Mini 1764: Netherspite's SORM III [Game Over]

[Ranger]

380 in particular is concerning to me.

[Ranger]

This is a mental note to recheck past games with 3dice, in particular How To Be Normal.

Getting caught up in the game's slightly more important than meta right now, but it's something I definitely need to look at.

[Ranger]

(Also if it helps, 393 shows I'm not groupscum, soyeah, don't lynch me.)

[Ranger]

18.

I was wrong.

3dice is scum. With shos, and having been with Xkfyu.

[Ranger]

19.

Scumread on 3dice grows stronger.
Compare: 458 from FA_Q2 is a town reason for having suspected Rory. It was

wrong

, but it was still a solid push.
To this:

And I'm very certain if he was town citizen he would have outright claimed it.
VOTE: Rory

3dice is being lazy, opportunistic scum, pushing the lynch most convenient as it comes up. And shos is his partner.

[Ranger]

For those keeping track:
{Yargami, SnarkySnowman, FA_Q2}
{Aneninen}
{randomidget}
{Aristophanes}
{Aronis}
{shos, 3dicerolling}

shos is scum, probably a scum investigative. So his claimed role is probably truthful, but his result's questionable.
3dicerolling is scum, probably the Godfather.

Aronis may or may not be the serial killer, depending on whether shos was telling the truth with his result or not. I still think he's scum of some sort. He's definitely not town though.
Aristophanes and randomidget are candidates for filling in the gaps of non-town players, though one of them is still definitely town. (Because we have five non-town, SnarkySnowman is one of them, and that leaves four left, when I have a pool of {shos, 3dicerolling, Aronis, Aristophanes, randomidget}.)

If I could, I'd lynch shos.
If not, 3dice.
Aronis is not the best lynch option available, but seems to be the only realistic lynch we can achieve that has any true chance of being on a non-town player.

[Netherspite]

VoteCount 2.13

Aristophanes (3):

shos, Yarrrrgami, Aneninen

shos (2):

SnarkySnowman, randomidget

Ranger (2):

Aronis, 3dicerolling

Aronis (2):

FA_Q2, Ranger

Not Voting (1):

Aristophanes

With 10 players alive, it takes

6

votes to lynch someone.

The deadline is in

(expired on 2016-03-16 22:33:00)

[Ranger]

I targetted Aronis.

I'm expecting some sort of explanation for this contradiction too, else you guys should have run shos up.

[Ranger]

I'm so dumb, I forgot to submit my night action :(

I call absolute BS on this, by the way.
This is the godfather making up an excuse.

[Ranger]

You know what.
Screw it.

VOTE: 3dicerolling.
I don't want to lynch Aronis.
At worst, he's a neutral. I'm starting to second-guess that off of his D2 play along with the shos result which

is

more likely than not a truthful claim, since lying would do him little good.
At best, he's actually town.

In either case, he's not scum.

3dice is.

[Ranger]

Though shos apparently still has support?
VOTE: shos.

My vote will not leave from those two.
I will lynch shos, I will lynch 3dice, but I will not be voting anyone else.

[Ranger]

Xy's interactions with Aneninen are not sitting well with me.

I actually got the opposite impression: Xkfyu's interactions with Aneninen suggested they are

not

scum together. I do agree about Aronis, though! (Which is another reason not to lynch him, since he cannot be groupscum, meaning

at absolute best

he'd be a serial killer if shos lied about his result. But that best-case scenario is only possible if shos is scum, in which case, we...lynch shos first.)

[Ranger]

I can get behind 605.
randomidget hasn't been

as

strongly town to me as to Aneninen, but I certainly am not getting bad vibes, either.

[Ranger]

His interactions with 3-Dice seems to be genuine. (I won't quote that, it's very long.)

This is the only point Aneninen made that I disagree with: I'm fairly convinced they're scumbuddies.

Do a triple-iso of 3dicerolling, Xkfyu, and shos. Their interactions are all very forced, and they all fit the same profile for scum players contributing very little and making weak pushes which focus on other players: they vote each other, but immediately find excuses to remove said votes and look elsewhere.

[shos]

I targetted aronis because he was playing like shit the entire game and I thought he was scum, as you could see if you actually read all the pages you said you had read.

@FA: why would ANY of those roles not use his action? And which of these roles do you think fir with aronis' gameplay?

I will be here to hammer of it comes to it, before deadline.

Lynches I am OK with:

Ranger
Aristo
Aronis.

Aronis is vig material, better that than lynching him because it would draw a random kill we don't want. Ranger and aristo can both die, I have no preference here.

In fact, when I think about it, the whole "oh yeah i forgot too" thing sort of aligns with the force-replace-due-to-inactivity. Hmmm.

[Ranger]

650 reinforces my point: shos attacked droog (who is Aristophanes), but let 3dicerolling basically go free.

[shos]

Do you even read?

[Ranger]

Aronis you are the worst jester ever.

No, that honor belongs to me. :P

(I'm sorry, I had to.)

[Ranger]

Do you even read?

Yes, I do.
My reading is increasingly solidifying my opinions.

I believe your investigation was real. You have no reason to lie about targeting Aronis. Your reasons for targeting Aronis could even be true, too! Scum have good reason to hunt for the SK and other neutrals, namely, to identify, manipulate, or eliminate them.

I do not believe you are town for the investigation.
I also no longer believe Aronis is scum. Not a serial killer by your own result. Not groupscum from interactions. Probably not a neutral benign since there's hints of good play from Aronis suggesting not a jester, and no obvious lynch target so not a lyncher, yet also no visit so not amnesiac. The only neutral benign Aronis could be, then, is survivor. Aronis could also not be most of the neutral evils: not a witch, not an auditor, not a cultist, and probably not a judge, either (since there was no message during the night). As a result, Aronis is probably town.

So I'm not going to support that lynch anymore.

The lynch today should be either you, or 3dicerolling.
And, heck!
You yourself admitted the claim of not submitting an action is suspicious, yet while Aristophanes is in your lynch pool, you've removed 3dice from consideration altogether and nothing I've seen from you has justified that.

[Ranger]

Caught up.

{Yargami, SnarkySnowman, FA_Q2, Aneninen}
{Aronis}
{randomidget}
{Aristophanes}
{shos, 3dicerolling}

I'm comfortable with Aneninen being town, so he gets to go back up. (Honestly shoulda done that a long time ago.)

Aristophanes

could

be the SK here from simple POE alone, but he's not groupscum. I'd vote there if absolutely necessary (actually, I'm going to bed soon and won't be around for deadline, so that's a lie, though it's true I'd be willing), but I wouldn't be happy about it.

[Aneninen]

We're running out of time.
We need to lynch.
Get off that Shos-wagon.

Catching up soon. (Briefly, because I don't have a lot of time.)

[3dicerolling]

Man, how ironic ranger's top scum reads are the player strongly pushing her lynch, and the obv town shos.

Lol scum.

[Aneninen]

She is.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ranger
Willing to return to anyone on my lynch-list, but the Aristo-wagon doesn't seem to move.

[Randomnamechange]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ranger
Fine.

[SnarkySnowman]

Can we not lynch ranger please :/