Mini 1766: SCP Foundation Mafia (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:42 am

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oh, right, i was asked why i targeted Flub. was basically a choice between FA, Rask, and Flub, and i wasn't gonna target the PGO.
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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:46 am

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shos why'd you target Flub with yer fruit vender?
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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:05 am

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In post 1663, Raskolnikov wrote:FA, we don't actually have confirmation of flub's role, and shos is probably 1 shot with his fruit vendor, with other abilities in there. At this point I think it's more likely than ARS having been ninja or something like that.
I'm pretty confident its flub-shos right now though if you think there's only one scum in that group we can lynch that person and get what we both want.

I'll explain something I noticed when everyone's finishing outing actions.

Why do you think shos is one shot?
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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:05 am

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Also I investigated Dream Man
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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:07 am

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In post 1676, A Real Scourge wrote:shos why'd you target Flub with yer fruit vender?

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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:08 am

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flub can you confirm shos and ars night actions?
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:10 am

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shhhh

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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:10 am

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Why scum gotta kill the puppy machine?
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Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:15 am

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Okay, so only me and flub claim to visit dream man, yet his thing said he was visited by three people.

Either
a) one of shos/ARS is lying
b) this is similar fuckery as what happened yesterday when me and ARS visited dream man but only 1 visit registered. Basically bus driver (would also explain ARS duplicate result).

Leaning towards shos/flub scum because of how yesterday went down, especially with flubber not hammering shos when he could have (yet not really defending him either).
ARS ability is actually confirmed from his work on shos and dream, whereas flubber's role isn't confirmed at all and shos I still think is 1 shot who's getting flubber to vouch for him right now.
Between the two of flub/shos I expect at least one if not both have scum other/extra abilities. b) is good for ARS because his abilities are already proven so he can't be a weird scum role.

Also supporting the second option is that this is the second time this thing happened with dream man visits.
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Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:22 am

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I beleive both of your normal visits. the last one was the kill. this basically proves you two have a role who used on the one scum killed -

so you are a role blocker. as scum you maybe wished to roleblock kill him , your dream man role block is weird in my eyes ... I was expecting the town you to target shos or flubb

why should a scum flub visit and kill similutary his target?

I'm gonna stay from my last read : a scum in shos - flubb one in you- ARS which make me think the scums are you - shos. plus the way we had that klingon lynch - you two knew I will go with a klingon lynch even over RC reads on you two so I'm really thinking about you two as scum right now
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Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:23 am

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and nothing about ARS is confirmed. I don't consider anything confirmed after kelbris/klingon flips.
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Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:26 am

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Plus both ARS and Shos are fruit vendor claimers. plus shos as someone who has a good sense of hearing can listen to klingon results.

basically ARS flavor cop claim means nothing as that role is pretty much like a VT in this setup considering flavor is not alignment indicative.
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Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:52 am

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Maybe flub redirected ARS to visit dream man, counting as a visit from both of them? ARS received the same result that she did the night previous.
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Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:54 am

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ARS can you explain your both night results?
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Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:04 am

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In post 1674, A Real Scourge wrote:targeted Flub last night. he's made of metal, and my PM telling me so was identical to the one i got when I investigated Dream Man.

is Rask the only person who's claimed to have visited Dream Man last night?

In post 1175, A Real Scourge wrote:'knowing your own role'? i imagine my result on anyone would be about the same in terms of usefulness. i mean, damn, the result on got on shos was that he was made of paper.
you're cool with me outing that bit, i'm assuming. Dream Man is made of metal. cool.
also, Rask could have roleblocked you, doesn't have to be a track. why're you asking? he was intentionally vague to avoid full-claiming.

preview: Dream Man if he knew that i'm sure he would have said it

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In post 1165, Dream Man wrote:
In post 1162, Raskolnikov wrote:Dream man, do you know how kelbris died? Do you think mafia would kill one of their own night 1 and claim it as an alternative to bussing?

I do not. Because of the fact that this game is largely role madness, it is difficult to imagine the sorts of powers scum have. Kelbris's role by itself was already rather creative.

I believe that the next course of action is to wait for Scourge's result.

I am running out of options, and ideas on who might be scum.

I do, however, like Raskol's stances that I have observed yesterday and today.

