Mini 1766: SCP Foundation Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Klingoncelt]

you just claimed you can read me? and RadiantCowbells ?!

srsly you just did that?

~Elsa

I can read Cowbells more easily than I can you.

Keep in mind the last time I had to read you was in SaGa, I was Scum there.

[Klingoncelt]

I mean is there even 1 game between you and me which you didn't scum read me like shit , ever ?!

~Elsa

We can't discuss ongoing games...

But anyway, your playstyle when you first joined here was pretty lynch-baity. And I was Scum a couple times. And I think you actually were scum once. So...

[Klingoncelt]

would you hammer Mario, Kling?
and to make sure we're on the same page, you're a sea slug then? the adventurer dude? i'm trying to think about how that relates to an investigative power... i guess he is an explorer that's cataloged a lot of artifacts.

well, it doesn't matter.

Actually I'm a healthy adult man, a citizen of the Crown, these silly doctors and staff here like to tease me by referring to me as a slug or a snail. How droll of them.

to hammer Mario

Mario, please claim.

[Klingoncelt]

Mod - ^ that ^ was supposed to read INTENT to hammer Mario.

[A Real Scourge]

i think shos is a better lynch than Mario. i'm not really feeling it at all anymore.

[Klingoncelt]

I was pretty sure that Aristocow were Scum. To a point Mario has been redeeming the slot, but Mario's fixation on Shos has me wondering.

If I may, I would ask how you arrived at these conclusions, for, I am in staunch disagreement with them, particularly the point where "Mario has been redeeming the slot".

I know Ari's play pretty well, he was a hot mess, as in the worst I've ever seen him play. Mario made the slot look

less

scummy, as in redeeming the slot

to a point.

I was hoping for more improvement, but I haven't seen it yet.

[Klingoncelt]

i convinced myself of this like halfway through 893.

shos-scum means Mario town regardless of how i feel about him, and i'm much, much more confident in shos scum.

though Dream man still needs to reply, because i think he was out of line when he told me i should replace out.

Don't get too 1-dimensional with associatives. This game is multiball. I check

alignments

[A Real Scourge]

okay, then shos-scum means Mario not-scum. better? i'd still rather lynch shos over Mario, but i can see why you want him lynched. i didn't like Aristocow's play at all.

[Klingoncelt]

... Watcher if any should be on her so we are able to verify whether or not she gets roleblocked.

I do like Shos and MM4 as the leading wagons for the moment. I'm going to reread MM4 real quickly and see what's up with that.

I like the Watcher idea. Could do wonders for Town if I'm NKed.

About my results - I don't get them. My PM said basically I say the result out loud and someone with good hearing gets the result, while I forget what I said.

Now with Alch being killed, I wondered if there was a result given, so I asked Davsto. He told me that NKs won't interfere with my results. So either someone got the result and isn't telling us, or that person was roleblocked.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon is playing to her scum meta which makes her susp in my eyes. But I don't want to lynch her if we can get her confttownd which might work tonight.

Mario is saying bad things and I don't like it and on top of that he didn't respond to the vote on him like he did in the blitz I played with him so he's probably scu
Pedit bad vote rask are u scum

You played one game with me - one of my worst played games - and you think you know my meta?

Eagle, that's just sad.

[A Real Scourge]

you mean you were roleblocked? i don't think someone else getting roleblocked would stop them from receiving the result, since you were the one who actually took the action.

why do you forget what you said? your SCP remembers everything he cataloged pretty vividly. the article says he embellishes, but he doesn't forget.

[Klingoncelt]

you mean you were roleblocked? i don't think someone else getting roleblocked would stop them from receiving the result, since you were the one who actually took the action.

why do you forget what you said? your SCP remembers everything he cataloged pretty vividly. the article says he embellishes, but he doesn't forget.

I don't know why I forget, as you said, the SCP has a pretty good memory. But my rolecard says I forget what I said and someone with good hearing gets the result.

I think roleblocking them would keep them from getting the info, wouldn't it? Like if they're being jailkept they would be locked away and unable to hear me, or if they were on a hot date with a Consort/Escort they'd be chatting her up and not listening to me. Or if they had a Commuter card and left Town for the night...

