite there' logic that looks more town than scum to me.

[A Real Scourge]

i'm glad you asked cause that last post jumped between thoughts so quickly i barely understand it!

[A Real Scourge]

on actually looking at BBT, tho, im not sure if i like him either. he still asks a lot more questions than i feel is necessary and i think he's concentrating far too much on BlackStar's unvote, and not on the other apsects of his play, or other players.

as for PhantomCobalt

: i don't think someone's play should be compared to a different players scumplay for reading them, but the fact that he did makes him look town to me. it's the kind of 'not quite there' logic that looks more town than scum to me.

[A Real Scourge]

above is an EBWOP

[A Real Scourge]

actually ya i could go for that lynch!

[A Real Scourge]

i wanna see what BBT's catchup looks like, tho.
i think DK is town too.

[A Real Scourge]

Yup that's better.
Btw, I'm an alt.

Blackstar, why the vote for Polar?

Who of DK made 252?

It is a bad play to keep voting an uncounter-claimed Cop Day 1. Even if their play was scumtastic and filled with nothing but insulting and non-scum hunting posting.

I would like fro you to address my earlier point about this being role-madness.

Town: ARS, CoH.
Some thoughts on people that are heavily dependent on flips. I will not elaborate on this before Day 2 because I'm ignoring all pre-flip associatives now and focus on making independent reads. Lets call them null.
Scummy: DK, Blackstar, Banter

No wait this is scum
VOTE: FA_Q2

we know it's role madness! i don't get how that's relevant? just because it's possible for a scum to have a cop-like role? when we're going entirely on DK's word, it doesn't matter if they're scum with a cop role or simply lying scum... none of that has any bearing on it. you don't lynch cop claims day 1 in role madness, you don't do it in normal games either!

[A Real Scourge]

i think i can word it better than i just did. DK claiming cop is null, and would be null in most setups. we still wanna hear the report.

I think Bantel/Dwlee's townread on Blackstar is like a shallow mudpool.

how so? i'm townreading BlackStar. what are the differences between our reads?

[A Real Scourge]

tbh i don't really get the FAQ2 wagon

[A Real Scourge]

because we were talking about lynching her?

[A Real Scourge]

polar vortex i don't get why you need much more of an explanation as to why jeanne is scummy? she's done no hunting, her claim was bad, she's been lurking, she only popped up after we started taking an interest in lynching her, blah blah blah.
your treatment of this wagon is really strange.

[A Real Scourge]

UNVOTE:
i think i was still voting banterlords.

[A Real Scourge]

no rule that says you gotta sign! for meta purposes some players like it but i don't really care tbh. it's not like i'd be able to read Firebringer off of meta!
also why is Jeanne suddenly not a lynch target now that she's being replaced for sparse inactivity? if it's as big of a scumtell as... DiamondSentinel??? says then shouldn't we be looking into that instead of just saying 'nah we won't lynch her'.
that said i think Masquerade is town.

[A Real Scourge]

i think i'll put a readslist out tonight and start pushing someone in earnest.
DK is also town btw

[A Real Scourge]

oh, so there actually was a rule. i'm wrong then. DK, sign your posts before shos kicks you in the pants.

[A Real Scourge]

so

you're

not going to worry about finding scum?

[A Real Scourge]

but sunday is MAFIA day! fuck church! or whatever it is people do on sunday.

[A Real Scourge]

don't have time to get caught up with this right now. sorry guys! i'll be here tomorrow.
also don't have an opinion on Ranger yet. she's actively catching up, no need to lynch her until she's done with it.

preview: well actually now that you say that, she also said my play was similar to Magna's hence the scumread. i don't really understand it, was a bit vague, but still waiting for her to be caught up (and for me to be, properly) before i get into it.

[A Real Scourge]

Ranger's hit the nail on the head with my being a bit disengaged rn. btw i've only read this page 23, not the ones before it.
but i don't appreciate it when my tone is called fake! it's happened in two games before this one and it's just a bit unnecessary. i've definitely not been as engaged or helpful as i should or want to be, but why are people always picking at my tone? i used exclamation marks! it's just a thing i do. even when i'm annoyed at the game. and i stand by what i said too, this thread

is

kinda ugly, what with the hydras quoting themselves to sign and the one-line responses to large quote trains. that you included that in your otherwise fine case is annoying me.

also i don't really see your BBT case as being particularly alignment indicative... only the parts regarding his voting patterns really have any meat to them. not really onboard with BBT scum so it's fine tho.

i'm regretting not voting jeanne, tho. could have avoided this. i didn't really think about it, i don't feel attached to mafia rn.

[A Real Scourge]

i'm going to bed. i hope i feel up to not being a lazy sack in the morning!

oh, Ranger, a lot of your read on BBT has to do with how he feels about BlackStar. what if BlackStar is town? that's the impression i got and

still

the impression i'm getting. or, was getting, since i'm not caught up from yesterday. but yeah.

[A Real Scourge]

FA, why aren't you reading my girly self as scummy? what makes me town to you?
i'm catching up now. i feel the will in my veins to fight fight fight

[A Real Scourge]

^^^ that reminds me that everyone should totally

not

visit me N1. including scum.
Ircher, i remember glancing and seeing that you're someone's alt? you should pick up that slip!

[A Real Scourge]

oh. i saw him say you were his alt, but i didn't see you say 'liar' back until i checked. nvm then