Mini 1774: Formation of America's Mafiascum - Perfect Town W

[itlepip]

I will say first off that Beeboy when town generally gives off a really strong town vibe. His scum play isn’t bad at all, and he isn’t obvious or anything, but he doesn’t level as town so if you are dealing with Beeboy and there aren’t those posts which are complaining about something that makes a town player in that situation annoyed or something like that, then there is a good chance that Beeboy is scum.
In my view none of his posts have the strong town mentality that I expect from town Beeboy, so I think he is scum. I’ll try to address some of the higher content posts.

@Beeboy, I don't trust you at all. Shiro can accept you with open arms but I consider you in my top 3 scum right now.

I c then I can vote Cakes without it being a scum claim.

VOTE: Sircakes

He is trying to scum paint rather than scum hunt.

Okay, so at this point in the game Cakez has been under pressure and is starting to look reasonably likely to be lynched. Beeboy notices that Cakez is distancing from him at this point and busses Cakez. “I can vote cakez without it being scum’ is really awkward and I don’t understand why town would ever say that.

@Beeboy, I don't trust you at all. Shiro can accept you with open arms but I consider you in my top 3 scum right now.

I c then I can vote Cakes without it being a scum claim.

VOTE: Sircakes

He is trying to scum paint rather than scum hunt.

And you are just sheeping wagons.
How are you scum hunting?

I have been pressuring Cakes scum for awhile. I tried to pressure Kill earlier before anyone else did so it couldn't have been a sheep.
I know this isn't my top town game but I wouldn't say I am blindly sheeping.

I am also not pulling bs arguments to justify my reads.

I have been pressuring cakez awhile is just lieing. The reason Bboy remembers it that way is because any even slightly negative interaction with your partners feels like bussing even when it for town doesn’t count as ‘putting pressure’.

This is where I am sitting I have no strong town reads.
{beeboy}
{Shiro, Klingoncelt, Firebringer, Alchemist21}
{Suzune, Nosferatu, Dierfire}
{Killthestory, Persivul, Window Attack, BBmolla}
{SirCakez}

Now that he is scumreading actual scum now he creates a readlist and is the first time he is really confident in a scumread this game. Most of his votes were naked with no pressure but now suddenly this is obvious scum that gets its own tier all by itself.

Lol this is bull. You didn't even mention a scumread in me until I voted you. This is definitely scum.

My bad I though you where scum from 101 though.

Read 101 and tell me it actually represents a scumread cause I don’t believe it. Also in the 300 posts between 101 and 438 bboy just happens to never mention that he is scumreading cakez which happens to be the scum lynch that day.

Cakes is at l-2 but 2 people can vote.

Again really laying on thick his scumread on cakez.

If you are implying I am scum you should vote me (imo a scum claim if you legit reread day 1 I am obv town), also that would make your reads 0/2 which I guess is ok since mislynching is playing for your wincon.

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One of the best ways to tell is something is bussing is whether or not the busser tries to get towncred for the bus. Bboy is calling himself confTown for his d1 play which was mostly naked votes and null questions until he started bussing cakez. Obviously for him the fact that he voted on a scum wagon d1 means that he is confTown which is a scum mentality after a successful bus.

oh beeboy, clearly I was teasing you. Sorry if you missed it.

You are far from obvious town though.

Did you play borderlands 2?

Cakes never gave a good reason for me being scum day 1 for a reason.
He never tried getting me lynched beyond that for a reason.

I hard town read both my buddies when they where under pressure for a reason.

As players we don't bus and it is obv you should know that if you are really critically scum reading me right now.

Point from Bboy, the case from cakez on Bboy was super weak and didn’t make much sense. Saying “I don’t bus” is bad in general and especially bad given that I’ve been scum with Bboy and he counterclaimed me and we had a 1v1 set up. This isn’t factually true.

That is a catch 22. There is a mafia term for what I am looking for but I do not know it. Your line about how scum can have town reads proving I am scum is some kind f bad debating catch. What you said is the truth that it is easy for scum to have town reads, but that is irrelevant to the situation between us.

I had to google what catch 22 was but I learned a new buzz phrase to use when I roll scum like you in this game which is nice.

I never said it proved you where scum you are putting words into my mouth. If you keep writing a narrative to scum paint me you won't get very far which I guess is ok because ou aren't town. It also is relevant because you where defending your reads this game.

Why would you heart be broken? I do not understand.

You said you would need to apologize if I was town because you are being snarky.
I said that would break my heart D=

Again Bboy is really confident that he is town with play that d1 he called himself weak. I don’t think that town think that a scum lynch clears them as much as scum bussing their partners do, so I think this confidence is really scummy.

You may legitimately confuse me. Let's run through our conversation really slow because you are either terribly off track and looking for something to fork or missed the point a long time ago.

-I said that fire was town because scum would not make a risky move like that
-you claimed therefore I thought fire was being risky
-I claimed that it is not what I said. That the play would have been risky for scum.
-you again made the connection between risky townie and risky scum. Which I again refuted.

I didn't make the connection between risky townie and risky scummy.
Not sure if it can be interpreted that way but Fire would have made no risks as scum in that situation.

As a parallels:
-you called me scum.
I teased you and said to keep saying it
-you did
-I told you I was teasing you

>.> I don't know that this has to do with anything >.>
Just because I didn't know you where teasing me doesn't mean you need to rub it in D=

-you claimed I had two bad town reads

Where did I do this?

-I told you at least I had two good town reads and I was sure one of my scum reads was correct
-you said well it is easy for scum to have good town reads
-I said you put me in a nondisupte corner because you were correct but it did not make me scum
-you claimed you were not insinuating that
-but what you said told me you were making that connection, but you seemed offended I made ther connection

I wasn't making the connection but ok.

