Mini 1766: SCP Foundation Mafia (GAME OVER)

[shos]

Did I miss a klingon claim?

[shos]

i want to see klingon claim o.o

I am Town.

I have a 2-shot alignment-investigate, however my results go to a random player.

I investigated Alch last night. Lot of good that did.

hmm. I missed this for the bulk-ISO.

Klingon why did you choose to investigate Alchemist, of all people?

[Klingoncelt]

Raskolnikov and Beeboy have proven to be Scum as well, by virtue of their naked votes.

Hello Klingoncelt. I see your points with regard to Elsa and Anna, and your allegations that they are lying.

Would you like to discuss how Raskolnikov and Beeboy are scum? I certainly do not see them both being scum with kelbris, given how they had voted for him yesterday.

Do naked votes necessarily mean that someone is scum?


Looking forward to hearing you from you soon,
Dream Man

I've been getting bad vibes from Raskolnikov all along. His naked vote on me in post 373, and again a mention of me with no mention of a case in post 415 didn't exactly warm me to him.

Beeboy does basically the same thing, naked vote with no case, posts 729 and 733.

That might be so, but could it be possible that their naked votes are representative of their playstyle, rather than of their alignment? They seem to have voted for kelbris, who has flipped scum, in a largely similar manner, and it would not be too detached from reality to imagine them making their votes on a whimsy with the aid of a random number generator.


Suppose town is exclusively wagoning you, then, who do you think is scum?

I do not for one second think that this is a Town-based wagon.

Naked votes are shit, no matter who they go on. If I'm voted for, the person voting better be ready to make a case. So far not a single one has.

That there were votes on Kelbris at some point should be raising some flags. Scum very often will throw a naked vote on a teammate, then move it off after the next vote count.

I still have one investigate. I'll use it tonight. Hopefully some Townie with a protect role will watch over me.

My original plan was to check Alch and Shos and hopefully get innos on them and they could build a Townbloc. That got shot down. Now I dunno if I want to check Shos tonight or not.

[Klingoncelt]

May I ask the rationale for your choosing to investigate Alchemist last night? I hold the view that Alchemist was transparently town in this game, and I wonder why you decided that his alignment was uncertain enough for you to spend an investigate on, instead of a more ambiguous slot, such as AristoCow or Raskol.

i agree that Alchemist was really town, but i also think Klingon is town so that's fine. id like to hear her explanation for her choice, though.

I have trouble reading both Shos and Alch. I think they're the most experienced, if they're both Town, they'd be a perfect base for the Townbloc.
Only Alch is dead now and I'm pretty sure Shos is Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

i want to see klingon claim o.o

I am Town.

I have a 2-shot alignment-investigate, however my results go to a random player.

I investigated Alch last night. Lot of good that did.

if the results went to someone random, they can confirm, right? Is the player the results go to chosen out of player slots or is it from players who are alive at the end of the night?

Scourge is asking all the wrong questions and it's pinging me.

Yeah, they should be able to confirm. I don't know the Order of Operations, Davsto might not have notified the player since Alch was getting NKed.

@Davsto - Did I speak out loud?

[Klingoncelt]

Did I miss a klingon claim?

Yes.

Why do Scums not read?

[Raskolnikov]

UNVOTE:

[Raskolnikov]

I believe her claiming that ability, but I'm also wondering if she could have that ability as scum, perhaps with another extra ability to add power.

[Raskolnikov]

I think the ideal play is to force choose her target tonight?

[A Real Scourge]

scum will just kill that target if they're town. we can't do that.

[Elsa and Anna]

how is claiming a cop check on a dead person make you guys starting townread her?!

~Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

If that role is confirmed to exist I think that makes Klingon near 100% town.

I doubt that 2 scum would have the same mechanics.

UNVOTE:

Anyone?

picking this up

but eww ?

~Elsa

[shos]

Klingon, why townhunt instead of scumhunt? Makes no sense to me for a 2s cop; also cop results on a dead peraon is meeeeeeeh.

Also I kinda have eagle confirming I am town so let go of that.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

i want to see klingon claim o.o

I am Town.

I have a 2-shot alignment-investigate, however my results go to a random player.

I investigated Alch last night. Lot of good that did.

if the results went to someone random, they can confirm, right? Is the player the results go to chosen out of player slots or is it from players who are alive at the end of the night?

Scourge is asking all the wrong questions and it's pinging me.

what are the right questions? what are the wrong questions? i have a pretty good reason for asking the questions i have.

also i think we should back off Kling. at least let her use her other investigative shot?

These are the wrong questions I think. And my reasons maybe trump yours.

Eagle, what's with you and shos and the woofing?

oh, right, Kling is at L-1. illill catch later tonight so ill probably see it but if someone could quote the case thatd be hella.

i agree that Alchemist was really town, but i also think Klingon is town so that's fine. id like to hear her explanation for her choice, though.

preview: shos are you still scum? who are your scumreads right now? very sorry, im not caught up but i wanna participate.

[Dream Man]

If that role is confirmed to exist I think that makes Klingon near 100% town.

I doubt that 2 scum would have the same mechanics.

UNVOTE:

Anyone?

picking this up

but eww ?

~Elsa

I believe Klingoncelt.

Klingoncelt has managed to produce tangible content, that, she would be incapable of generating if she were scum in such a case.

Have you considered looking at other players, such as MarioManiac?

[Dream Man]

I have trouble reading both Shos and Alch. I think they're the most experienced, if they're both Town, they'd be a perfect base for the Townbloc.
Only Alch is dead now and I'm pretty sure Shos is Scum.

There is a flaw in your strategy. Say, given the situation that Shos and Alchemist are indeed both Town. Although they'd be a perfect base for the townbloc, given your perceptions of their experience levels, they'd also be prima facie nightkills -- ruining your strategy entirely. I suggest that you adapt a different strategy, perhaps using the investigate on a more ambiguous player?

[Dream Man]

I do not for one second think that this is a Town-based wagon.

Alright then. Let us assume for a moment that the wagon on yourself is not Town-based. Let us further assume three scum in this game, as what would be average for a thirteen-player game.

This would suggest two remaining scum alive at this point. Do you, then posit, that there is one or two scum on your wagon?

These are the names of the players that have been on your wagon:

Elsa and Anna, shos, Raskolnikov, beeboy

If, two scum, then who are they?
If, one scum, then who is the scum that is off the wagon?


Looking forward to your reply,
Dream Man

[shos]

unvote

Klingon claimed two shot. We should simply lynch her tomorrow instead of today, so no harm may he done.

[Dream Man]

We should simply not lynch her.

[Elsa and Anna]

We should simply not lynch her.

oh?

why you sure she is town?

[Elsa and Anna]

^ ~Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

I can w8 another day. she might give a clue about her scum partner this way.

~Elsa

[Dream Man]

We should simply not lynch her.

oh?

why you sure she is town?

As I've mentioned, I believe that her reaction to all of this is town. She's producing content, which she would have been unable to do, if she were scum. There's also the additional side point that RadiantCowbells raised with regard to her role, but I only consider that to a lesser extent.

Would you consider other players of interest, rather than focusing on only one player, for, what I can gather, was only guilty of rallying players to consolidate on three major wagons less than twenty-four hours before deadline?

[Dream Man]

I can w8 another day. she might give a clue about her scum partner this way.

~Elsa

Does RadiantCowbells have a lead on who else could be scum?

I'd like to draw to his attention three players: Raskol, MarioManiac, and beeboy.

[shos]

VOTE: mari0