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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:23 am

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In post 648, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:@SpecterDeflectors: I don't think effort is indicative of alignment, but I generally do find it easier to get better reads on people who have posted content and engaged with other players/had to deal with some pressure on their slot.

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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:28 am

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How is explaining my approach to Mafia 'scumming it up'?
Keep throwing that shade, Hellhound. It's sunny out today, and I want to stay cool.
It is possible -- indeed it is far more than probable -- that he was innocent of all participation in the bloody transactions which took place. The Ourang-Outang may have escaped from him. He may have traced it to the chamber; but, under the agitating circumstances which ensued, he could never have recaptured it. It is still at large.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:16 am

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In post 621, Persivul wrote:And look back at his . I still really hate that post. I don't know why other people aren't bothered by it.

care to explain

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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:26 am

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In post 632, Hellhound wrote:
In post 622, Iecerint wrote:The point of putting effort into the game and evaluating players is to vote for scum.

It's a waste of time if you don't do that, or it means you were reading for a different purpose.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:27 am

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In post 649, Hellhound wrote:
In post 646, Flubbernugget wrote:I'm honestly more concerned that you took what I said as a personal insult than how it actually affects the game at this point

it kind of was a personal insult

Quote me where I insulted past his play.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:29 am

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Sure:
In post 276, Persivul wrote:The point is that you're telegraphing that your reads are likely to change, which looks like nervous scum that knows they should have a progression in their reads.
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:29 am

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That was @EP
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:38 am

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Yo EAP is pretty town though Hellhound.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:53 am

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Lol sike
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:56 am

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In post 657, SirCakez wrote:Yo EAP is pretty town though Hellhound.

is that so?

do me a favor and quote an example of him scumhunting for me plz
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:58 am

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In post 651, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:How is explaining my approach to Mafia 'scumming it up'?
Keep throwing that shade, Hellhound. It's sunny out today, and I want to stay cool.

you havent scumhunted all game. you throw around empty posts like the one i quoted.
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:01 pm

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In post 654, Flubbernugget wrote:Quote me where I insulted past his play.

splitting hairs. ppl are going to react to insulting "play" as if they were personal esp if youre speaking generally
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:04 pm

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In post 301, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:Image
Don't pull that 'erryone is kicking me man feels bad' appeal.
You did open the game with a spooky gif.
Besides, this sounds like scum-caught-for-the-wrong-reasons.
What don't you agree with with regards to how Max, Flubber, and Cakes are pushing you?
Why does it seem like 'getting kicked in the face'? Even I thought your all-caps outburst post was a bit much, mayne.

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Here's one.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:27 pm

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wrong

In post 521, Hellhound wrote:
In post 301, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:Image
Don't pull that 'erryone is kicking me man feels bad' appeal.
You did open the game with a spooky gif.
Besides, this sounds like scum-caught-for-the-wrong-reasons.
What don't you agree with with regards to how Max, Flubber, and Cakes are pushing you?
Why does it seem like 'getting kicked in the face'? Even I thought your all-caps outburst post was a bit much, mayne.

-V

he jumped in w/ this post after the fact, but all the questions right there he could've easily answered by reading the preceding conversation:

Spoiler:
In post 172, Hellhound wrote:VOTE: shiro

In post 106, Shiro wrote:Hi all, seems like I am a bit late to this evolutionary party.

I am seeing some notes for extinction about Mr.Cakez, can someone brief me?


asking for reasons on an early wagon is already sending up red flags for me, mostly b/c i think in the early game, scum are a lot more likely to feel around and ask for town positions and opinions to be fed to them (as opposed to letting them naturally form on their own)

In post 113, Shiro wrote:@Lane TBH I agree with Per that post from flubber was awful. I am calling both of them scum, Cakez went for the jokish bus vote and fell flat. Thoughts ?


this pinged me something fierce. here i'm feeling like shiro is a lot more concerned w/ ingratiating himself to lane and formulating/peddling this narrative that looks good (but is flimsy and doesn't really stand up to much thought) than actually getting the foundation to intuitive and solid reads going

In post 176, Hellhound wrote:sircakez wagon is probably a red herring

In post 180, Hellhound wrote:
In post 175, Specter Deflectors wrote:Shiro's post fits a scum painting but i also think this fits a town-that-hasn't-read-the-thread painting. you're saying that it's more likely to fit a scum narrative but i'm not sure how valid of a point that is.

if you don't know why are you saying anything

ok, let's get this out of the way
"[insert any action or "tell" here] can be done BY BOTH TOWN AND SCUM"

i'm not really sure what your point here is besides taking a crap on me

In post 175, Specter Deflectors wrote:this one i do agree with but do you think that the sircakes scumread is bad coming from people other than shiro or do you think that the specific way that shiro theorized sircakes interactions was bad? does the quality of the "narrative" affect the read in any way?


ehhhhhhhhhhhhh, i don't have a particular problem w/ the way anyone else is pushing sircakez i just dont think it's very compelling or very good or any of them do a good job in explaining the case in a cogent way

this also really isn't something you can dissect down to the nth degree. you kind of either see it or you don't. yeah, the whole "look at teh busssss" angle is pretty strained.

