Mini 1776: Evolution Mafia (Game Over)

[Specter Deflectors]

lane- i reviewed your iso and i'd probably promote you to would support lynching.
but for me there seems to be a quality in your reads that makes me think that they're fake.

Here's my case.

1. Cakez- I felt that the reason for you pushing cakez is not really enough for you to just not consider any other people, which is the vibe i get from you. I don't really understand how you would think that. I can disagree with something and still understand how it would come from town. That's not what's happening here.
2. Apricity- "hey i've seen scum do this before so apricity might be scum." that's bad. in addition to that, what you're talking about is literally low activity. That's mislynch logic.
3. EAP- 440 I thought was a lot stronger than what you had going for Cakez, yet you didn't vote EAP. Do you disagree with me here and why?
4. hiplop- you seem to be antagonistic with this slot without saying anything explicitly like "this is scum." That makes me suspicious.

-EP.

[Specter Deflectors]

then why ask me to explain, hippy :/

[hiplop]

I wanted to see what answer you would give.

[hiplop]

and if it was anything other than petty shakespearean tragedy

I thought maybe you had adapted beyond that, but alas not

[Specter Deflectors]

I know full well why you're thinking I'm scum. So I'm going to keep doing it.

This is what your second sentence tells me

"I want to give off this vibe of 'I don't care how other people perceive me' but I actually do"

[Specter Deflectors]

hiplop what do you think of my other scumreads

[hiplop]

I know full well why you're thinking I'm scum. So I'm going to keep doing it.

This is what your second sentence tells me

"I want to give off this vibe of 'I don't care how other people perceive me' but I actually do"

only you would pick up on it? I didn't expect you to attack me, I guess.

Lane feels weak? Like yea, maybe? Shiro same.

I feel something isn't clicking this game

[Iecerint]

His "this is gonna be one of those games" comment tho is kinda nullscum to me cause it just reminds me of throwing hands up instead of explaining or talking to ppl

Null...scum?

[Iecerint]

this is from a full reread of the game, not just ISOs

EAP: I like what EAP says about Cakez on the Heat wagon in 153. I will note that I also think that the EAP push on hellhound was misguided imo but can come from a town perspective definitely. But i will note that pushing someone who isn't posting a lot of content, i feel is mislynch logic. I do notice some other people along with IANV trying to push some low-activity people which makes no sense to me because why would effort indicate alignment unless it was some insanely real meta dichotomy if you catch my drift.

hiplop: I don't want to go into detail about why I thought/think hiplop was/is scum until i'm more confident in it. I do think that hiplop's strategy might work if we were a little more coordinated and had a little more time, but it's just not feasible.

Hellhound: Like I said before, I find little validity in what other people argue for hellhound being scum. I don't think that necessarily makes the people that push hellhound scum.

Heat: Heat's catchup failed to take a lot of good stances but I think he makes some good points.

SirCakez: I don't think the change in Flubber was particularly bad. When you consider it, it seems coming more from a town perspective than scum motivation. However, that being said, I do think that his response to the resulting pressure was bad.

lane: Looking back on it, lane's entrance was really bland. I originally liked the cakes push, the narrative that he was pushing was at least better than Shiro's but that doesn't really mean much to me anymore. The push on Apricity makes me HIGHLY uncomfortable. I dont know what to think about lane's observation on the EAP push on hellhound, I thought that was definitely something that merited lane's vote so it makes it weird that lane didn't vote.

Shiro: The early game was something that I felt needed a good response for me to ignore. did not deliver. I also dislike the SirCakez push.

Apricity: This townread on Apri is a meta read, and so I don't want to put too much stock in it. However, I will note that I felt there were a lot of things that pinged me in space invaders that came from Apri when Apri was conftown, meaning that behavior that I find scummy isn't actually very indicative. 382 - I don't necessarily agree with shiro admitting that the post looked scummy makes shiro scum, but i do think that others might come to that conclusion.

Iecerint: Miller claim, cool. I assume that was the mod clarification question

Flubbernugget: 174 seems weird to me no matter how I look at it. But his reaction to my push on him seemed legit. I do agree with Persivul in 248 and I think that Persivul is town for now, and Flubber is someone that I might consider. I agree with a lot of what Flubber says on page 14, so there is that.

Persivul: I don't think that Pers is particularly scum for pushing the Heat wagon, but I do think that there is some oddness to the way that the Heat wagon developed. I don't understand how Cakez tries to defend the Heat wagon as something that was legit, feels odd to me. I do think that the Flubberpush early on for the strategy discussion was bad, but genuine. Persivul's game later on sort of doesn't really strike me as particularly good.

zakk/shadow: Shadow keeps the interactions to a minimum, really only talking about firebringer. I personally the reluctance to interact with the playerlist as a whole possibly scummy, but then again, the activity level from this slot kind of skews that data.

Other than shiro, I would seriously consider hiplop and lane.
I would weakly consider Persivul and flubber for now.

-EP

So like after all that work, why not vote for someone?

[Shiro]

@Ice

He is kind of voting me ? Like how did you miss that ?

[Shiro]

Hey Shiro. Care to address the other parts of my post you quoted?

Max isn't a specific post I didn't answer that because I answered it to him. Thought you caught that post.

Hiplop I am just not feeling the scum vibes you know ? I mean he could be easily jumping to my wagon instead of attracting as much attention as he is doing but he doesn't. All aroudn I find his approach to the game coming from town.

[hiplop]

finally, a sophisticated citizen shows up to town

[Flubbernugget]

You don't believe his miller claim?

His play is coasting to hard for me to town read that claim

[Flubbernugget]

You're right. I missed it in 497

You also missed his 3 in a row posts???

I was concerned that he was posting before a formal mod introduction

[Flubbernugget]

Hiplop is playing better than I've previously seen but idk what to make of it

[Iecerint]

@Ice

He is kind of voting me ? Like how did you miss that ?

Did you read any of the post I quoted?

[Iecerint]

Hiplop is playing better than I've previously seen

Oh dear.

[hiplop]

Hiplop is playing better than I've previously seen but idk what to make of it

what
VOTE: flubber

[hiplop]

someone isn't reading the thread

[Hellhound]

@Ice

He is kind of voting me ? Like how did you miss that ?

Did you read any of the post I quoted?

you didn't make a good point. who cares if he didn't change the vote?

firebringer brought up the fact that you make really surface-level, crappy comments and upon inspection of your iso that's....

true

do you have anything... good?

[hiplop]

guys, lynch flubber. He slipped quite heavily.

[Persivul]

And look back at his 146. I still really hate that post. I don't know why other people aren't bothered by it.

[Iecerint]

@Ice

He is kind of voting me ? Like how did you miss that ?

Did you read any of the post I quoted?

you didn't make a good point. who cares if he didn't change the vote?

firebringer brought up the fact that you make really surface-level, crappy comments and upon inspection of your iso that's....

true

do you have anything... good?

The point of putting effort into the game and evaluating players is to vote for scum.

It's a waste of time if you don't do that, or it means you were reading for a different purpose.

[Iecerint]

Shiro's bizarre defense is strange because the post also doesn't contain continued justification for a push on Shiro.

[SirCakez]

Persivul, Hiplop, who are your scumreads? I'm agreeing with everything said on this page about Flubber, Lane and Shiro but these players are all wagoning together which is really off.