Mini 1764: Netherspite's SORM III [Game Over]

[shos]

Of course, and yet, bviously in the end of the day


Pedit yeah lol
VOTE: snarky

[Randomnamechange]

Snarky lynch ahould be shos, Anen, 3dice and aristo.

[FA_Q2]

I was Roleblocked at Night1.

I want to know why you waited until day 3 to share that amazing info with the rest of the class....

[FA_Q2]

Assuming that the 3p is in snarky/aronis (that is a damn good bet if you ask me) and we lynch both slots today we end up with:

Aristo, Anen, rando, shos, me and 3d (6 remaining players). If the other in aronis/snarky is scum then we are doing damn good with a confirmed townie and I will be confirmed tomorrow. HOWEVER, if one of those is just shit town then we end up with 2 scum 4 town. Should we mislynch then we are 3T 2S entering night and a successful NK will end the game in scum's favor. Without the flip info from the first 2 lynches we have no real idea of the shape that we are in going into the night phase and we very well could be in

MYLO

. I am really uncomfortable with the manner in which shos and anen tried to town confirm each other and I think there is a real possibility that they are the scum team. A no lynch might be preferable here. As that will give us the flip info and one more day to press on. The only caveat here is that there is a jester and we end up with a 50/50 chance that kill ends up on scum – odds I really do not like – and if it does not we would lose. Jester is not a for sure role that is present in this game though.

What do you think about no lynching on the 3rd lynch rando? Obviously we would still take care of snarky.

[shos]

If either of them is shit town, im fuckimg quitting the site, lol

No way in hell.
We shoild be 5v1

[Aristophanes]

Cool. VOTE: Snarky

[Aristophanes]

Also, NL is optimal 3rd vote. I agree.

[3dicerolling]

VOTE: snarky

No lynch would make sense

[Randomnamechange]

We should discuss beforehand though.

[SnarkySnowman]

VOTE: Snarky

[SnarkySnowman]

Good luck town!

[Netherspite]

VoteCount 3.7

[LYNCH!]

SnarkySnowman (4):

shos, Aristophanes, 3dicerolling, SnarkySnowman

Not Voting (3):

Aneninen, randomidget, FA_Q2

With 7 players alive, it takes

4

votes to lynch someone.

The deadline is in

(expired on 2016-04-01 22:00:00)

[Netherspite]

SnarkySnowman

has been lynched. Town may perform up to 1 more lynch today.

VoteCount 3.8

Not Voting (6):

Aristophanes, Aneninen, randomidget, shos, FA_Q2, 3dicerolling

With 6 players alive, it takes

4

votes to lynch someone.

The deadline is in

(expired on 2016-04-01 22:00:00)

[Randomnamechange]

Everyone who isn't myself or FA should give thoughts on who scum is, so scum can't optimise their nightkill as easily.

[Aneninen]

Sorry, I've had such a busy day that I'm too tired now to catch-up.
Tomorrow I'll post, okay?

[3dicerolling]

I'm kind of thinking it's between aristo and shos, but idk.

If aristo was scum, why would he claim detective? A role already claimed?

[shos]

Well he had to claim *something*.

I dunno yet, will think later after shower

[Aneninen]

I was Roleblocked at Night1.

I want to know why you waited until day 3 to share that amazing info with the rest of the class....

It was enough to hint that I know something that others don't. I wanted to give no information to the scum nor to force others to claim unnecessarily. At that point most players had told us nothing about their PRs, remember that. So I wasn't even sure whether my theory was right. (Xk wanted to Roleblock Shos but the action ended up at me because of Firebringer.) There could have been eg. a Town Escort, another Bus-Driver etc. As side-effects, there was a chance that a scum under stress would claim something silly (that I could have refuted easily). Or for me to eat a Nightkill. Alternatively, there could have been a wagon on me so that I could have been forced to claim before others (and that would have given us some info about eg. the Mafia Team).
Nevertheless, I managed to derail the Shos-wagon with little effort. Was it a bad stragety?

I am really uncomfortable with the manner in which shos and anen tried to town confirm each other and I think there is a real possibility that they are the scum team.