[A Real Scourge]

well, that really depends on the mod, i think. roleblocking stops them from taking their action, but it doesn't stop passive things like PGO and bulletproof, right? you took the action, and it happened (this is provided you're not roleblocked), and the mod just sends it along to a random player... at least, that's how i would think of it. you could ask and see if Davsto can answer or not?

[Klingoncelt]

I'll try asking.

[Raskolnikov]

I'm pretty sure scum wouldn't claim a role that could be easily verified (if not today then tomorrow).
And E+A had a point earlier in that klingon being scum having the same ability as kelbris doesn't make sense either.

[Klingoncelt]

PM sent.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm pretty sure scum wouldn't claim a role that could be easily verified (if not today then tomorrow).
And E+A had a point earlier in that klingon being scum having the same ability as kelbris doesn't make sense either.

Kelbris was a Mafia JoaT whose abilities were nothing like mine.

[Klingoncelt]

I'll be back later.

[Raskolnikov]

You may target a player to watch, and a PM will be sent listing who targeted that player with an action that night. However, the PM result will not go to you - it will go to another player of your choosing who is not aligned with the Chaos Insurgency. This player will not be informed of whom the watched player was.

Close enough.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Klingon is playing to her scum meta which makes her susp in my eyes. But I don't want to lynch her if we can get her confttownd which might work tonight.

Mario is saying bad things and I don't like it and on top of that he didn't respond to the vote on him like he did in the blitz I played with him so he's probably scu
Pedit bad vote rask are u scum

You played one game with me - one of my worst played games - and you think you know my meta?

Eagle, that's just sad.

Hey bud. Listen. If I thought I KNEW your meta then I would have brought it up as soon as you started omgusing obvtown like crazy.

But no, I'm bringing it up now because I saw you play as scum, this looks like that, and none of your actions thus far have been really pro town.

I'm not even pushing for your lynch.

But keep up this condescending bs up and I will push you so hard for a lynch just based on the fact that you have been helpful to town the way jar jar binks was helpful to the republic: only by accident. "This is sad." I'm sorry that valid points about previous play makes you less than happy.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

The message I got from the mod was that a puppy came and played with me last night or something like that. So I barked at shos. He barked back. It means SOMETHING or the role is straight up useless to town. So I think we keep him alive?

[Dream Man]

though Dream man still needs to reply, because i think he was out of line when he told me i should replace out.

My sincerest apologies for the inconsiderate remark. I was in error, for I had interpreted your message as being one that was affected by your real life commitments. Certainly, I had given you the benefit of the doubt, for otherwise under normal circumstances that very same post would warrant a vote by itself -- immediately.

i'm really sorry about my lack of activity, guys! it's outside stuff. i'm normally not like this.

shos' proof of being town is paper thin, tbh. but i won't press it any more. i don't know if Eagle's reasons are as good as he thinks.

i think Eagle's town (probably..?), it's just shos i'm worried about.
and Mario replaced AristoCow, right? it's weird because i'd be totally happy with the Mario wagon except he's voting shos. and your own scumpartner isn't an ideal counterwagon! but i could be wrong on one or the other, and since it doesn't look like we can lynch shos today, i'm good with the Mario wagon from what i've seen of his ISO. (not that it's a lot)

i'll read up properly tomorrow. Klingon, you're voting Elsa and Anna. do you think Mario is town? what about Eagle?

"i'm really sorry about my lack of activity, guys! it's outside stuff. i'm normally not like this." - This suggests a sense of self-consciousness, which is untoward, for the entire game's activity levels has not been stellar as a whole. It is a fact that scum trend towards being more self-conscious than town, because of their mission to avoid suspicion entirely, and it appears that this sentence demonstrates that very same heightened self-consciousness that would have been inappropriate given the circumstances.

"shos' proof of being town is paper thin, tbh. but i won't press it any more. i don't know if Eagle's reasons are as good as he thinks." - This sentence appears to avoid giving a stance on shos himself, appearing to put suspicion on shos while being afraid to "press any more", almost as if having the knowledge of shos's alignment while taking advantage of his awkward position. This, of course, opens up an avenue for yourself to attack shos at a later point, while not outright calling him scum in this very same post.