By any chance, with the exception of Raskol, would anyone else like to claim that they have visited me last night?

i visited you last night, Dream. why do you ask?
and, before i'm asked..my result isn't especially useful. it all seems pretty cosmetic.


so your visiting scp's at night and getting your targets are made of metals ... huh
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Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:12 am

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Do you receive the same result or it was different in some details ? Is there anything in your last night result that is related to Dream man flip ? If yes i need you to paraphrase and point it.
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Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:16 am

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why are we assuming i was redirected? Flub hasn't denied being made of metal, so im inclined to think he is.

what do you mean explain my results? just repeat them? I visited shos night 1, got that he was made of paper, Dream Man night 2, got that he was made of metal (metal puppy killing machine), and Flub night 3, also getting that he was made of metal. Flub, confirm you're made of metal.

preview: i got the exact same result as when i targeted Dream Man. it was also worded the same as my shos result. basically, i 'made a papery waffle' night 1, and i 'made a metal waffle' nights 2 and 3.
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Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:17 am

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i doubt i was redirected. there would be no need for it!
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Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:19 am

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oh and Flub why the flip did you target Dream Man? his ability was basically confirmed, no one else was claiming the puppy death.
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Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:24 am

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my role is like shos' but a bit different. shos's visits are confirmed by his targets, my visits are confirmed by my accurate results. they're probably vague so that there are some players i can't tell apart, like Flub and Dream Man.
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Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:30 am

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and that result basically means nothing.

I'm indicated to beleive you. that make Rask a lier about visiting dream last night and probably scum with (shos?) or he was really roleblocked by an imaginary roleblocker.

shos and mine role are basically confirmed. why should flub as roleblocker visit Dream man when their going to kill him? that make no sense. plus no one was roleblocked night 1 beside Rask target obviously (unless dream man?)

whole his roleblock claim make no sense
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Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:31 am

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But shos didn't claim klingon result day 2.

so if Rask is lieing about roleblocking / then klingon wasn't roleblocked / shos lied too / shos is scum with Raskol
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Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:42 am

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In post 1668, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1667, shos wrote:Since I havent, it means 3 out of the 4 targetted dream, this actually doesnt help much


I'm sure dav already claimed mafia can target scum with both their abilities and night kill so it actually is not that much telling. But its a nice info though.

In post 1669, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1272, Davsto wrote:
In post 1262, Elsa and Anna wrote:@Davsto can scum make a night kill and perform another action if they have one in the same night?
They can, providing their Role PM doesn't say otherwise.

these are two different things.

Davsto, can scum target two DIFFERENT targets with ability & kill at the same night?
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Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:48 am

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mmm, good question actually! i kept wondering about that but for some reason it never occurred to me to ask.

Rask the roleblocker being roleblocked himself is kinda weird. redirection is a thing that could be going on, i guess, but i haven't seen any evidence of it yet, besides the Rask thing.
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Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:53 am

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In post 1676, A Real Scourge wrote:shos why'd you target Flub with yer fruit vender?
Because there's no way he would have been killed, so 100% guaranteed result.
In post 1680, Frozen Angel wrote:flub can you confirm shos and ars night actions?

In post 1681, Flubbernugget wrote:shhhh

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I don't understand why you would evade answering this at this point
In post 1683, Raskolnikov wrote:Okay, so only me and flub claim to visit dream man, yet his thing said he was visited by three people.

Either
a) one of shos/ARS is lying
b) this is similar fuckery as what happened yesterday when me and ARS visited dream man but only 1 visit registered. Basically bus driver (would also explain ARS duplicate result).

Leaning towards shos/flub scum because of how yesterday went down, especially with flubber not hammering shos when he could have (yet not really defending him either).
ARS ability is actually confirmed from his work on shos and dream, whereas flubber's role isn't confirmed at all and shos I still think is 1 shot who's getting flubber to vouch for him right now.
Between the two of flub/shos I expect at least one if not both have scum other/extra abilities. b) is good for ARS because his abilities are already proven so he can't be a weird scum role.

Also supporting the second option is that this is the second time this thing happened with dream man visits.

a) this is assuming Frozen is town, yes? if so, I should really just vote ARS; that's the *second* time he's contradicting the only information we know is actually confirmed.
b) a bus driver cannot be it, because it would either redirect ALL of the actions, or redirect one & count as an action, so it doesn't fit. The duplicate result is probably just how his role works. paper, metal, whatever, it's like a material-cop. And it definitely may be a scum role.

if shos/flub were it, how do you explain the previous night of puppy death? NOW we have 2 claimed actions, 1 missing. THEN we had 2 claimed actions, with only ONE confirmed. The first has none of us two, and in both ARS just got unlucky somehow, you think? nah.
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