In post 189, Hellhound wrote:because you still haven't said why [whatever it is you said] -------> scum

you just kind of said it

In post 195, Hellhound wrote:
In post 191, Apricity wrote:I'm reading the Cakez thingy now. I want to vote him; those 2 posts were pretty bad, but the last time he did super scummy things and I deathtunneled him he was actually town. So idk if this is the same sort of thing.

is it really "super scummy"?

it's not surprising that ppl are pretty fluid w/ their votes/attitudes/beliefs in the early game so...

i don't really even get it

In post 200, Hellhound wrote:why should i care about any of this and how is it alignment indicative?

In post 203, Hellhound wrote:
In post 198, Flubbernugget wrote:If he wasn't convinced in what persuvial was saying about me, why did he vote me?

>because he wanted to pressure you
>because he just wanted to shamelessly bandwagon
>because his finger slipped

pick one

you want to know why i called it a red herring?

b/c i think most ppl on the wagon are so caught up in OMG LOOKZ ITS A CONTRADICTION I LEARNED THIS IN ACE ATTORNEY and no one's actually trying to connect the dots from "sircakez said this thing" to "sircakez is thinking like scum and therefore probably is scum"

In post 204, Hellhound wrote:
In post 202, Flubbernugget wrote:Also I'm not explaining why dissonance is scummy

yeah, you couldn't even if you tried b/c you're using "dissonance" as a buzzword in this context

In post 207, Hellhound wrote:/sigh

ok well i think this is a good place for me to leave this conversation.

In post 209, Hellhound wrote:i got baited into this conversation and now max is wanting to turn it around on me like i'm whiteknighting or whatever

seriously, fuck this noise

In post 211, Hellhound wrote:
In post 208, Specter Deflectors wrote:104 is what actually bothered me. Opinion on that post in particular?

i'm... not getting anything alignment indicative from that post

/shrug

In post 213, Hellhound wrote:
In post 205, Specter Deflectors wrote:I think their treatment of the Cakez wagon is just reminding me of myself as scum.

you got some short term memory loss

In post 219, Hellhound wrote:b/c that's like... the most immediate and intuitive thing associated w/ "scummy defense"

In post 224, Hellhound wrote:
In post 222, Specter Deflectors wrote:PEdit: Bruh I didn't say 'scummy defense' I said 'treatment of the Cakez wagon'

oh my god

if we're really doing this, just fucking kill me now

In post 228, Hellhound wrote:only if that iced tea comes w/ hefty dose of beta blockers


these are all out of context b/c i just went to our iso and hit the "q+" button for posts that DIRECTLY speak to my opinion on the gamestate but you can click on the links to any of those, read the full conversation and pretty easily follow what happened and figure out 1) what my thought processes reads-wise were and 2) why i was getting frustrated (by the way max, i got frustrated with you mostly b/c it felt like you were nitpicking. probably wasn't all rational but meh, it was a pretty rough week for me.)

varsoon COMPLETELY failed to do any of that though and opted to jump in on the tail-end of the conversation when he thought he could make me look bad. so far, he's given no sign of wanting to develop genuine reads but he has been working pretty hard to spin a coherent narrative and sell the shit out of it.


try again?
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:32 pm

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Did he ever respond to that actually? I missed your response there before.
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:53 pm

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I did, but let Hellhound warp it to his conf-bias.
It is possible -- indeed it is far more than probable -- that he was innocent of all participation in the bloody transactions which took place. The Ourang-Outang may have escaped from him. He may have traced it to the chamber; but, under the agitating circumstances which ensued, he could never have recaptured it. It is still at large.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:59 pm

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you did not
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:53 pm

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In post 560, lane0168 wrote:
In post 553, zakk wrote:VOTE: Apricity

Gettin scum vibes.


Where do you see scum vibes?

just a gut feeling from early postings, i still need to read more though
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:54 pm

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In post 562, SirCakez wrote:My entire scum pool is the four people voting me gg

yeah that's proooobably a good sign that your scum pool is a teensy bit... off :giggle:

In post 562, SirCakez wrote:Probably at least two town in this pool then since I highly doubt all the scum would vote together like that

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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:54 pm

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In post 573, Apricity wrote:Don't understand what zakk sees as vote-worthy, so an explanation would be nice.

Hi, are you scum?
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:57 pm

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In post 590, hiplop wrote:gee its evolution mafia, why might someone as spectacular and grand as I

be talking in such a eloquent, sophisticated,majestic manner

hahahaha. this post was fun to read :lol:

i seem to remember you being a fun/difficult player... but i don't remember anything specific

i just googled, we both got killed as vanilla townies on N2 in Mini 1702 time travel mafia. lol
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:58 pm

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In post 593, Specter Deflectors wrote:Town:
Hellhound

Town for now:
Iece
EAP
Apricity
Cakez

Unsure:
Heat (would lynch)
zakk (would drag my feet on lynching)

Would support lynching:
Flubber
Persivul

Scum:
Shiro
hiplop
lane

pls tell me why, for all of these. one sentence each

and darn right you better drag your feet on lynching me :!:
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:03 pm

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Fire bringer here to show you how I am the better half of this hydra, <3 Antihero.
I have been reading as of late and told anti I wanted to pressure hiphop more, but he told me his likely mislynch bait.
Right now Specters is my hardest town read.

We should lynch out of these: Iece, Hiplop, or possibly lane.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:14 pm

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explain you bacterial infection
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:14 pm

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In post 672, Hellhound wrote:We should lynch out of these: Iece,

What
Explain that please

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