"i think Eagle's town (probably..?), it's just shos i'm worried about." - This provides easy reads, but it is impossible to follow the train of thought that led to these conclusions. Little mention of either Eagle or shos (and their corresponding levels of town-ness) was made prior to this, giving the impression that these reads were formed on-the-go and that they might have been engineered to capitalize and take advantage of the current gamestate.

"and Mario replaced AristoCow, right?" - This is non content, for the question could easily be answered by a simple fact-check.

"it's weird because i'd be totally happy with the Mario wagon except he's voting shos." - Similar to the already-weak point against shos, the stance here appears to put suspicion on Mario and be ready to vote him, while giving a reason to backtrack if necessary. This parallels the preceding statement about shos, where Scourge takes advantage of Mario's vulnerable position while seeming to have the knowledge that Mario is town.

"and your own scumpartner isn't an ideal counterwagon! but i could be wrong on one or the other, and since it doesn't look like we can lynch shos today, i'm good with the Mario wagon from what i've seen of his ISO. (not that it's a lot)" - This gives justification to put Scourge at a position to vote either Mario or shos, his "scumreads", while also providing evidently poor counterarguments to redress himself should either lynch flip town. To recap, Scourge is avoiding outright scumreading shos for the dog-noises and Eagle's confirmation, in the same post denouncing them, while his reasons for avoiding Mario are pre-flip associations based on the already-slippery reasoning for scumreading shos. This looks like an advantageous position that scum would take.

"i'll read up properly tomorrow. Klingon, you're voting Elsa and Anna. do you think Mario is town? what about Eagle?" - And asking questions is not content.


Therefore, as we can conclude that Scourge's questionable post was not made under the duress of his real-life commitments, and that a deeper analysis of Scourge's post further highlights the underlying motivations that tend to benefit scum moreso than town,

VOTE: A Real Scourge

[Klingoncelt]

You may target a player to watch, and a PM will be sent listing who targeted that player with an action that night. However, the PM result will not go to you - it will go to another player of your choosing who is not aligned with the Chaos Insurgency. This player will not be informed of whom the watched player was.

Close enough.

No, hers was a 1-shot, it was a Watcher role, and the informed party was chosen by the JoaT.

That's like saying a Town Doctor's the same thing as a Godfather.

[Dream Man]

Considering Scourge's actions in context, further posts seem only to be fixated on self-preservation, and attacking shos - taking advantage of shos's awkward, yet not necessarily scum-motivated position. Capitalizing on the polarities between the shos and the MarioManiac wagon, Scourge builds himself up to vote one or the other should time run out, and is prepared to recover if either flip town.

My vote is warranted, and I posit that if Scourge flips scum, apart from the fact that there would only be one mafia remaining, shos and Mario would be likely town through associative interactions.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon is playing to her scum meta which makes her susp in my eyes. But I don't want to lynch her if we can get her confttownd which might work tonight.

Mario is saying bad things and I don't like it and on top of that he didn't respond to the vote on him like he did in the blitz I played with him so he's probably scu
Pedit bad vote rask are u scum

You played one game with me - one of my worst played games - and you think you know my meta?

Eagle, that's just sad.

Hey bud. Listen. If I thought I KNEW your meta then I would have brought it up as soon as you started omgusing obvtown like crazy.

But no, I'm bringing it up now because I saw you play as scum, this looks like that, and none of your actions thus far have been really pro town.

I'm not even pushing for your lynch.

But keep up this condescending bs up and I will push you so hard for a lynch just based on the fact that you have been helpful to town the way jar jar binks was helpful to the republic: only by accident. "This is sad." I'm sorry that valid points about previous play makes you less than happy.

I wasn't being condescending, it was a valid question.

I claimed my role and I'm trying to sort everyone out. You really don't know my Scum game. You can't possibly sort someone after a single game. No offense, Eagle, no one's that good.

I'll help - go to my profile and ISO my games from when I joined up until April of last year. (Last summer's & autumn's meta doesn't work for analysis.) Then come back and outline my Town v. Scum playstyle.