(1) Shos has never called me conf-town.
(2) For that team you had to assume these: Xk Roleblocked his buddy intentionally and we had been hoping that a town Bus-Driver had picked exactly Shos and me for their action.

What do you think about no lynching on the 3rd lynch rando? Obviously we would still take care of snarky.

Why?

VOTE: Snarky

And after that vote I'm definitely not a conf-town.
Really sorry for f-cking it up. Had I been here we could have had an auto-win.

Everyone who isn't myself or FA should give thoughts on who scum is, so scum can't optimise their nightkill as easily.

I assume Aronis was scum (Godfather or Framer?) and Snowman was Jester (because of his self-hammer).
If so,

Randomidget – confirmed town.
FA_Q2 – Either he confirms him Tonight or he's auto-lynch.
Shos – Unless I'm missing something about the Setup or the possible Night Actions, I can see no chance for him being scum.
3-Dice – I don't think he's scum. However, if it's not Aristo, it must be him.
Aristophanes – He must be scum. Partly because of his play, partly because of Druuge's one. His claim means nothing. Claiming a duplicate PR is WIFOM at best.

[Aristophanes]

Except I'm not scum. But okay. We have the lynch to spare.

[Aneninen]

Wait, there may be a pretty good chance, if...

Mod!

Erm, let's imagine the following.
Here's a fictional SORM situation:

CaptainPicard (4) LYNCH – Triss Merigold, Sgt. Pepper, Clotilde, CaptainPicard

Later that Day:

Clotilde (4) LYNCH – Hypercube, Triss Merigold, Mmrnmhrm, FN2187

CaptainPicard flips Jester.

Will the Random Death (at Night) take place between
{Triss Merigold, Sgt. Pepper, Clotilde, CaptainPicard}
OR
{Triss Merigold, Sgt. Pepper}
?

[Netherspite]

Random death takes place between players alive at the moment of the night start.

[Aneninen]

Thanks, Nether!
The game has been broken then!

I'm from mobile and off to work, but I'll explain it as I get home.

[Aristophanes]

Thanks, Nether!
The game has been broken then!

I'm from mobile and off to work, but I'll explain it as I get home.

I think this has been said every game. I don't believe it ever has been the case...

[shos]

How has it been broken? Random death will happen if snarky is scum between his wagoners...regardless of alignment...so..?

[FA_Q2]

(1) Shos has never called me conf-town.
(2) For that team you had to assume these: Xk Roleblocked his buddy intentionally and we had been hoping that a town Bus-Driver had picked exactly Shos and me for their action.

Nice try:

(note that I pu 4 randoms there)

Looks like from the claims, we can:
1. confirm Anen as town power/killing.
2. know that either Aronis or Snarky are lying, which means the plan to lynch both today is actually good
3. there are conflicts between {me & Aristo} and {3dr , firebringer}.

SO
if we lynch ARONIS and SNARKY we have 1 scum dead for sure, and the other is neutral, so we're good and left with six alive, of which one is scum:
{

random

, [/b]anen[/b],}
{3dr}
{shos, aristo}
{FAQ2}.

scum roleblocker is dead, so FA_Q2 will confirm himself at night.

say we lynch 3dr. if he is scum we win. if not, we know he was a random, so there's only one random left, between me and aristo, and come morning we have 4p mylo

Yes he did say you were confirmed based on the claims. It was a mistake or a ploy - those are the only 2 options. Considering that I agreed at first I can see how a mistake is possible.

What do you think about no lynching on the 3rd lynch rando? Obviously we would still take care of snarky.

Why?

Explained in the post that you quoted. It is clear why. How about you tell us what you think on the reasoning.

VOTE: Snarky

And after that vote I'm definitely not a conf-town.
Really sorry for f-cking it up. Had I been here we could have had an auto-win.

Not really. Snarky self voting changes nothing and you voting in his place also would change nothing. I find this comment interesting because a town member would be more than happy to be off this wagon. If you are correct that snarky is the jester (and it looks that way) you being off the wagon increases our chance of hitting scum with the random kill to 2/3rds instead of 1/2 and that is a massive help.

You being off makes me seriously reconsider a no-lynch though. I have to consider some numbers though. More on this later.