-you attempted to appeal to my emotions by said I would break your heart
-then attempted to use mets to explain why cakes would never bus
- I said I disagree
- you said you disagree.

I was teasing you, I don't need to appeal to scum's emotions.

On the same page?
Beeboy started it.
I am not fire's neighbor. Otherwise he would not have asked me in the topic about the mail.

Yes I did start it.

this is another spot where I expect bboy to produce something that is just obviously town. His quips are good natures but nothing represents a claer town mentality.

Suzune you are so lucky the last 2 times I tunneled someone exactly like this where they felt genuine but everything they where doing was scummy the person I was tunneling ended up being town.
Fun fact I also had exactly 1 person (town) ego post me to keep pushing, which is also similar here where pers made me feel better about this push.

But really suzune everything in my heart is telling me to push you right now it is just my mind that is holding me back.

giving himself an out for a town Suzune flip

To be fair As long as I keep hitting scum my other reads don't matter

Too many people prefer Shiro.
And anytime the majority agree on something, in mafia, they are WRONG!
Except maybe townreads...thats like 40/60 or something.

We have better shot at people we are like "I am not sure on"

VOTE: Diefire

If we find scum there is literally 1 scum buddy to defend that play right now. That rules doesn't apply right now.

VOTE: Shiro.

content is okay but now for the deadline waffling

VOTE: Kill

My first day 1 read was right

shrugs

VOTE: kling

just to satisfy you people

I'll lynch you Kill.


I am waiting for a shiro lynch imo

Let's lynch Shiro yo

No. Stop being blind beeboy. Can you answer what I said? Cause you didn't by saying ScumPosting.

I told you who I think is scum.

You where literally on the counter wagon to sir cakes.

Why is Klingon scum? I am not convinced right now.

Also Shiro isn't justifying his spot on the kling wagon.

kill is utterly useless and I can PL lynch him.

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This is the reaso. I'm not just jumping on any of the deadline wagons is that bboy is super opportunistically jumping between wagons.

[beeboy]

Geez... the timing of this sucks with that post but.

I feel sick and am representing this with a VLA tag.

@mod VLA D=

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Shiro

L-1

[itlepip]

Shiro consider this intent because I will hammer before deadline and get Bboy lynched tomorrow.

[Shiro]

I am vt and again I don't care much about getting lynched right now but remember

Per and Klingoncelt are the last two Scum

[Shiro]

Like at the very bloody least don't forget that because I am dead and hur dur nobody listens to the dead.

[Shiro]

I am givin and off chance as I said that scum is fire.

I could see per and fire tbh but don't hold me on it. I am confused on fire in this game. My gut says scum based on how he avoided to play along our agreement when it was unfavourable to him and he saw people were scumreading it.

Per could have voted him there as a soft bus.

Ittle beeboy is town and tou should shut up about it. Read cakes and his interactions. There is no fucking way he is scum. none.

Same with Nos I think.

Kill and Suzu were obvtowning but Suzu is always obvtowning as any alignment sooo yea. Still think she is town though.

Read BBmolla as town so there is that.

Alchemist could be scum if I am wrong on the rest. He is a much stronger player as town and there is no, not used to large games excuse thus time.

Kling can't be scum with fire though, I really doubt it so take that and make potential pairs with those four. Lynch the one with the most scum in pair, then PoE if they flip scum.

[Shiro]

Yea Klingoncelt and Pers
Or
Klingoncelt and Alchemist

That is where I am at.


Lynxh Klingoncelt and act accordingly based on what happens. Hopefully I am right.

[Shiro]

Yea that is about it

Lynch me now for all I care

Bye bye

[Firebringer]

I am givin and off chance as I said that scum is fire.

[Firebringer]

Yea that is about it

Lynch me now for all I care

Bye bye

Stop it, we aren't lynching you.

[itlepip]

VOTE: Shiro

[Shiro]

Nah you were and I was pretty sure you would.

All 3 of my potential scumreads are on me and it wasn't that hard to push it.

Fire if you are truly town. Tomorrow quote me on what I said. Don't let my death be in vain

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Shiro

You are going to pay for this.

[Shiro]

Cause I have seen it happen amd it annoying.

Ittle is town most likely fire

[Firebringer]

Nah you were and I was pretty sure you would.

All 3 of my potential scumreads are on me and it wasn't that hard to push it.

Fire if you are truly town. Tomorrow quote me on what I said. Don't let my death be in vain

I will try, but you are wrong about me, and I don't know about Kling....maybe pers? Ehhh.

[Firebringer]

Cause I have seen it happen amd it annoying.

Ittle is town most likely fire

>.>
Hopefully Suzune pops in before this thread is locked.
I need a target.

[Shiro]

Nah one scum on Widow wagon for sure and if not you it has to he kling.

I mean it could be Molla but kling is in that sweet spot and Molla was a townread of mine.

Kling is also bus averse which makes sense for her not to vote cakez

[Firebringer]

Ugh, I am sorry I broke up our Hydra team in this game >.>
I was just expecting more paranoia from you.

[Shiro]

Fire I got paranoid of you at lylo at the very end.

It was day 2 here

[Shiro]

Like XD That is kind of a big difference

[Firebringer]

Stop being mean Shiro!
Just because you were lynched doesn't mean you can say I am bad >.>
I already knew that

[Nosferatu]

wowie that was sudden

[White Fire]

Not really Nos. It was pretty apparent it was going that way

[Shiro]

Not really Nos. It was pretty apparent it was going that way

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